How do we know that Christianity is the true religion?

I have thought that maybe I could be wrong, but with all the evidence for Christianity, the Bible, and Jesus, I don't really think that is a possibility. I have had some personal experiences that have helped me come closer to God, but not as much as other people here probably have had. I mean, we know Islam isn't true as they deny that Jesus is the Christ, and deny that He was even crucified.

homeofmew said:

Deuteronomy 22:27 talks about consensual sex between unmarried persons
= Sex Outside of Marriage ok
Leviticus 21:13 does not it speaks of rape.
= Rape a Woman and the Rapist has to buy her.

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Deuteronomy 22:27 she cried out no consensuality there

Leviticus 21:13 is about priests not about rape

I have to sleep now or do something else because of overthinking

homeofmew said:

Doesn't the bible say you should live by faith?
There are many historical evidences in Christianity, but there are in other religions too. I'm pretty sure no Christian Denies the Existence of Buddha, a precedent teaching of Hinduism.

The only reason I say there is no way to know for sure, is well, honestly we don't we know after we die 100%. Any Christian who says they 1re 100% sure is only lying to them self. Because other faiths even some off branches of Christianity like the LDS and Jehovah's witnesses say they are 100% certain. NOT everyone can be 100% certain. Even Mathematically there is some error. involved. Let's say Christianity isn't the right way you waste your entire life, and may go to some other faiths hell, or purgatory. What about the Chinese in 1000 BC? is it fair they go to hell? The way Christianity has it self set up is Jewish people and middle eastern get saved, along with some modern western people.

All I am saying is God should be a just God and take all of this into account, and I just don't buy the "you have to do x,y,z" in Christianity. We have all fallen short and sinned every Generation, why is it only a select time period get saved?

Let's say I am wrong and I face God and he knows that I have Confessed a sinner, but some native American from 1200 AD goes to hell? I don't know

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Then I guess according to you I am lying to myself. Because I know without a doubt I am going to heaven when I die. I know this because the Bible tells me I am. The Bible tells me to have faith. And the Bible tells me it is the true God breathed word. Along with all the other reasons I posted in my first response. Christianity is the truth 100% there is no question for me or a lot of people that I know.

Personally, I did not put my faith in Christ based on wishful thinking and stories I heard in Sunday School. I've done the research, I've left no stone unturned in my search for truth, and all the evidence I've found points to the God of the Bible. So yes, faith IS what the Christian walk is all about.

But it is not blind faith. The logical/scientific/scriptural/historical evidence is not only convincing, it's compelling. We know who it is that we put our trust in, and we have every good reason to continue that trust.

yeah sorry you are right
It also says after that

Deuteronomy 22:28-29: If a man find a damsel [that is] a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty [shekels] of silver, and she shall be his wife;

Also as for the poster who claims 100% yeah I'm sure the terrioists who blow themself up for Jihad are 100% certain too.
No I am not comparing the two faiths just that every faith claims they are 100% sure, and not every faith can be right.
Mainly because they all teach each of the other faiths/ even other sects in that faith are wrong.

homeofmew said:

yeah sorry you are right
It also says after that

Deuteronomy 22:28-29: If a man find a damsel [that is] a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty [shekels] of silver, and she shall be his wife;

Also as for the poster who claims 100% yeah I'm sure the terrioists who blow themself up for Jihad are 100% certain too.
No I am not comparing the two faiths just that every faith claims they are 100% sure, and not every faith can be right.
Mainly because they all teach each of the other faiths/ even other sects in that faith are wrong.

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I'm sure that extremists were in fact sincere in their beliefs, otherwise they would not have done it. But just because you're sincere doesn't mean you're right. You can be sincerely wrong.

The Fire Rises said:

I'm sure that extremists were in fact sincere in their beliefs, otherwise they would not have done it. But just because you're sincere doesn't mean you're right. You can be sincerely wrong.

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Exactly the same goes for Christians and any other religion/faith.
Muslim extremists are So sure they are ready to suicide for their cause.
There are some Christians who even form cliques and exclude others in church.

The sheer avalanche of evidence that's on the side of Christ makes it hard to put Him on the same level of credibility as Islamic extremists and other such sects. He's in a league of His own.

Also, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove/dispove by saying all this? You do believe in Christ, right?

please display the avalanche that shows Jesus came a virgin and walked on water and came back from the dead and burns people in a fiery pit in the afterlife and almost no one meets him untill after they are dead... saying our faith is just that, faith... is simple honesty and that is honorable. Jesus did not build a system of pretention and bandying of words.

The Fire Rises said:

The sheer avalanche of evidence that's on the side of Christ makes it hard to put Him on the same level of credibility as Islamic extremists and other such sects. He's in a league of His own.

Also, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove/dispove by saying all this? You do believe in Christ, right?

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Well Mohammad was a real person too, and Muslims claim he's a profit of God, not talking about the extremists here, but Christianity makes 0 mention of him.
Many of the other heads of faiths are arguably real people, or stories to embellish their life. Even Amen-Ra i'm pretty sure the Egyptians thought he was real..

EVEN if Christianity IS the right faith, what branch of it? I know Christians who argue over pre trib, mid trib, post trib.
And don't get me started on the Jehovah's witnesses that claim up and down that Jesus is Michael the Arch angel.

Two simple yet unfathomed to some; answers.....faith and belief. Without them there is no understanding and the truth will lack any understanding.

Hebrews 11:2-10

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2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.
5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”[a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.
8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

2 Corinthians 4:11-18

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11 For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12 So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.
13 It is written: “I believed; therefore I have spoken.”[a] Since we have that same spirit of[b] faith, we also believe and therefore speak, 14 because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you to himself. 15 All this is for your benefit, so that the grace that is reaching more and more people may cause thanksgiving to overflow to the glory of God.
16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. 17 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.



John 1:12-13 "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God."

John 3:16-19 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."

John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life."

John 14:11-12a "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing."

Acts 16:31b "...'Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved...'"

Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."

1 Corinthians 15:1-5 "Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve."

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast."

James 2:19-20 "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder...faith without deeds is useless"

Praise be to GOD the heavenly father and his son lord JESUS CHRIST forever>>>>>>>

I got my snow boots, I want to see this avalanche

Why do I feel like I'm defending Christ against fellow Christians lol (I'm operating under the assumption that you are both Christians, so please correct me if I'm wrong)

At this point this thread has started going a bit off track into debate territory so I will PM both of you to talk more about this before this turns into a circus. Or we could meet on main chat if that is easier. Doesn't matter to me.

Also homeofmew, you never answered my question. If you'd like to go more in depth about other religions such as Islam, there are some really great sites that have real testimonies of former Muslims and other converts, explaining why they chose Christ. But gain, it's more practical to talk about this over PM.

I really,really urge everyone to do their own homework on this, don't just blindly accept what any of us say. If you do the research and leave no stone unturned, you will not be disappointed.

homeofmew said:

Well Mohammad was a real person too, and Muslims claim he's a profit of God, not talking about the extremists here, but Christianity makes 0 mention of him.
Many of the other heads of faiths are arguably real people, or stories to embellish their life. Even Amen-Ra i'm pretty sure the Egyptians thought he was real..

EVEN if Christianity IS the right faith, what branch of it? I know Christians who argue over pre trib, mid trib, post trib.
And don't get me started on the Jehovah's witnesses that claim up and down that Jesus is Michael the Arch angel.

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Evangelicalism or fundamentalism seem to be the correct answer to your question. Pre-trib, literal millenial reign of Christ to be exact. SBC is God's true vessel on earth.

TheFireRises

You feel like that because you think anyone who disagrees with you is against Christ, that is the root of you pretending Christianity to be something its not, calling our actions a circus and thinking we have denied Christ and that you are defending him. Do not message me. We can go just close the conversation.

Well, unlike other religions. Christianity is not really a religion.. All other religions require some sort of ritual or task to reach out to their so called god.. In christianity, it is God that reaches out to us by grace, and gives us the neccessary faith to believe in our redeemer who not only payed our sin debt, and purchased us with His life. But also fills us with the Holy Spirit, Who makes all of the necessary changes in us thru sanctification.. He makes us Christ like. And we really do nothing..
As far as not seeing any change in your life.. I would have to ask if you are in the word.. Do you have a daily, moment by moment relationship woth Christ..
Or are you living each day like the crowd around you.. Watching television, listening to just anything on the radio.. Hanging around with the same old crowd that has never been saved.. You are either with Christ or you aren't.. You know what you have been setting as your priorities... Where is Jesus in that..
May i suggest reading 1 john & also the gospel of john.. And of course udjusting your priorities to suit those of Christ Jesus our standard for what christianity is... Blessings

xxxxxxtra said:

Well, unlike other religions. Christianity is not really a religion.. All other religions require some sort of ritual or task to reach out to their so called god.. In christianity, it is God that reaches out to us by grace, and gives us the neccessary faith to believe in our redeemer who not only payed our sin debt, and purchased us with His life. But also fills us with the Holy Spirit, Who makes all of the necessary changes in us thru sanctification.. He makes us Christ like. And we really do nothing..
As far as not seeing any change in your life.. I would have to ask if you are in the word.. Do you have a daily, moment by moment relationship woth Christ..
Or are you living each day like the crowd around you.. Watching television, listening to just anything on the radio.. Hanging around with the same old crowd that has never been saved.. You are either with Christ or you aren't.. You know what you have been setting as your priorities... Where is Jesus in that..
May i suggest reading 1 john & also the gospel of john.. And of course udjusting your priorities to suit those of Christ Jesus our standard for what christianity is... Blessings

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Then why does it have so many rules?

It's not a religion, but it's a religion and has rules, but it doesn't have rules.

Yeah.

OntheHorizon said:

TheFireRises

You feel like that because you think anyone who disagrees with you is against Christ, that is the root of you pretending Christianity to be something its not, calling our actions a circus and thinking we have denied Christ and that you are defending him. Do not message me. We can go just close the conversation.

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This is where the limits of online communications become especially obvious. My posts were completely misinterpreted, that's not necessarily your fault, I didn't word it in the most productive way. I'm fine with agreeing to disagree, and I never said that you have denied Christ. So that's just not true. I did not mean circus in a negative way towards you, i just meant that launching into an entirely separate discussion would derail the thread, and i dont want to do that to the OP. so please, lets not jump to too many conclusions here.

I'm just trying to understand your perspective and point of view. I'm willing to listen to anything you want to say, would you give me the same courtesy. I really don't even think we disagree on as much as you think, I think there's a lot of miscommunication going on, which is inevitable when people communicate over the Internet. I apologize if I offended or upset you, that was never my intent.

Yaldabaoth said:

Then why does it have so many rules?

It's not a religion, but it's a religion and has rules, but it doesn't have rules.

Yeah.

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Let's say you have a daughter. You could either teach her to do right, be polite, love you, her mother, and her siblings. You could teach her to work hard in school so she can have more chances for career in the future, to treat herself and others with respect. You could teach her with boundaries like curfew, a strict bed-time routine, and teach her to strive to meet and even exceed your expectations. You could teach her to be responsible and productive in her community. OR, you could teach her to do whatever she wants, to go out as much as she wants late into the night even during school days. You could teach her to not worry about her grades or studying. You could teach her to be only concerned with her own immediate desires and forsake everything else. You could teach her that it doesn't matter what her parents think because it's "her life". What do you think would be in the best interest for your daughter?

That is why there are "rules." They're not there to be a killjoy, but to protect us from danger or illness and from going down the paths which will lead us into destruction, in the end. God does, if we're receptive, whatever it takes to keep us on the right path. This is not because He wants our lives to be boring and dull, but because he loves us and he wants the very best for us, which ultimately is to live for eternity with Him.

His "rules" are also not about restriction, but about a life of true liberty. They're about loving and respecting all others, unconditionally; foremost loving God.

alexjb said:

is there anyway to know for sure that it is the true religion? it seems so hard to keep believing in it when you cannot see any changes in your life and I feel that its so confusing, I know that some people will post bible verses but what I mean is how do we know that the bible is really the word of God?

Thanks I believe it is, but after so many prayers that have not seemed to be answered I just have a little doubt, is there any thing that God has showed you in life?

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My grandfather was saved from being buried alive (murdered) by 7 people when an angel came to his rescue. The crazy part is his aunt told him he would be saved from death by Saint Joseph , Mary's husband. He laughed at my aunt but wasnt laughing 2 days after when it happened. It was an experience that changed his life.