Do you believe in aliens?

Jollybear123 said:

I know that UFO's and aliens exist because my mom said she saw one before and she was serious when she told me what she saw. I knew she was not lying. I also have a friend at work, he seen one, he was serious, he was not pullin my leg. These two poeple had nothing to gain in lying about their experience. They have not recieved publicity, made books, or got any attention for their experience. Nothing to gain in lying about it. And my mom and my friend don't know eachother, they are independent witnesses, and what they both saw, is the same discription. They told me they saw a triangular ship, very huge, as big as a walmart building in width. As close as the hight of the building, over their heads. The features of the ship clear as day, no subjectivity involved in what they saw. Then it hovered their for a few moments. Then when it took off, it flew light the flash of lightning speed and left a streek in the sky.

These two testimonies from my mom and friend is the sealer for me, i am 100% convinced their real.

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I heard it too from two people who saw a ship, while they sat at the water at two different occasions and they didn't know each other. Okay, one used drugs, but the other didn't.
But if it's real, I believe it's just the devil.

Messy said:

I heard it too from two people who saw a ship, while they sat at the water at two different occasions and they didn't know each other. Okay, one used drugs, but the other didn't.
But if it's real, I believe it's just the devil.

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Niether my friend nor my mom was doing drugs when they saw the UFO. Niether wer they practicing anything in occults either.

But why is it that you think ALL ufo's are of the devil? Ezekiel saw something that looked like a UFO, but it was not the devil.

sure, they walk amongst us, take our jobs, take advantage of our health care system, etc.

oh wait, you mean ET's not just foreign invaders, Alien Aliens, not Illegal Aliens.

I'm open to the possibility, as the Bible is quiet on the subject, which is not an answer of yes or no, but I have yet to see any incontrovertible proof of their existence.

Either way, it should not affect one's faith if alien life is found.

Jollybear123 said:

Niether my friend nor my mom was doing drugs when they saw the UFO. Niether wer they practicing anything in occults either.

But why is it that you think ALL ufo's are of the devil? Ezekiel saw something that looked like a UFO, but it was not the devil.

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No, they weren't practicing occults either, one is a christian.
Ezekiel? Never heard of that.

TwistTim said:

sure, they walk amongst us, take our jobs, take advantage of our health care system, etc.

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I saw a youtube movie and they said Obama had an alien who works for him.
When they asked Obama about it, he said: We couldn't afford to let them work for us anymore.

Messy said:

No, they weren't practicing occults either, one is a christian.
Ezekiel? Never heard of that.

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Ezekiel 1:15Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them.c 16As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of beryl. And the four had the same likeness, their appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel.
17When they went, they went in any of their four directionsd without turning as they went. 18And their rims were tall and awesome, and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around. 19And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures rose from the earth, the wheels rose. 20Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, and the wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creaturese was in the wheels. 21When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those rose from the earth, the wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

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Source: http://biblehub.com/esv/ezekiel/1.htm

This is the vision of the Glory of the Lord that Ezekiel is about to receive the Four living creatures have just been described, then these "wheels within wheels" are described. Finally the Glory of the Lord is described as greater still, and even more mysterious than the living creatures or their wheels.

And here is one popular artistic rendention of the chapter, we have the creature and the wheel above Ezekiel then the message of the lord from the cloud, and finally the Glory of the Lord above the clouds.

source: http://bibleencyclopedia.com/pictures/Ezekiel_1_Ezekiel_Sees_God's_Glory.htm
A lot of theories are that this wheel within a wheel could be a UFO, and the Four creatures were some type of alien.

Or it could be that when some people see UFO's they are seeing one of the Four Creatures at work.

I have heard both theories put forth, even inside a conservative church.

The universe is a big place. I guess it could be possible, but I don't think it really matters because if they are out there, I doubt they could get here.

JoyfulSerenity said:

The universe is a big place. I guess it could be possible, but I don't think it really matters because if they are out there, I doubt they could get here.

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very good point

Messy said:

But if it's real, I believe it's just the devil.

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What does life on other celestial bodies have to do with the devil?

Cearbhall said:

What does life on other celestial bodies have to do with the devil?

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It's not in the Bible that God created beings on other planets. It only says He made people, angels etc. and there are fallen angels.
I heard a story once of a christian woman who asked one if he confessed Jesus as Lord and he said no.
But I really don't know.

Messy said:

It's not in the Bible that God created beings on other planets. It only says He made people, angels etc. and there are fallen angels.

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So if aliens ever manage to get here and the public is actually made aware of them, some people are going to want to kill them for being demons? Great. What a wonderful species we are...

JoyfulSerenity said:

The universe is a big place. I guess it could be possible, but I don't think it really matters because if they are out there, I doubt they could get here.

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Why couldn't they get here? What if their way more advanced then us? Way ahead of us?

TX_CO_Matt said:

I've never understood the whole aliens = demons thing.

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Some people played DOOM and just saw a video game. Others played DOOM and saw a documentary.

My contribution to this thread is this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbugwnOE5jQ

Messy said:

No, they weren't practicing occults either, one is a christian.
Ezekiel? Never heard of that.

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Read the first chapter of Ezekiel the prophet in the OT, he sees four living creatures before the glory of the Lord, light, thunder is flashing, weels within weels are beside them. Wherever the creatures moved, the weels moved with them without turning as they moved. Everything about UFO's and peoples experiences with them, is eerily similer in many ways to ezekiels experience. But of course, everything God does, satan mimics. So, their are aliens (holy angels) and their are demons and fallen angels (aliens).

No, it also wouldnt shake my faith if suddenly I were walking and saw E.T. asking for my cell phone to "phone home" God can create whatever He wills. He doesnt have to tell us EVERYTHING he created. An existence of aliens would not disprove God.

All the stuff I have heard of supposed "abduction" survivors however point to them being created by Satan. Of course, people say that Satan can not create, only destroy, but many peoples faiths would be shaken if E.T. suddenly arrived.

According to most that have had "encounters" say they seem cold, heartless or "like robots" We humans are but simple ants, yet WE can make robots that are similar to us in movements, yet lacking the soul.

I could see a master of deception being able to create a much more sophisticated "robot" far more advanced than our attempts (organic robots instead of metal perhaps?) that would destroy the faith of MANY. Whether that creation is by illusion or physical deception.

Having never experienced them, I am VERY skeptical, but then I have been wrong of things I was skeptical about before so I don't scoff simply cause I don't believe in them.

Well, unless you are this guy.

Wouldn't change anything for me if it did, why not? There are more galaxies and planets. So if other living beings exist, good for them.

Isambard said:

Some people played DOOM and just saw a video game. Others played DOOM and saw a documentary.

My contribution to this thread is this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbugwnOE5jQ

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I've seen that one before.

Jollybear123 said:

Why couldn't they get here? What if their way more advanced then us? Way ahead of us?

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I suppose that could be possible... but then they probably still wouldn't want to come here because we've made the Earth pretty messy. If they could go anywhere in the universe, they'd probably find nicer planets to visit. Maybe we should tidy up a bit if we want them to show up.

JoyfulSerenity said:

I suppose that could be possible... but then they probably still wouldn't want to come here because we've made the Earth pretty messy. If they could go anywhere in the universe, they'd probably find nicer planets to visit. Maybe we should tidy up a bit if we want them to show up.

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Lol, kinda like having company over for dinner, clean the houes before doing so? ....Ya, makes sense.

Cearbhall said:

So if aliens ever manage to get here and the public is actually made aware of them, some people are going to want to kill them for being demons? Great. What a wonderful species we are...

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Fortunately those aliens will most likely have no problem defending themselves, lol.