Antoinette Tuff Shows Us the Answer to School Violence

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Bit of a cheap shot at the NRA, Eh?

That was punny!



Cheap shot? Of course, remember for many people their agenda is more important than facts. The NRA has nothing to do with the story at all.

The woman in the story deserves heaps of praise for how well she handled the situation with the mentally ill young man. She probably saved lives (of that there is little doubt).

Sadly that wasn't enough for the OP, she needed somehow to link the story to the NRA in a negative way.
 
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The article I posted was very similar to my statement.

I thank God every day, living here in the depraved wilderness of "the Bible Belt," that my children are no longer in school and I don't have to worry about teachers and even parent volunteers turning their schools into armories.

You may think I overreact, but I am getting more and more concerned about living in a place where, increasingly, lunatics are running the asylum.

One of my own children was in a situation where a drug dealer crashed a party (he was home from college on break) and put a gun to his friend's head (because his friend, who'd been drinking, goaded the drug dealer--a former high school classmate).

No one had a gun except the drug dealer--but like Ms. Tuff, my son was armed with common sense and good communication skills, and managed to get the dealer to leave peaceably.

Yeah--I think he has more courage than most NRA members, too.
 
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The article I posted was very similar to my statement.

I thank God every day, living here in the depraved wilderness of "the Bible Belt," that my children are no longer in school and I don't have to worry about teachers and even parent volunteers turning their schools into armories.

You may think I overreact, but I am getting more and more concerned about living in a place where, increasingly, lunatics are running the asylum.

One of my own children was in a situation where a drug dealer crashed a party (he was home from college on break) and put a gun to his friend's head (because his friend, who'd been drinking, goaded the drug dealer--a former high school classmate).

No one had a gun except the drug dealer--but like Ms. Tuff, my son was armed with common sense and good communication skills, and managed to get the dealer to leave peaceably.

Yeah--I think he has more courage than most NRA members, too.


Are you really that blinded and motivated by whatever anti NRA or anti gun agenda you have that you can't simply praise this woman for such an amazing act of humanity and leave it at that?
 
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The article I posted was very similar to my statement.

I thank God every day, living here in the depraved wilderness of "the Bible Belt," that my children are no longer in school and I don't have to worry about teachers and even parent volunteers turning their schools into armories.

You may think I overreact, but I am getting more and more concerned about living in a place where, increasingly, lunatics are running the asylum.

One of my own children was in a situation where a drug dealer crashed a party (he was home from college on break) and put a gun to his friend's head (because his friend, who'd been drinking, goaded the drug dealer--a former high school classmate).

No one had a gun except the drug dealer--but like Ms. Tuff, my son was armed with common sense and good communication skills, and managed to get the dealer to leave peaceably.

Yeah--I think he has more courage than most NRA members, too.

What's funny is the picture you have in the signature of your posts about not judging, because it doesn't really seem to represent your actions.

You should get out and explore the world, you seem to lack critical perspective. When I went to school in Philly, a place with very strict gun laws, almost everyone on campus was held up at gun point one time or another.

Interesting, when gun control debates come up, and one side swears if gun laws around the US were stricter, there would be almost no violence. But when you mention that it so happens, where gun control laws are strictest, in inner-cities like DC, Chicago, Philly, there is the most gun violence. I don't know if gun control advocates either ignore this argument because of racial sentiment (after all, it was the white liberals who stuck the black community in ghettos away from them), or if they ignore it because it just hurts their argument, something we all do.
 
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Interesting to note that Fantine is Roman Catholic and railing against NRA members (when, again, it has nothing to do with their topic).... I just wonder what her feelings are about the Pope being guarded by armed men with *guns*, including snipers?

Is guarding the Pope with men with guns OK, but guarding our children with guns not?
 
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Interesting to note that Fantine is Roman Catholic and railing against NRA members (when, again, it has nothing to do with their topic).... I just wonder what her feelings are about the Pope being guarded by armed men with *guns*, including snipers?

Is guarding the Pope with men with guns OK, but guarding our children with guns not?


The Pope does not have guards with him every moment.

But the Swiss Guard are professional soldiers, not civilians. If you lived in the Vatican, and there was a real danger that someone might try and grab you at a public event, or assassinate you, they would probably assign you a guard too.

Comparing soldiers in the army to civilians as far as their requirement to be armed is not really all that sensible.
 
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The Pope does not have guards with him every moment.

But the Swiss Guard are professional soldiers, not civilians. If you lived in the Vatican, and there was a real danger that someone might try and grab you at a public event, or assassinate you, they would probably assign you a guard too.

Comparing soldiers in the army to civilians as far as their requirement to be armed is not really all that sensible.

So you'd be fine with army trained armed guards at our schools then?
 
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I am happy that this situation worked out well. However, I have experience with enough confrontations where potential shooters couldn't be talked down; some of them were on who knows what drug, and some of them were just simply over the edge. Talking should certainly be tried, but it isn't going to work in every case.

We should ban young men. Period. Then we don't need to ban guns.

<tongue in cheek>

No, we should ban middle-aged women from teaching school. If we had male teachers, they would know that little boys need to have ways to work off their rambunctiousness and aggression before they can sit still in a classroom. They're not like little girls, who can sit nicely and listen for hours, who work together in groups to complete a project. Girls are socially-driven beings, whereas boys are competitive and independant; and yet, with the feminization of the school system, female teachers expect boys to act like girls....and when they don't, the teachers can't handle them, and their solution is to dope the boys up on Ritalin to the point where they're stupid and pliable.

I thank God every day, living here in the depraved wilderness of "the Bible Belt,"

What is depraved about it?

I am getting more and more concerned about living in a place where, increasingly, lunatics are running the asylum.

If that's your worry, as long as you stay out of the Northeast, California, Chicago, and Minneapolis, you should be all right.

One of my own children was in a situation where a drug dealer crashed a party (he was home from college on break) and put a gun to his friend's head (because his friend, who'd been drinking, goaded the drug dealer--a former high school classmate).

Well, again, I am happy that the situation turned out well. My take on it as a whole, however, is:

A) Those kinds of parties are good places to avoid.

B) Staying sober is a good practice. If the friend had been sober, he'd have known that goading a drug dealer is not a terribly smart move.
 
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