the woman in the ephah ...

ancientsoul said:

... and the talent of lead ...

Zechariah 5:5 ... Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and seeth what is this that goeth forth.

Ezekiel 8:5 ... on the judgement of Israel ... Thus saith the Lord God; An evil, an only evil, behold is to come. ... a calamity ... the day of Jacob's trouble ...

Zechariah 1:9 ... the people are being urged to build the temple ... Ye looked for much, and lo, it came to little; and when ye brought it home, I did blow upon it. Why? saith the Lord of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house. ... or blew it away ... unfinished ...

Zechariah 5:6 ... And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

Hosea 1:7 ... to do with Hosea'a unfaithful wife ... But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the Lord their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, not by horsemen. ... not by an army ... He, Himself will save them ...

Leviticus 19:36 ... Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt.

Amos 8:5 ... the imminent judgement ... Saying, When will the new moon, be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth the wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and the falsifying the balances by deceit?

Zechariah 5:7... And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. ... talent of war ...

Jeremiah 51:25 ... Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain. ... much military power ... will be made weak ...

Matthew 21:21 ... Jesus and the cursing of the fig tree ... Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily, I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. ... into the people ...

Psalm 118:22 ... thankful for the Lord's salvation ... The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. This is the Lord's doing; it is marvelous in our eyes. ... capstone ... still looking for info on capstone ...

Ezekiel 3:11,13 ... on Ezekiel's calling ... And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord God; whether they will hear, or they will forbear. ... I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing.

Zechariah 5:8 ... And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

Hosea 12:7 ... God rebuking Ephraim' sins ... He is a merchant, the balances of deceit are in his hand: he loveth to oppress. ... weight of war ...

Micah 6:11 ... requirements of the Lord ... Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of decetful weights? ... verse 10 reads that scant measure is abominable ...

Zechariah 5:9 ... Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they have wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. ... interestingly, a stork in our culture represents one bring a baby ... pregnant ... still looking for info on a stork's wings ...

Ezra 3:10 ... the beginning of the rebuilding of the temple ... And when the builders laid the foundation of the temple of the Lord, they set the priests in their apparel with trumpets, and the Levites the sons of Asaph with symbols, to praise the Lord, after the ordinance of David king of Israel. ... they were assigned ... law ... at first these Levites were the backbone of the temple ... later they shared these services with the sons of Korah ...

Ezra 6:15 ... temple finished ... And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king. ... Darius allowed the Jews to rebuild ...

Zechariah 2:9,11 ... the man with the measuring line ... For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me. ... And many nations shall be joined unto the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.

Zechariah 6:15 ... Joshua is a symbol of the priest-king ... And they that are farr off shall come and build in the temple of the Lord, and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God.

Isaiah 43:16 ... the Lord is the only Redeemer ... Thus saith the Lord, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters;

Zechariah 2:8 ... the man and measuring line ... For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. ... after the revealing of the power of God ... robbed ...

Leviticus 11:13,19 ... clean and unclean meats ... And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the osifrage, and the ospray, ... vultures ... And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. ...

Psalm 104:17 ... God preserves nature ... where the birds make their nests: as for the stork, the fir trees are her house. ... dirty bird ...

Jeremiah 8:7 ... Jeremiah is mourning the desperate state of the Jews ... Yea, the stork in heaven knoweth her appointed time; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgement of the Lord. ...

Zechariah 5:10 ... Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Wither do these bear the ephah?

Haggai 2:3 ... the glory of the new temple ... Who is left among you that saw thos house in her first glory? and how do you see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?

2 Chronicles 16:9 ... David's psalm of thanksgiving ... Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of his wonderous works. ...

Proverbs 15:3 ... The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. ...

Zechariah 3:9 ... Joshua is vindicated ... For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iiquity of that land in one day.

Revelation 5:6 ... the Lion and the Lamb ... And I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Zechariah 5:11 And he said unto me, To build it a house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her base. Shinar, a plain in Bab ...

Zechariah 5:3 ... the flying roll ... Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cutt off as on that side according to it.

Revelation 11:14 ... the two witnesses ... The second woe is past; and behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

wasn't really sure what to do with my time for the Lord this morning ... much clearer today ... landed here ... and learned much ... never been able to understand much of those scriptures ... can safely say i know and understand a whole lot more than i did ... and can safely say i'm equally sure i can say i most likely have more to learn on it ... these are the scriptures i know and believe pertain ... now looking for ones that might pertain ... just thought i understood (saw) a few things in here that i would like to see more ( now i'm looking to hear) ... and to know if i am in the ballpark, so to speak ...

Hosea 14:8 ... Israel is entreated to return to the Lord. ... Ephraim shall say, What have I any more to do with idols? I have heard him, and observed him: I am like a green fir tree. From me is thy fruit found. ... a green tree ... ever bearing needles ... always alive ... doesn't drop it's needles ... never a baren tree ...

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ancientsoul said:

ty for your post ... will for sure consider and factor this ... i'm not of the mindset that everything must do with Rome

.. i see 2 women in this set of scriptures ...

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Enoch 15:
The Creation of Unclean Spirits
8"And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling.

9Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called.

10As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.

11And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. 12And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them."
16 From the days of the slaughter and destruction and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth, shall destroy without incurring judgement— thus shall they destroy until the day of the consummation, the great judgement in which the age shall be consummated, over the Watchers and the godless, yea, shall be wholly consummated.Enoch chapter 19 http://summascriptura.com/html/Enoch_1_RHC.htm#15

19 And Uriel said to me: "Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods, here shall they stand, till the day of the great judgement in which they shall be judged till they are made an end of. 2And the women also of the angels who went astray shall become sirens."
3And I, Enoch, alone saw the vision, the ends of all things: and no man shall see as I have seen.

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ancientsoul said:

ty ... interesting ... i was 'seeing' a stork as one who was a dirty bird ... but never considered there was one that devoured serpents ... how cool to know that ...

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ancientsoul said:

okay ... wow ... that was a bunch of new info for me ... chapter 15? ... i'm left wondering what i missed there ... so, now, i'm wondering, also how the strongs definitions work with that ... not saying they don't ... just haven't looked for myself ... but will i welcome the opportunity to examine new things ... you say the fallen angels and daughters of Adam ... are you referencing Cain ... and his descendants ... of the Devil ...

i'd like to know more about Shinar ...

and interesting ... from stork to woman to mermaid ... what a concept ... sure can see where Greek 'mythology' comes into play through scripture ... i mean i get the concept ... just have to grasp where i am with that ... but cool ... ty ...

so do i understand correctly from your post watchers are angels? therefore there would be good watchers and bad watchers?


fun stuff

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ancientsoul said:

okay, it will take me a spell to work through the first paragraph ...

but i see connections to things i believe to be true in your post so want to spend some time on it ... and will ... cool ...

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ancientsoul said:

just amazing ... it fits with everything i understand well ... will look more carefully, but i understand all what you said ... and how it applies ... i did read about the basket and so i totlaly could see what you said ...

well, the angel part interests me, as well, i believe this may possibly be a beginning of a journey understanding Enoch ... maybe ... i have those books ... but haven't really went there, yet ... other than to scope it out when i got it ...

i understand, i think, that Greek mythology would have to apply in scripture, to an extent, because it was during the same time ... again, i think ... often if i understand why someone does something or why a term is used ... i can better understand context ... i appreciate your concern here ... i felt to tread there lightly ... i did see much that does fit ... in learning the concept of the stork and such ... hmmm ... maybe even where something branched?

hmmm ... and while she was squashed down in that little tiny tub ... wouldn't anything in the tub be forced out ... being displaced to make room for her ... ... like if there was water or anything in the tub with her?

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