Is the Bible 100% scientifically correct?

Pink Spider said:

Yes it's familiar to me - so what

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I only bring it up because no one has ever been able to show how life came from non-life yet, and evolution falls flat without it.

Pink Spider said:

Aha - 'the last line of defense'...

Well the chances of such a process happening
are in all likelihood very slim, but not nil.

What if the chances are 1:100,000,000,000,000 for
example?

We can not conduct that many experiments - but
the universe is big enough and contains (according
to the astrophysicists) more than enough planets
with conditions that could spark the evolution of
life.

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We're not just talking about the astronomical odds against it, we don't even have ANY explanation as to how it could happen through naturalistic processes just once! You evolutionists always like to pull out YOUR last line of defense that somehow given enough time it will happen...but that doesn't change the fact that we don't even have an explanation of how it could happen just once!

Pink Spider said:

Greetings!

I have a question:

Is the Bible 100% scientifically correct from the
beginning to the end?

Please (...and I don't mean to insult your intelligence)
think carefully before you answer with 'yes'.

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Of course not. That is beyond the scope of what the Scriptures are. They may contain bits that are relatively "scientific", but only in so far as they use the science that the ancient audience was familiar with in order to make a point, which had nothing to do with science.

Pink Spider said:

Agreed - but that doesn't have to mean that we
will never have a theory that explains it.

And least of all is it a proof for creationism.


That's not our last line of defense but our first line.
There is a lot of stuff both scientifically, logically
and philosophically just waiting to be 'discovered'
by you Theists...

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Actually science has all it needs to discover how life began. It has life, living organisms in their billions. All they have to do is reverse engineer enough of them and voila!

Seems I made a mistake, just ignore this. I dunno how to delete it though.

Pink Spider said:

Greetings!

I have a question:

Is the Bible 100% scientifically correct from the
beginning to the end?

Please (...and I don't mean to insult your intelligence)
think carefully before you answer with 'yes'.

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1. Scripture is God breathed (IITim 3:16)
2. It is the Word of God to man (Jn. 10:35)
3. it is infallible (Ps 19:5)
4. It is without error (Pr 30:5,6)
5. It is as it was originally given (II Pt 1:21)
6. It is a divine inspiration and that divine inspiration is plenary (Rom 15:4)
7. It is verbally inspired (Mat 4:4)
8. It is confluent (II Sam 23:2)
9. It is the very Word of God possessing all of His authority (Is 1:2)
10. It is sufficient to save sinners (Tim 3:15)
11. It has clarity for understanding (Ps 119:105)
12. It has the efficacy of convicting sinners (Heb 4:12)
13. The central purpose of the scripture is to confess and witness and confess to the Messiah (Luke 22:44)

THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD INSPIRED PLENARILY, VERBALLY, INFALLIBLY, AND IS WITHOUT ERROR. THE BIBLE IS AN ABSOLUTELY RELIABLE SOURCE FOR EXACTLY WHAT GOD WANTS MAN TO KNOW, WHAT GOD WANTS MAN TO BELIEVE, AND HOW GOD WANTS THE BELIEVER TO ACT IN THE SPIRITUAL LIFE.

Boom

It's not a brilliant recipe for black-forest-gateaux either.
But is it intended to be?

Hi Pink Spider! Welcome to CF! I have had a quick look into your posts and it is because of your humility and seemingly genuine interest in the faith that I want to just point two things out to you that may have been missed by others here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7753557-8/#post63361517
Recursion of scriptural affirmation - you mentioned this twice. First thing I can see is you are considering the bible to be an absolute entity, which in the strictest terms is not a bad thing. But, you are letting your disdain of this concept influence your respect of it's content. It is important to realize that the bible consists of many writings - 'scriptures'. In the days before the printing press, these scriptures were copied by hand and thus, various collections of scriptures existed and some owner's would have collections that certainly would not have contained all the scriptures of the bible and vice-versa, some people studied scriptures that were not officially compiled into the bible. In fact this is still the case, depending who we are referencing. So this means that the scriptures have to be considered by merit of their context. The context of the scriptures varies a lot, from testimony to advice to poetry to history and probably more. What I'm getting to here is that the testimonies of Jesus' witnesses contains direct references to Jesus' words, and since Jesus is understood to be the eternal Word of God made flesh, we can therefore scrutinize what He says to see whether what He says is true or false. In order to do this, you need to consult God for His spiritual affirmation. Jesus said in John 5:39-40

You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

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Now, it is my belief that when we read the bible, God speaks to us. It is also my belief that when this happens, we sometimes choose not to trust what He says. I am sure, even with your Atheist beliefs, that when you read this verse you can hear God speaking to you. It is therefore your decision whether to trust what He is saying or to trust some other idea. Whichever decision you make about this, I think you would do good service to investigate why you might believe one or the other.

My second comment is regarding your question here: http://www.christianforums.com/t7753557-9/#post63364027
How to obtain spiritual affirmation. Again, I will refer to the words of Jesus, who in John 3:8 is quoted as having said:

The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

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So it is clear from this verse that salvation is not something we can achieve by studying scriptures or making vows. In fact it is only something that God can offer, and when God offers salvation there is no confusion about what it means. The reality of such an encounter is what causes a person to accept His grace. This is not meant to say that you should stop studying the scriptures, because God has recorded the necessary knowledge to us in these texts that enables us to make the decision based upon the most reliable information available - that is the testimonies and thoughts of those who He has revealed Himself to. There's also not much stopping a person from asking God for salvation, mostly it is pride and greed that stop a person, but the specific reasons are so personal that many people face a real, personal struggle with their enemy. Likewise, for as many people are Christian, there are just as many perspectives on Christianity, as I can see you have encountered with due perplexity

So, it is nice to have met you here, I hope you find these comments relevant and helpful to understand the Christian faith a bit better. I'd like to see how you respond to these thoughts, and thereafter I may offer to pray with you, is that something that you would consider ok?

Pink Spider said:

Greetings!

I have a question:

Is the Bible 100% scientifically correct from the
beginning to the end?

Please (...and I don't mean to insult your intelligence)
think carefully before you answer with 'yes'.

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The bible isn't a science text book although it does contain observations of nature in it, its primarily historical account of ancient Mesopotamia's interactions with God. Some of the accounts in the bible are written poetically or with elements of mythos eg; the creation account, psalms, the account of Samson, revelations etc. Others are written as eye witness accounts eg; the gospel. So its important to read each book in the context of how it was written, to be able to do this requires studying ancient Mesopotamia's use of literature.

The Biologos website (founded by Dr. Francis Collins - prior head of the human genome project) has plenty of resources available on the relationship between faith and science. Home | BioLogos. I highly recommend Dr. John Walton's works (he also has videos on youtube you can check out).