Strike against Syria losing ground

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91% of Americans don't approve striking Syria. The U.S. Congress doesn't approve it. The British Parliament doesn't approve it. And Russia announced it is sending an anti-submarine warship and a missile cruiser into the Mediteranean.
I seriously don't see a strike against Syria happening as early as today.

Waiting game: UK political backlash delays key vote on Syria strike - World News

How do you see this playing out?
 

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President Obama is a complete schizophrenic when it comes to foreign policy! I believe the best thing to do is to take out all of the syrian airbases, then have Israel, the US and it's allies completely ready to defend against the Syrian repercussians. Also, what only certain outlets are talking about is the Iranian factor. If we bomb Syria, we meaning our allies, need to be ready to take out Iran which shoul have been done a long time ago. It's also very funny how all the rhetoric that has been coming out of DC is extrmely close to what the Bush administration did and the got chastised and turned into evil warmongers, but Obama is doing the same thing ans the media is behind him 100%. It's really quite sad. The big difference is, Bush actually confered with congress and got support for his actions. As usual, Obama is doing what he wants, not what the rest of our country wants. If he half-heartedly lobs a few missles at Damascus, without any intention of actually turning the tables on Assad, we are in BIG trouble!
 
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America should leave it alone. We have our own problems.. Like this one thing that everyone seems to forget about.... The 16 trillion dollar debt... Which for some reason our government keeps putting off. We don't need another war.
 
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91% of Americans don't approve striking Syria. The U.S. Congress doesn't approve it. The British Parliament doesn't approve it. And Russia announced it is sending an anti-submarine warship and a missile cruiser into the Mediteranean.
I seriously don't see a strike against Syria happening as early as today.

Waiting game: UK political backlash delays key vote on Syria strike - World News

How do you see this playing out?

Assad crossed a line when he used chemical weopans. If not us then who can give him a bloody nose for this. I do not support any kind of invasion but surgical strikes against chemical weopans stocks etc seem fair enough.
 
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...How do you see this playing out?...

Are the UN's hands tied, meaning they can't do anything about it ?

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Assad crossed a line when he used chemical weopans. If not us then who can give him a bloody nose for this. I do not support any kind of invasion but surgical strikes against chemical weopans stocks etc seem fair enough.

Somebody crossed a line if those chemical weapons were used. The U.N. inspectors do have some evidence that they were used but they still don't have any evidence about who used them.

The US has evidence that makes them think Assad used them. But on youtube, there are videos of the rebels using them.
I don't know that much about what's happening but I do know that a "surgical" strike is an act of war. I also know that Congress said that unless the UN finds conclusive evidence and approves a strike, then America shouldn't risk starting a war with a country that hasn't attacked the US.

Anyway, dad thinks this isn't about Syria. He says it's about invading Syria to shut down an oil pipeline that was built for Iran to help Iran's economy. He said that the virus we sent to the Iranian computers and all the sanctions weren't enough to shut down Iran so this is like the next step or something.

So Russia and the US have interests in Syria.
But the really epic question is who will be in power in Syria when Assad's gone? Probably all the terrorists and Al-queda. I think everybody saw what happened in Iraq.
Tbh, I think it's a huge no win/no win.

Are the UN's hands tied, meaning they can't do anything about it ?

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Won't do anything about it. The UN won't support attacks on another country unless there's evidence that the government is doing something seriously illegal against it's own people.
But the UN has to do that with a vote and Russia and China probably won't vote for a strike.

Obama still wants to do a "surgical" strike but if he does, he will be doing it without International support and without Congressional support. And without the support of 91% of Americans.

Members of Congress said yesterday that if he strikes without any approval, they will consider it a violation of the Constitution and the terms of Obama's Presidency.

Imo, talks are what are needed, not more killing. War just makes people more angry. Talks are the only way to make anything better.
Assad was willing to talk but the rebels refused to go to the peace talks.
 
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Obama is going to Congress first, a good decision, IMO. I think we should back out of the Middle East totally and let them deal with their own problems. We are broke and have so many problems. Sure, Arabs seem to only understand strength so they will interpret this as weakness. So what?

I suspected that if Obama intervened that he was on the side of Islamist organizations and Sharia Law. So I'm still cautiously optimistic that this is over because I don't think Congress will vote for it. But I emphasize "cautiously optimistic".

And the people of the U.S. need to pay attention and realize that if they don't get educated before elections and start to take an interest in this culture and prevent it from going completely down the drain, we could end up with some despot in power and victims of chemical weapons ourselves oneday.
 
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Obama knows it was al-Nusra terrorist who committed the abhorrent acts that killed all those children and adults. Therefore, write to your political representatives and tell them,



NO MORE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST!

Perhaps it's all a plan to get our military near Iran and help Israel.
 
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What weapon stocks ? One this to know for a FACT is if he has them. The Iraq debacle was there were no stocks. No inspector on the ground could find them, even when directed by those who 'knew' where they were. No spy plane could detect any evidence. No fancy spy satellite confirmed.

Yet we get a dodgy dossier based on NON fact. Seems the same again. This is why the British said no.

Our PM (Cameron) was all for it, but was defeated in the main by Labour's opposition. Blair had no choice other than to go with Bush, given the dirt that was about to be spilled through Operation Ore's findings.
 
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There will be a forum for this at the G20 summit in a few days but Obama will be at the back of the class this year. The other nations are also seeing this as another Iraq and Russia and China are strictly opposed to intervention.

What worries me is that if the rebels win then the next government could be run by the Muslim Brotherhood. That would not be good for the Christians in Syria.
At least with the 2012 Constitution, the Christians still have freedom of religion. But that would probably be written out or ignored by Muslim extremists.
Freedom of religion in Syria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Syria Could Become Another Iraq on Religious Freedom, Says Retired Army Lt. Col.

If would be really sad if all the Christians are run out of Syria like they were after the war in Iraq.
 
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Exactly!

While all the western media (propaganda) seeks only to vilify Assad's regime, what they are not telling you is that the US are actually trying to overthrow him and allow the Muslim Brotherhood to take over.
The 'rebels' are killing Christians, burning Churches and eating, yes eating people!
 
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Obama knows it was al-Nusra terrorist who committed the abhorrent acts that killed all those children and adults. Therefore, write to your political representatives and tell them,



NO MORE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST!


Jesus is not a liberal. He is against abortion and homosexuality. He believes that a man must work for a living and be the head of the family. He believes people should marry (male and female) and stay together through thick and through thin. He believes we should manage our money well and help the poor and the widow. (not necessarily through taxes. He loves a cheerful giver). He believes we should pay our taxes (render unto Caesar...) and tithe of our income (if possible) (and to God the things that are God's). He tells us all of the time in His Word to obey Him, obey Him, obey Him. He tells us to be holy and to witness to the unbeliever. The liberals of today act nothing like Jesus.

Sorry to get off of topic. I just had to say that.
 
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