The first Baptist association in the Americas.

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The history of General Six-Principle
Baptists in America begins in Rhode
Island in 1652 . The General Six-Principle Baptists were the first Baptist association in the Americas. The
"six-principles" adhered to are those
listed in Hebrews 6:1-2 :
Repentance
Faith
Baptism
Laying on of hands
Resurrection of the dead
Final judgment
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles
of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on
unto perfection; not laying again the
foundation of repentance from dead
works, and of faith toward God, Heb 6:2
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying
on of hands, and of resurrection of the
dead, and of eternal judgment.


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Roger Williams was a Calvinist.

John Smyth, Thomas Helwys, and John Murton were co-founders of the Baptist movement in England, and produced a rich literature advocating liberty of conscience. Williams certainly had read some of their writings because he commented on them in his Bloudy Tenent. While Smyth, Helwys and Murton were General Baptists, a Calvinistic Baptist variety grew out of some Separatists around 1630. Williams became a Calvinist or Particular Baptist.

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Yup the Six-principal Baptists had both Calvanist and Arminian strains like all original Baptists. But since they were anti-confessional and Bible based the Calvanists left to the confessional particular Baptists. The Arminians then decided to form the first Bible based Baptist convention in the U.S. So the First Baptist convention in the U.S. was Arminian :p They even influenced the development of the Calvanist Philadelphia Baptist Association.

The history of General Six-Principle Baptists in America begins in Rhode Island in 1652 when the historic Providence Baptist Church, which was once associated with Roger Williams, split. The occasion was the development within the congregation of an Arminian majority that held to the six principles of Hebrew 6:1-2 - repentance from dead works, faith toward God, the doctrine of baptisms, the laying-on-of-hands, resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. Of these, the laying-on-of-hands was the only one really distinctive to this body, and that only because it was advocated as mandatory. This rite was used at the baptism and reception of new members symbolizing the reception of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Some Calvinistic Baptist churches were also "Six-Principle," but they did not survive as a separate body. Even the influential Philadelphia Baptist Association (org. 1707) added an article concerning laying-on-of-hands to their 1742 reprint of the 1689 London Baptist Confession. A distinguishing feature of these "General" Six-Principle Baptists was that they would not commune with other Baptists who did not observe the laying-on-of-hands. In 1656, members left the First Baptist Church in Newport, the church of John Clarke & Obadiah Holmes, and formed a second Six-Principle Baptist Church.

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Yup the Six-principal Baptists had both Calvanist and Arminian strains like all original Baptists. But since they were anti-confessional and Bible based the Calvanists left to the confessional particular Baptists. The Arminians then decided to form the first Bible based Baptist convention in the U.S. So the First Baptist convention in the U.S. was Arminian :p They even influenced the development of the Calvanist Philadelphia Baptist Association.



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I don't really seem to see the correlation between the comments you make that I've highlighted in red and the source you are providing, is there another source that you have?

I would also from the source find that the comment in blue is a twisting of how the source presents it to further some form of agenda, the way that the source presents it is that the Calvinist Six-Principle Baptists possibly from the split influenced the Phil. Baptist Assoc.

Also if I understand your motivation behind this thread correctly, (that is that General/Arminian Baptists are the only true Baptist) you need to find a better argument, the formation of a convention/association/alliance/whatever does not make a theology correct, or give a group some form of legitimacy then you really don't understand Baptist theology as it touches on ecclesiology and the nature of Scripture and the relationship between the two.
 
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I am just showing that American Baptists come from all Orthodox protestant lines Arminian and Calvanists. I even stated that some Calvanist churches were six-principal for a little while. That is being very fair to both Arminian and Calvanists.

"Some Calvinistic Baptist churches were also "Six-Principle," but they did not survive as a separate body."

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They even influenced the development of the Calvanist Philadelphia Baptist Association.

Looking back, I see that this was not necessarily true.

It is stated:

The laying on of hands was mandatory to be used with the Baptism and the reception of new members and represented the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

General Six-Principle Baptists

It did influence Calvinist Baptists churches, but in a different way.

The Philadelphia Baptist Association Confession of Faith of 1742 states:

We believe that laying on of hands, with prayer, upon baptised believers, as such, is an ordinance of Christ,1 and ought to be submitted unto by all such persons that are admitted to partake of the Lord's Supper, and that the end of this ordinance is not for the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit, but for a farther reception of the Holy Spirit of promise,2 or for the addition of the graces of the Spirit, and the influences thereof; to confirm, strengthen, and comfort them in Christ Jesus, it being ratified and established by the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit in the primitive times,3 to abide in the church as meeting together on the first day of the week was,4 that being the day of worship, or christian sabbath, under the Gospel, and as preaching the word was,5 and as baptism was,6 and prayer was,7 and singing psalms, etc. was,8 so this laying on of hands was,9 for as the whole Gospel was confirmed by signs and wonders, and divers miracles and gifts of the Holy Ghost in general,10 so was every ordinance in like manner confirmed in particular.


Footnotes:
1. Hebrews 5:12; Hebrews 6:1,2; Acts 8:17,18; Acts 19:6
2. Ephesians 1:13,14
3. Acts 18:7, 19:6
4. Acts 2:1
5. Acts 10:44
6. Matthew 3:16
7. Acts 4:31
8. Acts 16:25,26
9. Acts 8 & 19
10. Hebrews 2:3,4

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It can also be shown that as for the "laying on of hands":

Query from the church at Philadelphia. Suppose a gifted brother, who is esteemed an orderly minister by or among those that are against the laying on of hands in any respect, should happen to come among our church; whether we may allow such an one to administer the ordinances of baptism and the Lord's supper or no?
Answered in the negative; because it is contrary to the rule of God's word: see Acts 13:2, 3; and 14:23 compared with Titus 1:5; 1 Timothy 4:14; from which prescribed rules we dare not swerve. We also refer to the Confession of faith, chap. xxvii., sect. 9.
Philadelphia Baptist Minutes 1707-1768, 1729

Furthermore, in 1738, they said:

Query. Whether a person, ordained by laying on hands, for a ruling elder, who should afterwards be called by the church, by reason of his gifts, to the word and doctrine, must be again ordained by imposition of hands? Resolved in the affirmative.
Agreed, that since the catechisms are expended, and few or none to be had, and our youth thereby not likely to be instructed in the fundaments of saving knowledge, that the several congregations we represent should consult amongst themselves what they can raise of money for so good a design, and send, against the 1st of May next, by their letters, to Mr. Jenkin Jones or John Holmes, in Philadelphia, that they may know what number to draw out of the press.
Ibid, 1739

Unlike the Six-Principle Baptists, that say:

They believe the Bible makes the laying on of hands an ordinance. They believe it is the symbol of a passing of blessing like when Isaac bestowed the blessing on Jacob, or when Jesus blessed the little children, or transferred His healing powers. They believe the Scripture records Jesus Christ laying hands on the Apostles and the Apostles laying hands on people in blessing after they were baptized, and the people receiving the Holy Spirit as a result, for witness and power for ministry.

Ibid

By 1813, the Charlestown Association was teaching:

Q. How do baptism and the Lords supper become effectual means of salvation?
A. Baptism and the Lords supper become effectual means of salvation, not for any virtue in them, or in him that doth administer them, but only by the blessing of Christ (1 Pet. 3:21; Mt. 3:11; 1 Cor. 3:6, 7), and the working of the Spirit in those that by faith receive them (1 Cor. 12:3; Mt. 28:19).

Q. What is baptism?
A. Baptism is an ordinance of the New Testament instituted by Jesus Christ, to be unto the party baptized a sign of his fellowship with him, in his death, burial, and resurrection; of his being ingrafted into him (Rom. 6:3, 4, 5; Col. 2:12; Gal. 3:27); of remission of sins (Mk. 1:4; Acts 2:38, and 22:16); and of his giving up himself unto God through Jesus Christ, to live and walk in newness of life (Rom. 6:3, 4).

Q. To whom is baptism to be administered?
A. Baptism is to be administered to all those who actually profess repentance towards God (Acts 2:38; Mt. 3:6), faith in and obedience to our Lord Jesus Christ, and to none other (Acts 8:12, 36, 37, 38; 10:47, 48).

Q. Are the infants of such as are professing believers to be baptized?
A. The infants of such as are professing believers are not to be baptized, because there is neither command or example in the holy scriptures, or certain consequence from them to baptize such (Ex. 23:13; Pr. 30:6; Lk. 3:7, 8).

Q. How is Baptism rightly administered?
A. Baptism is rightly administered by immersion, or dipping the whole body of the party in water, into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, according to Christ's institution, and the practice of the apostles (Mt. 3:16; Jn. 3:23; 4:1, 2; Mt. 28:19, 20; Acts 8:38; Rom. 6:4; Col. 2:12), and not by sprinkling or pouring of water, or dipping some part of the body, after the tradition of men.

The Baptist Catechism, as presented by the Charleston Association, 1813

Basically, the way I read this (laying on of hands according to the General Six-Principles Baptists), you must submit to the "laying on hands", (dia) "in order to" receive the Holy Spirit.

So the question remains, do you receive baptism and laying on of hands in order to receive the Holy Spirit as the Six General Principle Baptists teach?

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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