Water -> Baptism. Monsanto wants to own all rights to water.

MariaRegina · Jun 5, 2013

Is water a free and basic human right, or should all the water on the planet belong to major corporations and be treated as a product? Should the poor who cannot afford to pay these said corporations suffer from starvation due to their lack of financial wealth? According to the former CEO and now Chairman of the largest food product manufacturer in the world, corporations should own every drop of water on the planet — and you’re not getting any unless you pay up.

Read more: Nestle CEO: Water Is Not A Human Right, Should Be Privatized
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The owner of Nestles is MONSANTO.

They would like to control all water, all seeds, all animals (Frankenfish, Frankencows, Frankenchickens), and all life, if it were possible.

If they controlled all water, we Christians would be persecuted for "wasting" water used for baptism.

Think about it: increased demand for water --> increased cost of water.
With increased costs of water and manufactured droughts, we would have more water police.
Water usage would be strictly controlled and usage limited to those applications essential to life.
Water used in religious rites and Holy Mysteries could be prohibited if not politically correct.
As it is, under the Patriot Act, Christians are considered terrorists.

TangoSprite · Jun 5, 2013

I wonder how they'd solve the problem of people who have wells on their private property?

This sounds far fetched. However, if this ever did happen I think it's the one thing that could catapult people to bloody revolt. Pay or die of thirst. Yes, I think that would do it.
Even a declaration of martial law would be hard to implement when the executive branch would be asking soldiers to draw down on the friends and family that can't pay for a drink.

inconsequential · Jun 6, 2013

TangoSprite said:
Even a declaration of martial law would be hard to implement when the executive branch would be asking soldiers to draw down on the friends and family that can't pay for a drink.

That's why they bought all those "no hesitation" targets of atypical assailants like a young (7-8yrs) boy with a gun, a woman with a baby in her arms and a gun in her hand, an old man in his home with a shotgun, etc.

Besides, if it came to that, it would probably be Homeland Security doing the policing since they recently bought so much ordinance as well as 2000+ armored fighting vehicles.

Ioannis · Jun 6, 2013

Mr. Brabeck's response:

Peter Brabeck-Letmathe: Addressing the Water Challenge

This is from a video in 2005. I don't think it is the official position of Nestle. Also, I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Nestle is not owned by Mosanto. They use Mosanto products and work with them (I think they filed a joint patent recently, but aren't actually owned by them.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a fan of Nestle or Monsanto. GMO products bother me and Nestle's business practices really bother me. I just wanted to help get the whole story out there and show his response to everything.

This video was from 2005. I wonder what happened in April that made this go viral all of the sudden.

Ariadne_GR · Jun 6, 2013

I don't understand why there's always a conspiracy theory going on with the topics in here.

MKJ · Jun 6, 2013

No, i dont think Monsanto does own Nestle.

And while water privatization is a serious issue, I do not think it is a logical conclusion to say it would lead to Christians being persecuted for baptizing with water.

Perhaps a more fruitful path (as opposed to the fruitcake path) would be to think very hard about opposing those political interests which want to privatize everything - typically the ones that think the open market can mediate the Good.

inconsequential · Jun 6, 2013

Ariadne_GR said:
I don't understand why there's always a conspiracy theory going on with the topics in here.

I don't understand why some folks automatically reject any hint of conspiracy with such issues. People conspire together all the time. Look at the IRS scandal, it sure sounds like a conspiracy theory but it's really happening.

Sure many of the theories are wacky and out there but a blanket rejection is no more rational than buying every one that comes down the pike. Satan influences people at every level of society, it would be irrational to think he doesn't have plans which require conspiracies at high levels of human society.

SeraphimSarov · Jun 6, 2013

Ariadne_GR said:
I don't understand why there's always a conspiracy theory going on with the topics in here.

Second.

gzt · Jun 6, 2013

Hence my irritated posts the other day.

I mean, really. Should we start a thread about Orthodox Christian responses to environmental problems so we can have an open dialogue about Orthodoxy and our relation to the earth and all the political problems that causes and all the actors that are doing bad things? We can do that. I'd be interested. I'd like that. We can even get into digressions about Monsanto in that thread. But, really, this constant "make a scaremongering thread that has an indisputed grain of truth and a disputable bunch of other stuff" is kind of annoying and not what I think anybody wants from this message board.

TangoSprite · Jun 6, 2013

List naming Monsanto owned companies not accurate; actions for change

Health News
June 2, 2013
The internet was ablaze on Saturday over lists of Monsanto owned companies to avoid; however, the lists are misleading because Monsanto does not necessarily own those companies and, in most cases, are simply providing raw materials to those manufacturers.

The Examiner Full Article

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Who Owns Who - Nestle

I don't see Monsanto listed. But Nestle owns a huge number of brands.

What's interesting is it's reported that Monsanto now owns Blackwater. That's an odd acquisition for a company of it's type.

MONSANTO Now Owns BLACKWATER (or Academi) (think MERCINARIES) Black Ops

Not to forget Bill Gates of Microsoft and his investment with Monsanto.:o

Had to add this for those who claim conspiracy theory.

by Ethan A. Huff
staff writer

February 24, 2013
from Natural News Website

inconsequential · Jun 6, 2013

gzt said:
Hence my irritated posts the other day.

I mean, really. Should we start a thread about Orthodox Christian responses to environmental problems so we can have an open dialogue about Orthodoxy and our relation to the earth and all the political problems that causes and all the actors that are doing bad things? We can do that. I'd be interested. I'd like that. We can even get into digressions about Monsanto in that thread. But, really, this constant "make a scaremongering thread that has an indisputed grain of truth and a disputable bunch of other stuff" is kind of annoying and not what I think anybody wants from this message board.

Man, I hear ya. It's kinda like this club I like to visit. They have a section in the back with strippers and every time I go to that section, I can't enjoy a beer without some topless woman strutting by on the bar. I mean, really! I don't want to see that.

gzt · Jun 6, 2013

But they have a good buffet, right?

MKJ · Jun 6, 2013

inconsequential said:
Man, I hear ya. It's kinda like this club I like to visit. They have a section in the back with strippers and every time I go to that section, I can't enjoy a beer without some topless woman strutting by on the bar. I mean, really! I don't want to see that.

Not to mention, if you are going to sit there, you really ought to tip.

inconsequential · Jun 6, 2013

gzt said:
But they have a good buffet, right?

Do they ever. It's the only reason I tolerate the naked women.

RobNJ · Jun 6, 2013

Although, you DO have to admire the spurious Evil corporation paranoia affecting religious practice correlation. What it lacks in accuracy, it more than makes up for, in creativity!

Doesn't CF HAVE a "The Sky Is Falling" forum?

TangoSprite · Jun 6, 2013

RobNJ said:
Although, you DO have to admire the spurious Evil corporation paranoia affecting religious practice correlation. What it lacks in accuracy, it more than makes up for, in creativity!

Doesn't CF HAVE a "The Sky Is Falling" forum?

Yes. It's one dedicated to atheists.

ArmyMatt · Jun 6, 2013

I don't know how they can own water. how could it be policed?

it couldn't

MKJ · Jun 6, 2013

ArmyMatt said:
I don't know how they can own water. how could it be policed?

it couldn't

The same way you can own an oil well.

ArmyMatt · Jun 6, 2013

The same way you can own an oil well.

yeah, but that would mean to own all of the property that has water, to include the stream that runs behind my house.

MariaRegina · Jun 7, 2013

ArmyMatt said:
yeah, but that would mean to own all of the property that has water, to include the stream that runs behind my house.

There are mineral rights which many people do not own as part of their real estate title. If you own property, see if you own mineral rights.

Water rights are a little different, and are controlled by law. They are not privatized yet.

If a person owns a parcel of land adjacent to a river, and if that river were to carve out a piece of that land, then they would lose it.

If a farmer draws more than his alloted portion of water from a river, he can be in deep trouble.

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