Evolution is a Religion: Reloaded

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And I would not be far fetched in saying that I doubt that Ray Comfort believed liars go to hell, at least not 100% of them.



Ray Comfort probably didn't believe that liars go to hell, but I may be wrong. Feel free to show his writings to the contrary.

He believes anyone living in continual sin is going to hell, be it homosexuality or lying. So do I. I apologize that you have misunderstood. I have a few of His books, I will have to look it up but he publically professes to believe in false conversion, something unique only to lordship salvationists.
 
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He believes anyone living in continual sin is going to hell, be it homosexuality or lying. So do I. I apologize that you have misunderstood. I have a few of His books, I will have to look it up but he publically professes to believe in false conversion, something unique only to lordship salvationists.

Apparently he doesn't know that himself. Perhaps you should tell him.

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Apparently he doesn't know that himself. Perhaps you should tell him.

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an assumption is being made that the sign is decietful and thus lying. That sign really is in fact a lie detector, be it not an electronic one, but a lie detector in a primitive form. So you would be wrong about your assumptions.

I am not saying that you are lying, as that would be the same error. I would rather say that you misunderstood a creationist and perhaps accused him of lying about a lie detector, that does in fact detect lies (just not electronically).

You would have to believe that all lie detectors are of an electronic polygraph type, and this would be wrong. Not to mention the several lie detectors that were used before the polygraph.

early electronic type:In 1921 Larson criticized Marston's intermittent blood pressure method because emotional changes were so brief they could be lost. To adjust for this he modified the Erlanger sphymograph to give a continuous blood pressure and pulse curve and used it to study 4,000 criminals

word counting as a lie detection:

James Pennebaker uses the method of Linguistic Inquiry and Word Count (LIWC), published by Lawrence Erlbaum, to conduct an analysis of written content. He claims it has accuracy in predicting lying. Pennebaker cites his method as "significantly more effective than human judges in correctly identifying deceptive or truthful writing samples"; there is a 67% accuracy rate with his method, while trained people have 52% accuracy. His studies have identified that deception carries three primary written markers. The first is fewer first-person pronouns. Those lying "avoid statements of ownership, distance themselves from their stories and avoid taking responsibility for their behavior" while also using more negative emotion words such as "hate, worthless and sad." Second, they use "few exclusionary words such as except, but or nor" when "distinguish[ing] what they did from what they did not do."

above, from wikipedia on lie detection
 
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I think it's just a magnet. It goes to 'No' regardless of what you do. But the magnet is under 'No'.

Stop me if I'm wrong, but...

EDIT: Yeah, it's just a magnet. Well, two magnets, one with opposite polarity under yes, so it repels, and one under No that attracts.

I wonder what Ray would have done if somebody said 'No'? In fact, I'd bet a dollar that actually happened, and he just didn't put it in.
 
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Ray Comfort probably didn't believe that liars go to hell, but I may be wrong. Feel free to show his writings to the contrary.

"Have you ever told a lie? Then you are a liar. How many lies do you have to tell to be a liar? Just one. The Bible warns that all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire. You may not think deceitfulness is a serious sin. God does!"

-Ray comfort, Author: Ray Comfort of Living Waters Publications. From Are you Good Enough to go to Heaven?.

Text copyright © 2001, Living Waters Publications, All Rights Reserved - except as noted on attached “Usage and Copyright” page.
 
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"Have you ever told a lie? Then you are a liar. How many lies do you have to tell to be a liar? Just one. The Bible warns that all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire. You may not think deceitfulness is a serious sin. God does!"

-Ray comfort, Author: Ray Comfort of Living Waters Publications. From Are you Good Enough to go to Heaven?.

Text copyright © 2001, Living Waters Publications, All Rights Reserved - except as noted on attached “Usage and Copyright” page.

Hypocrisy it is then.

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Have you ever wet the bed? Then you're a bed wetter.

FOR ONE SIN WE DIE

the Bible states that in james 2:10

10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.”[c] Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.


so in the scriptures it confirms what Ray is trying to illustrate. Also the ten commandments prove this.
 
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there are no evidence of stars being born,

got a picture of the exact moment of birth?

So you don't have any rebuttal against current theories - gotcha.

Please drop the nonsense you peddle about 'Stellar evolution' and 'Chemical evolution' being wrong. They are not similar processes to the evolution of life except for you sticking 'evolution' on the end.


What do you mean there's no evidence of stars being born? Google 'stars being born' - I dare you.
 
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Have you ever baited crabs? Then your a Master....... You get the point. ?

actually this one is not correct, baiting crabs could be considered a good thing. We are talking about negative character traits that God Has forbidden. Sin is not bad because it's forbidden, it's forbidden BECAUSE it's bad (for you).
 
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I see no errors in the video, I have heard it many times. (be out of town till late tomorrow- ttyl)

You do realize that the banana he is holding is an entirely human invention?

The God-given banana looks like this:
wild_banana.jpg


Question: how much of what the idiot in the video says applies to the God-given banana according to you? Because as far as I can see, none of it does.


But now my serious question. You actually take that video seriously?
 
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You do realize that the banana he is holding is an entirely human invention?

Yes, and God gave us scientists to do this-and-that with His creation; of which He gets the credit.

And until you realize this, your arcing and sparking and calling people idiots are nothing more than hot air.

You don't understand a thing, do you?

At least I admit my shortcomings.
 
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Yes, and God gave us scientists to do this-and-that with His creation; of which He gets the credit.
And if that was what the idiot in the video meant, your rant below would have some value. Given that the idiot in the video did not mean that, you rant below is just more disengenuousness from your side.

But thanks for playing anyway. Feel free to try again when you can come up with honest answers.

And until you realize this, your arcing and sparking and calling people idiots are nothing more than hot air.

You don't understand a thing, do you?

At least I admit my shortcomings.
 
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I see no errors in the video, I have heard it many times. (be out of town till late tomorrow- ttyl)

I dunno, given how much other species of apes like bananas, I'd have thought it wouldn't be your go to fruit to try to insult evolution.
 
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I see no errors in the video, I have heard it many times. (be out of town till late tomorrow- ttyl)

For starters, it's not the atheists' nightmare.

He says there are 3 grooves (index finger) and 2 grooves (thumb) and "the banana and the hand are perfectly made one for the other". He ignores the 6th groove, when the tips of the finger and thumb are pressed together.

The banana doesn't have the non-slip surface, the hand "has" it.

I guess you could technically say, about most of it, he didn't lie. He never said "This banana, still in its original form, was created by God" and went on with his shtick... but he eluded and implied that.

So, not error-free.


It's also interesting to note that he kinda conceded that argument in 2006 and lied saying, "I put it into a booklet form ("The Atheist Test") and sold over a million copies. Then Kirk Cameron and I put it into our TV program. However, atheists removed the coke can, and sent the clip all over the Internet, saying "Ray Comfort believes that the banana is proof of God's existence." They really made a monkey out of me. I became the laughingstock of atheists all over the atheist world. It was very humbling." There is no such video.
 
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And if that was what the idiot in the video meant, your rant below would have some value.
And obviously you're not the idiot sitting next to him, or you would have thought to ask that, wouldn't you? :doh:
Given that the idiot in the video did not mean that, you rant below is just more disengenuousness from your side.
Somehow I don't picture you as a Miss Cleo.

Perhaps you should use your great esp skills at your local law enforcement department?

Just look at a photograph and tell the detectives what that person is thinking.

Better yet, you'd make a good lawyer.
 
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