The Naked Truth vs. The Clothed Lie (2)

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Nein; and I can assure you that the sampling was indeed "adequate".;)...

I'm going to pour myself a very nice English Ale tonight; I have enough to adequately sample.

With the right beer, ...
What you cannot let go of, you are slave to...

...I cannot let go of Christ Jesus...
 
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Don't forget a slave to the Law too ;)

An SDA from my view is above all a slave to EGW, since both Christ and the Law are seen through the lens of her teaching/prophecy as to be unrecognisable from the true adherence to slavery to either.
 
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Does that mean you're a slave to EGW as well then?
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. ..."

Yet, it seems some will continue to misunderstand the role of the messenger of the LORD, which was to go before His 2nd Advent, even as others did also of the messengers before her in their own times...

...scripture itself declares God would gift the church with prophets/messengers, and the spirit of prophecy which is the testimony of Jesus, and Jesus Himself [the one to whom I cannot let go of] testifies, that He would send such unto His church... those which rejects His messengers, reject Him...

And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. 1 Samuel 8:7

...

As much as the church needed the prophets of Jesus in the days of Paul, Barnabas, Luke, Peter, John, etc [like Agabus [Acts 11:28, 21:10], Phillips 4 daughters [Acts 21:9], the prophets which came from Jerusalem to Antioch [Acts 11:27, 13:1], Judas and Silas [Acts 15:32] etc], and as it was in the days of Moses, which wrote the testimonies to the church in the wilderness then, and died before entering the promised land, and received a special resurrection, and as John the Baptist preached the first Advent, so too we have such a messenger of the Lord, which has written testimonies for the remnant in the wilderness of this world, died before entering the promised land, who will receive a special resurrection, and preached the 2nd Advent of Jesus... [1 Corinthians 12:28, 14:29,32; Ephesians 3:5, 4:11]

...

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Romans 6:16

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6

...therefore, as stated I cannot let go of Christ Jesus... it seems others will not take hold of Him, nor His testimony...

...but rather they would cling to their Bacchus...
 
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An SDA from my view is above all a slave to EGW, since both Christ and the Law are seen through the lens of her teaching/prophecy as to be unrecognisable from the true adherence to slavery to either.

You know, they spout and quote Scripture, yet disregard the admonitions against women having authority over men, and remaining silent in Church with regard to EGW.

You can have your cake and eat it too it seems!:D:D^_^^_^
 
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"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. ..."

Yet, it seems some will continue to misunderstand the role of the messenger of the LORD, which was to go before His 2nd Advent, even as others did also of the messengers before her in their own times...

...scripture itself declares God would gift the church with prophets/messengers, and the spirit of prophecy which is the testimony of Jesus, and Jesus Himself [the one to whom I cannot let go of] testifies, that He would send such unto His church... those which rejects His messengers, reject Him...

And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. 1 Samuel 8:7

...

As much as the church needed the prophets of Jesus in the days of Paul, Barnabas, Luke, Peter, John, etc [like Agabus [Acts 11:28, 21:10], Phillips 4 daughters [Acts 21:9], the prophets which came from Jerusalem to Antioch [Acts 11:27, 13:1], Judas and Silas [Acts 15:32] etc], and as it was in the days of Moses, which wrote the testimonies to the church in the wilderness then, and died before entering the promised land, and received a special resurrection, and as John the Baptist preached the first Advent, so too we have such a messenger of the Lord, which has written testimonies for the remnant in the wilderness of this world, died before entering the promised land, who will receive a special resurrection, and preached the 2nd Advent of Jesus... [1 Corinthians 12:28, 14:29,32; Ephesians 3:5, 4:11]

...

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Romans 6:16

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6

...therefore, as stated I cannot let go of Christ Jesus... it seems others will not take hold of Him, nor His testimony...

...but rather they would cling to their Bacchus...
You should apply what you post to yourself.
 
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An SDA from my view is above all a slave to EGW, since both Christ and the Law are seen through the lens of her teaching/prophecy as to be unrecognisable from the true adherence to slavery to either.

Let me explode your comments regarding EGW. How many times have I quoted EGW in my posts? None! In fact, non-SDAs CF members bring up EGW more than SDAs! You as a Baptist have authors and preachers who write books, and speak in your churches, who you follow. But, they are not Scripture. You cannot say that SDAs follow the traditions of men or women, because we don't. We rebuke man made traditions! Moreover, the fact that you don't have a recognized Prophet in the Baptist denomination is not biblical. Its one of the spiritual gifts in the true Christian church. If SDAs were following only prophets and preachers you could take us apart, but we don't! In fact, SDAs are very independent thinkers. We don't follow celebrity preachers like the Mega Churches do.
 
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An SDA from my view is above all a slave to EGW, since both Christ and the Law are seen through the lens of her teaching/prophecy as to be unrecognisable from the true adherence to slavery to either.

If SDAs are a slave to EGW, then what you would see is, a people who are ignorant regarding the Scriptures! But, what do we see on this forum, SDAs taking apart the traditions of men that non-SDAs post on CF. So then, who are being duped by their leaders? The Evangelicals, Orthodox, and the Catholics! They are the ones who are following traditions of men! SDA think and study the Scriptures, but discard man made traditions.
 
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You know, they spout and quote Scripture, yet disregard the admonitions against women having authority over men, and remaining silent in Church with regard to EGW.

EGW does not have authority over men. A Prophet exhorts and rebukes, but it is not an Apostolic position. The General Conference is the highest authority in the SDA church. EGW has given the SDA church a wealth of inspirational and prophet insight that has guided our church to experience world wide growth.
 
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<snip> You cannot say that SDAs follow the traditions of men or women, because we don't. We rebuke man made traditions!
...And follow those of a woman. Gotcha.:idea:


<snip> If SDAs were following only prophets and preachers you could take us apart, but we don't!

It happens daily here at CF, if you have not seen it, then you are not reading posts.

In fact, SDAs are very independent thinkers. We don't follow celebrity preachers like the Mega Churches do.

Since EGWs passing that is.:)
 
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Originally Posted by MarkRohfrietsch
You know, they spout and quote Scripture, yet disregard the admonitions against women having authority over men, and remaining silent in Church with regard to EGW.

You can have your cake and eat it too it seems!:D:D^_^^_^
:)
Originally Posted by CFTerminator
<snip> You cannot say that SDAs follow the traditions of men or women, because we don't. We rebuke man made traditions!
...And follow those of a woman. Gotcha.:idea:
<snip> If SDAs were following only prophets and preachers you could take us apart, but we don't!
It happens daily here at CF, if you have not seen it, then you are not reading posts.
In fact, SDAs are very independent thinkers. We don't follow celebrity preachers like the Mega Churches do.
Since EGWs passing that is.:)
I think Ellen White and Joseph Smith would have made a cute couple ;) :p

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Does that mean you're a slave to EGW as well then?
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Yet, it seems some will continue to misunderstand the role of the messenger of the LORD, which was to go before His 2nd Advent, even as others did also of the messengers before her in their own times...
<snip>

The question was regarding EGW, aka Ellen White - not "the messenger of the Lord". We already know that equation isn't valid, and a good part of that conclusion was forced by your own contributions.
You didn't answer the question.
 
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Let me explode your comments regarding EGW. How many times have I quoted EGW in my posts? None!

A common symptom among those raised in the SDA church is an inability to discern the difference between 'EGW' and Scripture. You have rattled off Ellenese far more than you realize and in several posts quoted her directly with no means to identify the source.

If SDAs were following only prophets and preachers you could take us apart, but we don't!

Once you contradicted yourself on the latest topic, your argument fell apart.
The uniform response from you has been to ignore this and pretend you didn't read posts you anchored your replies to.
 
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The General Conference is the highest authority in the SDA church.

Let's see you reconcile this claim with the 1957 publication of Questions on Doctrine, a product of the General Conference. It was produced to deceive Walter Martin and Donald Barnhouse prior to the publication of Kingdom of the Cults.
The general disdain this product of the General Conference has among SDA members shows that this was its sole purpose: deception.
Stephen D. Pitcher said:
Ever since the Adventist church published Questions on Doctrine to convince Martin and Barnhouse that it was not a cult, the organization continued publishing materials endorsing traditional Adventism. In other words, QOD did not alter the church's doctrines and teachings.
 
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