My God is not dead!

Joshua260 said:

Wow! I couldn't last reading though all of this, but it reminded me so much of the story of the blind man who had been healed being questioned by the Pharisees. I dont want to get into this debate, but I just thought the resemblance was interesting (at least to my fellow Christians). The part I'm talking about is in John 9:27:

John 9:27 KJV
He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again?

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Were we talking to the person who had CP in the flesh, you MIGHT have a point. But we aren't so you don't.

XB3LI3V3RX said:

At first I just let my anger get the best of me, because I didn't realize this was a debate area and I was insulted that someone would call me a liar when I knew what I saw. After all this though I started understanding what was going on and now I'm just kind of playing along.

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If you want to stay, perhaps we all can get off on a better foot?

Indeed! No point in arguing, all we do is go in circles it seems, anyway. I agree with LoAmmi, let's all try to 'get off on a better foot'.

Whatcha say?

(He's saying we should start over and all be friends! Or something similar)

HitchSlap said:

Yes, apparently making unsubstantiated claims is uniquely human and dates to at least two thousand years ago.

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Well, no, in the story at least you had a person who was known to have been born blind that could now see and could attribute it specifically to one person.

Of course, the Jews in the story have to twirl their mustaches and rub their hands together before putting in their monocles and insulting everybody.... but I'm sure they acted just like that and it isn't character assassination by Christians against their rivals....

XB3LI3V3RX said:

At first I just let my anger get the best of me, because I didn't realize this was a debate area and I was insulted that someone would call me a liar when I knew what I saw. After all this though I started understanding what was going on and now I'm just kind of playing along.

~<Learn to Follow the Wolves>~

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Quite the quick lesson in how the real world works, eh?

XB3LI3V3RX said:

What do you mean?

~<Learn to Follow the Wolves>~

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You seem like a person who is terribly excited about HaShem. Have you participated in the thread that asks people to share their story about coming to their current faith?

Joshua260 said:

Wow! I couldn't last reading though all of this, but it reminded me so much of the story of the blind man who had been healed being questioned by the Pharisees. I dont want to get into this debate, but I just thought the resemblance was interesting (at least to my fellow Christians). The part I'm talking about is in John 9:27:

John 9:27 KJV
He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again?

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Wow! That totally reminds me of the 42 Children that were mauled by bears sent by God for making fun of someone for being bald.

Yes, let's leave that all behind. Fresh start, I say. We could always talk about something else (since this thread seems a bit used up, in terms of its original purpose)

XB3LI3V3RX said:

I have no idea where that is at. I only look at threads that show up under the "past three days" tab, so I'm not familiar with where all these subforums are at. I honestly couldn't tell you how to get to this subforum if you said to look it up.

~<Learn to Follow the Wolves>~

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http://www.christianforums.com/t7753023/

Share your story, if you'd like. Get to know people and you'll probably find we're not as bad as expected. (Some are even worse!)

Actually, it's right on the first page of this forum.
(Can't post links yet, sorry!)

XB3LI3V3RX said:

So if I got to that subforum and just put my whole original post from this thread into a new thread there it would be better?

~<Learn to Follow the Wolves>~

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No, that thread is about sharing your story about how you came to your faith. It's a get-to-know-people thread for this subforum.

I'm sure the rededication part would be nice for that thread, along with your original testimony, too.

XB3LI3V3RX said:

1.) Great because I don't either

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Your posts would suggest otherwise. But I digress, who really cares about that.

2.) So because you think their logo doesn't look how you think a Christian band should you think they're hypocrites. As I said before, if your going to say something about someone or something, then actually get knowledge about it first, don't just make assumptions based on one little picture or word.

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I wasn't calling them hypocrites. The impression you were giving me was a 'Christian' with a demonic logo that could have belonged to Slayer or Slipknot, for all I know. I assumed some kind of heavy metal, anyway. And without a reference point, there is no way I could conduct research if I had believed otherwise. I didn't see the bullet hole, remember?

When I mentioned hypocrites, I was speaking in general terms. And implying I thought you were being one (that judgment is still being reserved, for now).

3.) I didn't say anything about you not reading enough. I was telling you what that song meant since you wanted to make assumptions about it without even hearing it.

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I was implying that my reading skills are not impaired, and even perhaps surpass some people, if not most of the average of today's society (texting doesn't really count what with all the shortcuts). As for making assumptions and judgments, I do that. It's who I am, and while I may have regretted it in the past, I am fully embracing it today. That said, I will probably keep my mouth shut when it's wise to do so. But I'm not going to pretend to be some kind of saint either, nor do I wish to aspire to be such a person anymore. I'm entirely broken. That is, something deep inside me has snapped, and I don't think it will go back the way it used to be. I have yet to determine if this is a good or bad thing yet. At the moment, I'm neutral about it.

4.) Why is it irrelevant if something is true or not? Just because you have an opinion about someone doesn't mean it's right. I could say your a devil worshiping cannibal because of your avatar and say its irrelevant if its true or not, but it really isn't true. All that would make me do is look like I was too immature to get to know someone. You shouldn't base someone's whole personality off of reading 2 or 3 sentences especially on a forum like this.

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I'm not a cannibal. But I will neither confirm nor deny other parts of what you've said. I am somewhat glad someone can recognize werewolf lore, though. I don't really subscribe to the 'devil worship' methods for turning into a werewolf in stories and myths when I write my own werewolves, but it's part of the traditional lore so I don't outright throw it out either.... hmm... that gives me a few ideas, actually.
*jots down mental story notes, moving on*

You're also acting like I don't know the intimate details of 'why we shouldn't judge others'. I am fully aware of the positive and negative consequences of being judgmental, as it has kept me quite alive for the past 24 years. If I was completely non-judgmental, I'd probably have gone with some stranger and gotten myself murdered. Some judgment is a very good thing. You just have to know how to control it.

Also I kept saying it was the impression you gave off. I was not outright condemning you, but I wanted to bring up the issue to give you a chance to refute it all the same. If anything, I did you a favor by giving you a chance to explain the purpose of the avatar and signature, and in the exchange I learned something new. Win-win, really.

Also you didn't have to claim you think your the smartest person in the world. I also didn't say you were the smartest person in the world. I said people act that way all the time like they're better than everyone else, especially atheist down talking Christians.

~<Learn to Follow the Wolves>~

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I'm still not an atheist, though. I don't know if you realize it, but you keep implying I am one. Or perhaps I'm misinterpreting it. I do process things a bit differently, depending on how you word something. Also, prior behavior tends to flavor my future judgments of how a post should sound in my head.

Yeah, I read with imagined voices. Some can get quite nasty on this forum.