Pope Francis to consecrate the world to Immaculate Heart of Mary

Now that's a great idea.

WarriorAngel said:

Now that's a great idea.

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I'd say!

And they say that Francis was liberal....

Alonso_Castillo said:

And they say that Francis was liberal....

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I think a devout Catholic who is on fire for God is outside the "liberal/conservative" spectrum

at some point, you just belong entirely to God and all that worldly stuff just seems unimportant

WarriorAngel said:

Now that's a great idea.

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Yes......it is an excellent idea!!!!

During his near death experience Mr. Christian Andreason got the distinct impression that The Holy Ghost/The Holy Spirit was God the Mother!

Mary/Myriam the mother of Messiah Jesus/ Yeshua was a symbol of the Holy Sprit/ Holy Ghost so dedicating the world to her means an outpouring of the Holy Spirit exactly as predicted in the Jewish Bible.

The time is coming when so much of the Holy Spirit will be poured.....so much of the heart of God the Mother in the earth....that lions will eat straw like an ox and the nations will no longer make war!!!!


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I have nominated Dr. Chaim Tejman for the one million dollar origin of life prize.

no, Mary is not a symbol of the Holy Ghost

Mary is a sign of Gods love for mankind,
the power of His grace

Mary shows us that God has the power to save humans

Rhamiel said:

no, Mary is not a symbol of the Holy Ghost

Mary is a sign of Gods love for mankind,
the power of His grace

Mary shows us that God has the power to save humans

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My apologies if I am wrong but ever since I read some articles on String Theory I have wondered if perhaps Super Strings might be the primary component of God the Father and Super Waves and/or Super Energetic Matter as Dr. Chaim Tejman might term it, could perhaps be the primary component of The Holy Ghost/The Holy Spirit??????!!!!!

Just a theory but one that does seem to make for an interesting discussion with some of our philosophically inclined atheist friends??!!!

I am sorry if I seemed too harsh and judgmental

it is just... any time someone equates the Virgin Mary to the Trinity, Catholics tend to shut down the conversation quickly, because we do not want people to accuse us of worshiping Mary

DennisTate said:

My apologies if I am wrong but ever since I read some articles on String Theory I have wondered if perhaps Super Strings might be the primary component of God the Father and Super Waves and/or Super Energetic Matter as Dr. Chaim Tejman might term it, could perhaps be the primary component of The Holy Ghost/The Holy Spirit??????!!!!!

Just a theory but one that does seem to make for an interesting discussion with some of our philosophically inclined atheist friends??!!!

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Dennis, I think that I also have made many especulations regarding God and his church. But, I submit myself to the teachings of the church. the Teachings of the Church are submited to the Public Revelation which is in the Sacred Scripture, and sometimes private revelations are accepted when they are compliant with Public Revelation. Making especulative approaches of theology may lead to dangerous paths of heresy and even apostasy. Take Care.

DennisTate said:

My apologies if I am wrong but ever since I read some articles on String Theory I have wondered if perhaps Super Strings might be the primary component of God the Father and Super Waves and/or Super Energetic Matter as Dr. Chaim Tejman might term it, could perhaps be the primary component of The Holy Ghost/The Holy Spirit??????!!!!!

Just a theory but one that does seem to make for an interesting discussion with some of our philosophically inclined atheist friends??!!!

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The theory is flawed, as it makes God have limits. He cannot have components or being physically or metaphysically tied to anything.

Rhamiel said:

I think a devout Catholic who is on fire for God is outside the "liberal/conservative" spectrum

at some point, you just belong entirely to God and all that worldly stuff just seems unimportant

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I think You are right, because the Social Docrine of the Church may seem too líberal for conservatives, while the moral teaching of the church may seem too conservative to liberals.

Alonso_Castillo said:

I think You are right, because the Social Docrine of the Church may seem too líberal for conservatives, while the moral teaching of the church may seem too conservative to liberals.

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Exactly!

Alonso_Castillo said:

I think You are right, because the Social Docrine of the Church may seem too líberal for conservatives, while the moral teaching of the church may seem too conservative to liberals.

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that is very true

but it also goes deeper then that

both Liberal and Conservative are man made philosophies, both of them are focused on humanity, both are focused on self
while Christianity is focused on God

Rhamiel said:

that is very true

but it also goes deeper then that

both Liberal and Conservative are man made philosophies, both of them are focused on humanity, both are focused on self
while Christianity is focused on God

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You are right.

Chany said:

The theory is flawed, as it makes God have limits. He cannot have components or being physically or metaphysically tied to anything.

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Ahem. There is this little thing called the Incarnation that not a little fur flew over. That certainly ties God the Son to His humanity.

As to the rest...haven't seen anything like that in Scripture or Tradition, so...no lo creo.

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Needing_Grace said:

Ahem. There is this little thing called the Incarnation that not a little fur flew over. That certainly ties God the Son to His humanity.

As to the rest...haven't seen anything like that in Scripture or Tradition, so...no lo creo.

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Permanently tied. Sorry. God the Son would still exist as God the Son even if He never became full man.

He (along with all the other bishops) should be consecrating 'Russia' to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. She was specific at Fatima. It'd be wise to obey her instructions and finally divulge the Third Secret of Fatima. The world=/=Russia. Just saying. JPII did this before --- that is, claiming to consecrate 'the whole world' ,etc. --- it didn't work then; as he didn't follow our Lady's instructions.

Chany said:

Permanently tied. Sorry. God the Son would still exist as God the Son even if He never became full man.

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No denying that God the Son has always been God the Son, consubstantial with the Father, etc. However, since the Incarnation, Christ is indeed eternally joined to His humanity. God and man, Jesus. It's only in that way that He can be present to us in the Sacrament of the Altar.

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Needing_Grace said:

No denying that God the Son has always been God the Son, consubstantial with the Father, etc. However, since the Incarnation, Christ is indeed eternally joined to His humanity. God and man, Jesus. It's only in that way that He can be present to us in the Sacrament of the Altar.

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The joining is not eternal in the same way God is eternal. Eternity goes both in the future and in the past. Since man has a point of creation, he is not eternal. There must have been a time when God the Son was not tied to a human form. I prefer the term everlasting for both the Incarnation and the life after death saved humans get to enjoy. It is infinite in the future, but it is not in the past. Jesus is also fully man, whose body changed when He was resurrected, much like ours will.

Also, like our everlasting life in heaven, it is not a necessity of our nature. On a technical level, we can have a set number of years in heaven and then cease to exist. This won't happen, of course, but it is possible. It the same for the Incarnation. It is possible to seperate, but it is not going to happen.