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U.S. to Weigh Computer Chip Implant
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By CHRISTOPHER NEWTON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The science of security may soon get under your skin.

A Florida technology company is preparing to seek government approval for a computer ID chip that would be implanted inside the body and could be used to store everything from secret codes to sensitive medical information.

Applied Digital Solutions' new ``VeriChip'' is another sign that Sept. 11 has catapulted the effort to secure America into a realm with uncharted possibilities - and also new fears for privacy.

``The problem is that you always have to think about what the device will be used for tomorrow,'' said Lee Tien, a senior attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a privacy advocacy group.

``It's what we call function creep. At first a device is used for applications we all agree are good but then it slowly is used for more than it was intended,'' he said.

The company also is developing another implant device that would work in conjunction with the VeriChip to allow satellite tracking of an individual's every movement. The tracker is already attracting interest across the globe for tasks like foiling kidnappings, the company says.

Applied Digital, based in Palm Beach, Fla., says it soon will begin the process of getting Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) approval for the VeriChip, and intends to limit its marketing to companies that ensure its human use is voluntary.

``The line in the sand that we draw is that the use of the VeriChip would always be voluntarily,'' said Keith Bolton, chief technology officer and a vice president at Applied Digital. ``We would never provide it to a company that intended to coerce people to use it.''

More than a decade ago, Applied bought a competing company, Destron Fearing, which had been making chips implanted in animals. Those chips were bought mainly by animal owners wanting to provide another way for pound workers to identify a lost pet.

Chips for humans aren't that much different.

But company officials say they were hesitant to market the chips for people because of ethical questions - until the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

``It's a sad time ... when people have to wonder whether it's safe in their own country,'' Bolton said.

The makers of the chip also foresee it being used to help emergency workers, for instance, diagnose a lost Alzheimer's patient or access an unconscious patient's medical history.

Getting the implant would go something like this:

A person or company buys the chip from Applied Digital for about $200 and the company encodes it with the desired information. The person seeking the implant takes the tiny device - about the size of a grain of rice, to their doctor, who can insert it with a large needle device.

The doctor monitors the device for several weeks to make sure it doesn't move and that no infection develops.

The device has no power supply, rather it contains a millimeter-long magnetic coil that is activated when a scanning device is run across the skin above it. A tiny transmitter on the chip sends out the data.

Without a scanner, the chip cannot be read. Applied Digital plans to give away chip readers to hospitals and ambulance companies, in hopes they'll become standard equipment.

The chip has drawn attention from several religious groups.

Theologian and author Terry Cook said he worries the identification chip could be the ``mark of the beast,'' an identifying mark that all people will be forced to wear just before the end times, according to the Bible.

Applied Digital has consulted theologians and appeared on the religious television program the ``700 Club'' to assure viewers the chip didn't fit the biblical description of the mark because it is under the skin and hidden from view.

Even with the privacy and religious concerns, some are eager to use the product.

Jeff Jacobs in Coral Springs, Fla., has contacted the company in hopes of becoming the first person to purchase the chip.

Jacobs suffers from a number of serious allergies and wants to make sure medical personnel can diagnose him.

``They would know who to contact, they would know what medications I'm on, and it's quite a few,'' he said. ``They would know what I'm allergic to, what kind of operations I've had and where there might be problems.''
 
:confused: :rolleyes: Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2002 DENVER POST
"FIRM TO SEEK GOVERNMENT OK FO COMPUTER-CHIP IMPLANT- The article goes into plan for the "VeriChip" and how it contains massive amts. of information about the person into whom it's planned for implant, and how it will solve the problem of lost I.D.'s and theft, etc., and it also briefly dealves into the objections of those with Biblical viewpoints, saying it CAN'T BE THAT MARK, because it goes UNDER the skin! (I got news for them, that's just where the Bible indicates it goes) Also, today's newspaper mention the plans for politicans to use drivers' licences as a bigger form of I.D. because they want to issue it to ILLEGAL (although they don't call them that) MEXICANS, but they want to do this to all of us, insisting at least on Social Security #'s on drivers licences, which is illegal. and at most to put chips and strips in them, making them the precedents to the implanted chips. see www.homestead.com/PROPHECYCENTER/prophecycenter.html and scroll to to the part that lets you click to SEVERAL IMPLANTED CHIPS articles!!!----placesofrefuge
 
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If the chip could be used to track and find a missing/kidnapped child, that would be wonderful!

I have always had a huge fear(not to mention real dreams/nightmares)that my daughters get kidnapped. The chip would be very helpful in that sense. Imagine all the children that could be saved.

However, it does scare me about the prophetic nature of such technology.

Well, perhaps it means we are closer to the Second Coming than some think. Yeah!
 
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No; relax. This isn't the mark of the beast, just incredible advanced technology. The mark is spiritual; those who keep the commandments of God are the ones who will be sealed by the angels, when the plagues arrive. Those who choose to ignore the commandments, and worship he "beast"; which is (I believe) the world, system, and everything in it, will have his mark.
The scripture tells us the mark is IN the hand and IN the forehead; we are told in Dueteronomy 6 that keeping the commandments of God is important; that we shall bind them as a "sign" upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between our eyes. (forehead). Exodus also explains that there are "signs" between those who obey the commandments and God; and of keeping his sabbath.
Hallow my sabbaths; they shall be a "sign" between me and you, that ye may know I am the Lord your God.
Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep; for it is a "sign" between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.
It is a 'sign" between me and the children of Isreal forever; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was made fresh.
 
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You hit the nail on the head Wildfire- and I wrote a long paper for a friend scripturally linking the Sabbath as God's 'sign' and Sunday as the counter part 'mark' of the beast. Look how closely the two definitions are and the scriptures in which they appear - it's all there if you're eyes are open.

If satan decieves the whole world, and the right way is narrow and difficult - how do 2 billion catholics and mainstream christians think they will fit?? If everyone that "Loves the Lord" is supposedly 'saved' that's a pretty outrageous narrow path!

2 John 1:6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
 
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Wildfire,

Have you ever wondered if a prophecy can have both a symbolic (spiritual) fulfillment AND a literal (physical) fulfillment? Are these two things mutually exclusive? Can you prove conclusively from scripture that a prophecy DOES NOT and CAN NOT have a literal, physical fulfillment? If you can't prove that prophecy doesn't have a literal fulfillment I'd advise against encouraging people to relax.
 
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Which day you go to church on will not be the mark of the beast as some would try to deceive you into believing!

GAL 3:10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." 11 Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." (NIV)

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. (NIV)

Romans 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. (NIV)
 
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Keeping the commandments of God and following his law, is more important than anything we can ever achieve on this earth.
The book of Revelation is filled with symbols and mysteries; we are told to use wisdom. I do not believe it was meant to be taken literally.
The "mark" of the beast has always frightened people; there are some who will believe that it is a satellite implant; or your social security number, drivers liscence number, a dollar bill, etc. Yes, these are physical things, but (I believe) that this mark cannot be upheld in a physical way. No I cannot prove that, just like noone can prove that there is a God. We cannot touch or see him, but he is there. And his words are real. We have to take what we have been given by him, and live accordingly, to what is correct in his eyes. So, when I said (relax), I meant, don't be frightened of what man can do; trust God. Focus on what we are told to do; which is keeping the commandments of God.
You have to remember that the beast is described over and over as being worshipped. This is nothing that is being forced. People want to be a part of "the beast"; which is (in my opinion) the world. Jesus tells us not to love the world, or anything in it beause it hated him. Jesus described us as being either children of light or darkness. It is in reference to ones mindset; either you are filled with God, or the cares of this world. Which are you, we have to ask. That is a spiritual question; and we have to choose correctly.
Please, I am not misleading anyone, but rather encouraging them towards God.
 
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The mark has got nothing to do with human inventions.

It is not a mark if a human uses a cyborg hand, not even writing symbols on his hand or head...
(read well what I write next!!!)


The destiny of your soul is not dependant on material, symbols or enviroment; but the inner hearts attitude towards God!!!
Now remember that for the rest of Your life!

You soul will not go to hell when you use modern technology.

You could lose your soul, from the moment you need to swear you don't believe in a God, in Jesus as His ressurected Son, and in a Holy Spirit as Guide...

When you really Love God, and you really really Love God, there's nothing in your surrounding that'll be able to take away your soul from Him!

So your soul (and your Spirit) is safe with Him.
About your body (the flesh) for sure it is the weakest chain of your being. The Devil can't kill you without God allowing it, but he can make your life pretty hard now and then....

When the time is there we'll all know it...
but if you ask my opinion, no...
The Mark still needs to be invented

About the mark; check out the left behind website

or go to http://www.leftbehind.com/
 
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Terri, We are not 'relying' (Gal 3:10) on our commandment keeping to save us. It will never be enough, God's grace has to make up the rest but we are still required to be obedient. The righteous will live by faith . . . James 2:18...and I will show you my faith by my works.

My children have to obey me to avoid my wrath. But no amount of cleaning their rooms and doing dishes EARNS their keep. My sleepless nights and endless dollars are shed on them out of love, not because they did lots of righteous deeds! Our kids are and we are absolutely required to obey rules or we would have anarchy! Obedience earns blessings and disobedience earns curses right - we are not trying to earn salvation because we know we could never to enough.

Furthermore the beast power will be a man that rises up out of Germany - modern day Assyria - the rod of God's anger. Hitler was a forshadowing of the end times driven by satan to attenpt to overtake the world. Hitler persectued the house of Judah it all fit prophecy perfectly yet only as a forrunner. So far Germany holds the bank of the Euro - and money is power. Watch as the EU organizes a common military force and see if it isn't headed up by Germany as well - prophecy says it will!
 
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This can't be the mark, since the mark will not be introduced until after the resurrection of the anitchrist. It is a symbol that the wearer has taken sides with satan, and has rejected christ.

This object is a chip implanted for the purpose of carrying inforamtion, and has nothing to do with religion or faith. A chip may be part of the mark of the beast, but the mark is primarily about choosing to have faith in satan, not about carrying information.
 
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The mark won't be introduced when the beast comes on the scene - but "ENFORCED" The Sabbath's are a "SIGN between Me and My people forever" Thousands have been killed throughout history for their sabbath keeping by none other than the catholic church - the Puritans that came to this country were Sabbath keepers fleeing for their lives! If the Sabbath is a sign - what is sign? On a building it tells you who's inside, McDonalds or Sears. If you keep the Sabbath, calls that a sign that you are of "His people" what does the sign of sunday indicate to God?? That you have followed the authority of the Pope instead of God. The catholic church was quoted as saying, "Nowhere from Genesis to Rev doest he bible say to keep sunday, and the fact that the Protestants took sunday with them proves that we are above the bible" Sunday keeping became law by a vote of the Council of Nicea headed by the Roman emporer Constantine in 325A.D. because of a majority vote!! Since when does a majority vote of man decide God's will?? Since 325 A.D. So do you have God's sign on your forhead or that of the Pope, "The Vicar of Christ" which title has the numeric value of 666 in it's latin form! REV 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a MAN: His number is 666.

Lucifer's sin was rising up to be like God the Most high - The Pope calls himself "Christ in Office" or "on earth" The catholic church has slayed an innumerable unbelieving souls and sabbath keepers - since when did Christ behead unbelievers?? He came her for the unbelievers. Look into this
 
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"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free
and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his
forehead, so that no-one could buy or sell unless he had the mark,
which is the name of the beast or the number of his name." Rev 13:16-17

This makes it clear that it is a psyical mark. In order to buy and sell, not just a spritual one.

there is also another company with same technology
called Digital Angel.

Is this the mark or a prototype of the mark...it may or may not be ..but it clear the technology is present to use it as such.
First the Anti-christ must come on the world scene and form his one world government before this can happen.
 
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Hi Ed; I noticed that the King James version says that he "causeth" all, (not forces) those to "recieve" his mark; to give life unto the "image" of the beast. And those who would not worship the image, or (be part of the beast) should be killed; it sounds like a strong, violent loyalty; we would have to break down the description of the beast in order to understand just where this worship is being directed towards. (note how many times the word worship is written in relation to the beast)
 
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