Bible Says, "Sunday Sabbath" - Adventists blinded by satan

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To me every day is the Sabath, because we should live holy everyday.

Yes, that's true. However, God said to set aside the 7th day and do no work, nor your animals or servants--spend the day with God and do no secular work---you can not do that 7 days a week--it's called lazy! You have to earn a living, clean the house, do the laundry, tend to your plants and animals, dust, mop and other unsavory duties. God said stop and spend it with Him--Christ died for us, it's not too much to ask that we spend one day a week to praise and worship Him. He set it aside for our own good, it was made for man. It also keeps us from becoming workaholics! It has nothing to do with Jewishness, the sabbath was set up at creation, long before any Jew--Jesus kept it, even in death. He was raised on Sunday but there is no bible verse that says the sabbath is now no longer on the 7th day, but on the first day.
There was no end of in fighting among the deciples over the question of circumcision, and about the Holy spirit going to the gentiles also, God had to send Paul a dream about that. Do you really think there would have been no discussion among them about changing one of the 10 commandments??!!
 
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The Apostles clearly honored Sunday, not Saturday. We read that they met for the Eucharist and the breaking of bread on the first day of the week, Sunday, the day of the Lord’s Resurrection.

Acts 20:7- And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.”


We see that the Christians came together to worship on Sunday. This day was set apart by the Apostles.

Corinthians 16:1-2- “Now concerning the collections that are made for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, so do ye also_On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.”

This next verse is particularly important.

Colossians 2:16-17- “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”

Here we see St. Paul specifically teaching that the festival and ceremonial laws (including the observance of the Sabbath!) pertained to the Old Testament period and are no longer binding after the coming of Christ. How clear does it have to be?


St. Ignatius of Antioch , Epistle to the Magnesians, no. 9, 110 A.D.: “If then they who walked in ancient customs came to a new hope, no longer living for the Sabbath, but for the Lord’s Day, on which also our life sprang up through him and His death – though some deny Him – and by this mystery we received faith, and for this reason also we suffer…”

This is a clear proof that Seventh-Day Adventists are foreign not only to the Apostles but to the most ancient Christians.

"Upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread" this was at sunset ~6pm. of the end of the Seventh day/Saturday night, 6 hours before midnight Saturday night.

Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.” (Saturday 12pm) or (6 hours into the First day that starts at sunset), then Paul left on Sunday morning! :idea:
 
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  • 90AD DIDACHE: "Christian Assembly on the Lord's Day: 1. But every Lord's day do ye gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. 2. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. 3. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, saith the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations." (Didache: The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles, Chapter XIV)
  • 100 AD BARNABAS "We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (The Epistle of Barnabas, 100 AD 15:6-8).
  • 100 AD BARNABAS: Moreover God says to the Jews, 'Your new moons and Sabbaths 1 cannot endure.' You see how he says, 'The present Sabbaths are not acceptable to me, but the Sabbath which I have made in which, when I have rested [heaven: Heb 4] from all things, I will make the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another world.' Wherefore we Christians keep the eighth day for joy, on which also Jesus arose from the dead and when he appeared ascended into heaven. (15:8f, The Epistle of Barnabas, 100 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers , vol. 1, pg. 147)
  • 110AD Pliny: they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath not to (do) any wicked deeds, never to commit any fraud, theft, or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of good food—but food of an ordinary and innocent kind. (About three years after the death of Ignatius in 250, an important official communication was sent from one Pliny to Trajan the Roman emperor. Pliny, the Roman governor of Bithynia, wrote of the Christians who had been congregating there probably from at least A.D. 62 onwards. In this remarkable it is explicitly stated that these early Christians observed the substance of most of the Ten Commandments, and it is implied that they observed all ten as far as they were able to do so. As far as they were able, for as most of the early Christians were of slave stock or from other lower classes'-, and those who had heathen masters or employers—the vast majority—would be forced to work on their day of rest, which was unfortunately an official working day throughout the empires' until Constantine's "Sabbath" Edict in 321 A.D. gave them some measure of public protection. Hence one reads that after meeting "on a certain fixed day before it was light", the first century Bithynian Christians had "to separate"—many of them having to labour for their masters and/or employers from dawn to dusk—"and then reassemble to partake of . . . food". The "certain fixed day" [stato die"'] on which the Christians met, is regarded by Seventh-day Adventists as Saturday'-. Certainly the expression would seem to indicate a regular day of meeting, probably each week. But Sunday is far more likely to have been the "certain fixed day" than Saturday. For if Pliny had been referring to the old Saturday Sabbath, as a Roman he would doubtless have referred to the "later" meeting first and only then to the morning meeting on the day al ter the "certain fixed day", seeing that the old Saturday Sabbath was demarcated from the evening of one day to the evening of the following day. But Pliny makes no such reference. Instead, he mentions that the pre-dawn meeting took place first—and only afterwards the later meeting; and that both meetings took place on the same "certain fixed day". This rather points to the Roman (and—more importantly!—New Testament) midnight to midnight demarcation of modern Sunday-keepers than to the evening to evening demarcation of the Jews and the Seventh-day Adventists. (The covenantial Sabbath, Francis Nigel Lee, Pg 242)
  • 150AD EPISTLE OF THE APOSTLES.- I [Christ] have come into being on the eighth day which is the day of the Lord. (18)
  • 150AD JUSTIN: "He then speaks of those Gentiles, namely us, who in every place offer sacrifices to Him, i.e., the bread of the Eucharist, and also the cup of the Eucharist, affirming both that we glorify His name, and that you profane [it]. The command of circumcision, again, bidding [them] always circumcise the children on the eighth day, was a type of the true circumcision, by which we are circumcised from deceit and iniquity through Him who rose from the dead on the first day after the Sabbath, [namely through] our Lord Jesus Christ. For the first day after the Sabbath, remaining the first of all the days, is called, however, the eighth, according to the number of all the days of the cycle, and [yet] remains the first.". (Justin, Dialogue 41:4)
  • 150AD JUSTIN: ...those who have persecuted and do persecute Christ, if they do not repent, shall not inherit anything on the holy mountain. But the Gentiles, who have believed on Him, and have repented of the sins which they have committed, they shall receive the inheritance along with the patriarchs and the prophets, and the just men who are descended from Jacob, even although they neither keep the Sabbath, nor are circumcised, nor observe the feasts. Assuredly they shall receive the holy inheritance of God. (Dialogue With Trypho the Jew, 150-165 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers , vol. 1, page 207)
 
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The seventh day is not the only Sabaths! Both the Old and New Testaments utilise the plural form of the word'sabbath' in various contexts. Unfortunately many translations have incorrectly rendered severalNew Testament Greek references to 'sabbaths' as 'Sabbath'. It seemsthis has largely been due to their lack of awareness of the OldCovenant law. So, as a result, translators have simply thought manyplural sabbath verses were referring to the weekly Sabbath. OLD TESTAMENT SABBATHS

The Old Testament utilizes the word 'sabbaths' in various situations.1) To define a specific set of weekly sabbaths, those defining the period between the first and third month assemblies. Lev 23:15 And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed. :16 Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the LORD. Deut 16:9 You shall count seven weeks for yourself; begin to count the seven weeks from the time you begin to put the sickle to the grain. :10 Then you shall keep the Feast of Weeks to the LORD your God ...2) In reference to the multiple land sabbaths before the observance of the fiftieth year. Lev 25:8 And you shall count seven sabbaths of years for yourself, seven times seven years; and the time of the seven sabbaths of years shall be to you forty-nine years. :10 And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, ...3) Scripture also uses the word 'sabbaths' in a general sense and in these cases there is some uncertainty as to exactly what is meant. Exod 31:13 Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: 'Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for they are a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you'. Lev 19:3 Every one of you shall revere his mother and his father, and keep My Sabbaths: I am the LORD your God. Verses such as the above portray a link between the plural word 'sabbaths' and the fourth commandment. (Note the text of Exodus 31:14-17 goes on to talk about the seventh day Sabbath.) Many scholars have considered the plural form of sabbath may legitimately refer only to the weekly sabbath. However, verses which are undoubtably talking about the weekly sabbath (when used in a general sense, rather than to refer to particular weekly sabbaths) do not depict the plural form! For example the word sabbath is encountered 4 times in Exodus 31:15-16 and is never in the plural form. This has lead some to believe that the word 'sabbaths', when used in a general sense, refers to multiple types of sabbath. Apart from the weekly sabbath and the land sabbath there are also other days represented as sabbaths! - The Day of Atonement Lev 23:27 Also the tenth day of this seventh month shall be the Day of Atonement. It shall be a holy convocation for you; ... :31 You shall do no manner of work; it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings. :32 It shall be to you a sabbath of solemn rest, and you shall afflict your souls; on the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath." Lev 16:29 This shall be a statute forever for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether a native of your own country or a stranger who dwells among you. :30 For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, ... :31 It is a sabbath of solemn rest for you, and you shall afflict your souls. It is a statute forever. ( NB: Like the weekly sabbath the Day of Atonement was - a complete day of rest, Lev 23:31 - breach punishable by death, Lev 23:30 - statute forever, Lev 16:31, 23:31. ) - Other Annual Assembly Days There were 6 other annual appointment days on which one could not do any customary(occupational) work. Refer chapter 23 of Leviticus. Three of these days are defined as days of 'sabbathism'. Lev 23:24 Speak to the children of Israel, saying: 'In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a rest (sabbathism), a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation. :39 Also on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you have gathered in the fruit of the land, you shall keep the feast of the LORD for seven days; on the first day there shall be a rest (sabbathism), ... :39 ... and on the eighth day a rest (sabbathism). While the word 'sabbath' (Strong's reference 7676) is not expressly used in these verses it is apparent these days were also a form of sabbath, ie break from normal work. 4) The Old Testament frequently presents the word 'sabbaths' in the context, 'Sabbaths, New Moons and set feasts'. The meaning of sabbaths in this context has to be derived after consideration of the terms 'new moons' and 'set feasts'. However, in summary it appears in this context that 'sabbaths' is alluding to the weekly seventh day and the Day of Atonement. For a fuller discussion refer to the page on 'New Moons'.NEW TESTAMENT SABBATHS

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'FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK'

This expression is commonly found in the New Testament referring to theday Christ rose and is additionally mentioned in Acts 20:7 and 1Cor 16:2.The Greek is commonly 'first of the sabbaths' and refers to the wavesheaf day which began the counting toward Pentecost. In other words thenotion 'sabbaths' here connects back to the first form of 'sabbaths'discussed under point one above, ie a specific set of weekly sabbathsdefining the period between the first and third month assemblies.For a fuller discussion refer the page on this topic.'DAY OF THE SABBATHS'

Luke 4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the day of the Sabbaths (not 'Sabbath day'), and stood up to read. Acts 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the day of the Sabbaths (not 'Sabbath day') and sat down. Acts 16:13 And on the day of the Sabbaths (not 'Sabbath day') we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; ...This term 'day of the sabbaths' could refer either to the wave sheafday (the first day of the sabbaths period) or Pentecost (the last dayof the sabbaths period).[ NB: In Luke 4:16 the term is encountered prior to the period of the 'sabbaths' as mentioned in Luke 4:31. So it seems the term 'day of the sabbaths' is actually describing the wave sheaf day. ]'IN/ON THE SABBATHS'

Luke 4:31 Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and was teaching them in the Sabbaths. Mark 1:21 Then they went into Capernaum, and immediately on the Sabbaths He entered the synagogue and taught. Mark 2:23 Now it happened that He went through the grainfields on the Sabbaths; and as they went His disciples began to pluck the heads of grain. Matt 12:1 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbaths. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. Luke 13:10 Now He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbaths.A reference to the period of the seven Sabbaths between the Feast ofUnleavened Bread and Pentecost.LUKE 6:1

Luke 6:1 Now it happened on the Sabbath second-foremost that He went through the grainfields.The purpose of the expression 'second-foremost' was to make it clear thatthe disciples did not pluck the grain prior to the occurrence of thewave sheaf ceremony (as such an act was expressly forbidden in the Law,refer Lev 23:14).In the context of the period of the seven weekly sabbaths there is a weeklySabbath which precedes the wave sheaf ceremony, it immediately precedesthe counting of the days toward the Feast of Weeks. Therefore it seemslogical that this weekly Sabbath be identified in this context as the'Sabbath foremost'.Hence the expression 'Sabbath second-foremost', apparently meaning 'Sabbathsecond-to-the-foremost", would be identifying the next weekly Sabbath, thatis the first of the seven weekly sabbaths. On this day the restriction ofLev 23:14 would not be applicable.MATTHEW 28:1

This verse should read; Matt 28:1 At the end of the Sabbaths (not Sabbath), ..., Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.Advising that two sabbaths passed between Christ's death and rising,the annual sabbath of the 15th and a weekly Sabbath.OTHER 'SABBATHS'

There are many other New Testament verses which refer to multiple typesof sabbath. Matt 12:5 Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbaths the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? 12:10 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbaths?"; that they might accuse Him. :11 Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbaths, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? :12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbaths." Mark 2:24 And the Pharisees said to Him, "Look, why do they do what is not lawful on the Sabbaths?" 3:2 So they watched Him closely, whether He would heal him on the Sabbaths, so that they might accuse Him. :3 And He said to the man who had the withered hand, "Step forward." :4 Then He said to them, "Is it lawful on the Sabbaths to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they kept silent. Luke 6:2 And some of the Pharisees said to them, "Why are you doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbaths?" :9 Then Jesus said to them, "I will ask you one thing: Is it lawful on the Sabbaths to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?"
 
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The Apostles clearly honored Sunday, not Saturday. We read that they met for the Eucharist and the breaking of bread on the first day of the week, Sunday, the day of the Lord’s Resurrection.

Acts 20:7- And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.”


We see that the Christians came together to worship on Sunday. This day was set apart by the Apostles.

Corinthians 16:1-2- “Now concerning the collections that are made for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, so do ye also_On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.”

This next verse is particularly important.

Colossians 2:16-17- “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”

Here we see St. Paul specifically teaching that the festival and ceremonial laws (including the observance of the Sabbath!) pertained to the Old Testament period and are no longer binding after the coming of Christ. How clear does it have to be?


St. Ignatius of Antioch , Epistle to the Magnesians, no. 9, 110 A.D.: “If then they who walked in ancient customs came to a new hope, no longer living for the Sabbath, but for the Lord’s Day, on which also our life sprang up through him and His death – though some deny Him – and by this mystery we received faith, and for this reason also we suffer…”

This is a clear proof that Seventh-Day Adventists are foreign not only to the Apostles but to the most ancient Christians.





do not be so naive


the SABBATH was started in the GARDEN OF EDEN

hm hm

can you read??
 
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To me every day is the Sabath, because we should live holy everyday.

Then you are braking the Fourth Commandment, it says to work six days a week and rest with God on the Seventh Day. It's hard to be,"Holy" while braking Gods Commandments.
 
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THESIS I-Torah and the New Covenant

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Law=Torah
H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Law=Nomos
G3551
νόμος
nomos
nom'-os
From a primary word νέμω nemō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), generally (regulation), specifically (of Moses [including the volume]; also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle): - law.

Law=Torah, Law=Nomos, Torah=Nomos!
Pay attention, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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THESES II- Two Laws- Carnal law and Spiritual law…
Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Please, pay attention. The law of Levitical priesthood, the law of a carnal commandment, carnal ordinances, the law of commandments contained in ordinances (Eph 2:15) is gone…

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law (NOMOS): for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Please, pay attention: the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God.

Seventh day( Shabbat) belongs to spiritual law, a gift to Adam, the jewel of perfect creation of God.
 
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THESES III- The enemies of Almighty

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Iniquity is anomia…

G458
ἀνομία
anomia
an-om-ee'-ah
From G459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness: - iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.
NOMOS=TORAH, ANOMOS IS AGAINST TORAH…


2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
G459
ἄνομος
anomos
an'-om-os
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G3551; lawless, that is, (negatively) not subject to (the Jewish) law; (by implication a Gentile), or (positively) wicked: - without law, lawless, transgressor, unlawful, wicked.


Yes, wicked is ANOMOS, AGAINST TORAH. He hates the law of God, he is the enemy of Almighty
 
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Summary: The New Covenant is the Torah written in our hearts, by the blood of Jesus Christ. Torah is the promise and the Gospel is the fullfilling of the promise. The Levitical priesthood and carnal ordinances are gone, by the power of the Melchisedeq, the high priest of Almighty, Jesus Christ. Who hates the spiritual law (and shabbat-seventh day) will be destroyed by the power of the Lamb and "with the brightness of His coming".

Adventists are correct, but are not clear on their thesis.

A Paz do Senhor.:clap:
 
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Nowhere in the bible does it say it contains everything necessary for salvation said:
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Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times, and Laws."

Cardinal James Gibbons admits the Catholic Church changed the Sabbath in the minds of the people.

Also the Catholic Church matches every description of Mystery Babylon in the Scriptures.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ttb-VFFuM
 
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Any argument that Christians must keep any part of the Mosaic Law is just dishonest about the structure and implementation of the Old Testament law, and indicates a severe ignorance about its applications. There are 613 Commandments, all of which are equally important, and all of them must be kept. Or none of them. There is NO distinction in the Mosaic Law between "ritualistic" and "moral" law. Sabbattarian Christians conjure up that self-serving distinction purely out of convenience. They have picked a few of the 613 Commandments seemingly at random, based on the ones that happen to tickle their fancy. That is willfully dishonest to the intent of the Law.

If you were to approach an rabbinical expert on the Mosaic Law, and announce self-righteously that you are "keeping the Ten Commandments," they would look on you as though you are mentally deranged. Under Mosaic Law, there is no such a thing as the "Ten Commandments." What we know as the "Decalogue" is subsumed into the overall structure of the 613 Commandments. Judaism does not regard the "ten commandments" as anything particularly unique or special in relationship to the other 603 Commandments. They are merely ten among many other laws of equal importance.

Out of the mandatory 613 Mosaic laws, Sabbattarians pick and choose a tiny handful that happily coincide with their overall goals of preening self-righteousness over other Christians. They flatter themselves all too easily. If you understand the way the Mosaic law works, all they have merely done is make themselves looks bizarre and foolish. The Apostles repeatedly denounced such behavior as "Judaizing." The Apostles were experts on the Mosaic Law. Sabbattarians are not.

For Christians, Colossians 2:16-17 means what it says, and says what it means.

For Christians, the AD 50 Council of Jerusalem emphatically means what it says: Gentile Christians shall not be bound by the Mosaic law.

Any argument that the Sabbath is a memorial of Creation indicates an profound ignorance of the original Hebrew that both Genesis and Exodus were written in. The writer of the book of Genesis took great pains to make it clear that the Sabbath did not begin at the 7th day of Creation. Hebrew scholars have made that point absolutely clear. The Sabbath commandment was not given to the Children of Israel until at least a month after their delivery from Egyptian slavery. Meanwhile, they would have unintentionally broken the Sabbath at least four times during their crossing of the Sinai. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anyone kept the Sabbath prior to Sinai. NONE!

Christians began worshiping on Sunday no later than 1 week after the Resurrection. Christ then Ascended on a Sunday. The Day of Pentecost, the Church's Birthday was on a Sunday. It would have been BIZARRE if the early Christians had continued to keep the Sabbath, given the impact those three Sunday events clearly would have had on them. Why were all the early Christians in one place on a Sunday when the Day of Pentecost took place? Because they had started doing so in honor of the Resurrection. By the Day of Pentecost, Sunday worship was an entrenched Christian custom.

The SDA argument that Constantine unilaterally destroyed the Sabbath has been forcibly disproven by their own Sabbath Expert, Samuelle Bachiochi. He has proven that Christian Sunday worship was universal no later than 135 AD. However, the joke is still on SDAs: Given Bachiochi's tortured interpretation of Colossians 2:16-17, it is now mandatory that SDAs keep the monthly, yearly and New Moon Sabbaths, as well as all of the Old Testament feasts.

Oops.

The argument for keeping just one pet commandment out of the 613 simply denigrates the obvious meaning of the crucifixion, the Resurrection, the Ascension and the Day of Pentecost. It is a Salvation by Works theory of "Partial Atonement." It is an argument that one must keep the entirety of the Mosaic Law, because Christ's sacrifice is not enough. Fortunately for Christians, even Christians who keep the Sabbath aren't even CLOSE to meeting that burden.

If you want to keep the Sabbath and the rest of the laws and have an ounce of integrity, you must go through the full-scale conversion process to Judaism that is a mandatory pre-condition. It is extremely highly-unlikely any Sabbattarian Christian would do that. For an unconverted Gentile to keep the Sabbath is such a serious offense against God and a defilement against the Sabbath, an observant Jew is required the impose the Death Penalty!.

And how is it that SDAs flatter themselves by keeping only the 7th day Sabbath? There are MANY more mandatory Sabbaths under the Mosaic Law that must be kept as well. How convenient!

Christians who keep the Sabbath are as bizarre as if they suddenly developed a yen to sacrifice some animals in their backyard temple. Or kept the Feast of the New Moons.
 
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This subject is old and you do not know your history. YAHSHUA, HIMSELF kept the Sabbath. Luke 4:16

1ST CENTURY AD
"Then the spiritual seed of Abraham fled to Pella, on the other side of Jordan, where they found a safe place of refuge, and could serve their Master and keep His Sabbath." Eusebius's Ecclesiastical History.
Philo, the philosopher and historian, affirms that this Sabbath was on the seventh-day of the week.
2ND CENTURY
"The primitive Christians had a great veneration for the Sabbath, and spent the day in devotion and sermons... They derived this practice from the Apostles themselves, as appears by several scriptures to that purpose." D. T H. Morer (Church of England) Dialogues on the Lord's Day, London, 1701.
2ND, 3RD, 4TH CENTURIES
"From the apostles' time until the Council of Laodicea [364 AD], the holy observation of the Jews' Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors: yea, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it." John Ley, Sunday A Sabbath, London, 1640.
3RD CENTURY
"As early as 225 A.D. there existed large Sabbath-keeping bishoprics or conferences of the Church of the East stretching from Palestine to India." Mingana, Early Spread of Christianity.
4TH CENTURY
"In the church of Milan (Italy) it seems that the Saturday was held in a fair esteem. Not that the Eastern churches or any of the rest which observed that day, were inclined to Judaism; but that they came together on the Sabbath day to worship Jesus the Lord of the Sabbath." Dr. Peter Heylyn, History of the Sabbath, London, 1636.
"For more than 17 centuries the Abyssinian Church continued to sanctify Saturday as the holy day of the 4th commandment." Ambrose de Morbius.
"Ambrose, the celebrated bishop of Milan, said that when he was in Milan he observed Saturday, but when in Rome observed Sunday. This gave rise to the proverb, 'When you are in Rome, do as Rome does."' Heylyn, History of the Sabbath
Persia 335-375 A.D. "They [the Christians] despise our sun-god. Did not Zoroaster, the sainted founder of our divine beliefs, institute Sunday one thousand years ago in honor of the sun and supplant the Sabbath of the Old Testament? Yet these Christians have divine services on Saturday." O'Leary, The Syriac Church and Fathers.
5TH CENTURY
"Augustine [whose testimony is made the more impressive by his being a committed Sunday-keeper] shows.. that the [seventh-day] Sabbath was observed in his day 'in the greater part of the Christian world."' Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 1st series, vol. 1, pp. 353, 354
"Down even to the fifth century the observance of the Jewish Sabbath was continued in the Christian church." Lyman Coleman, Ancient Christianity Exemplified , p. 526.
"In 411 [Mingana, leader of the Eastern Churches] appointed a metropolitan director for China. These churches were sanctifying the seventh day." J. F. Colthart, The Sabbath Through The Centuries, p. 11.
6TH CENTURY
"In this latter instance they [the Scottish Church] seem to have followed a custom of which we find traces in the early monastic church of Ireland by which they held Saturday to be the Sabbath on which they rested from all their labors." W. T. Skene, Adamnan's Life of St. Columba, 1874, p. 96.
On Columba of lona: "Having continued his labors in Scotland thirty-four years, he clearly and openly foretold his death, and on Saturday, June ninth, said to his disciple Diermit: 'This is the day called the Sabbath, that is, the rest day, and such it will truly be to me; for it will put an end to my labors."' Butler's Lives of the Saints, article on "St. Columba."
7TH CENTURY
"It seems to have been customary in the Celtic churches of early times, in Ireland as well as Scotland, to keep Saturday ... as a day of rest from labor. They obeyed the fourth commandment literally on the seventh day of the week." Jas. C. Moffatt, The Church In Scotland.
From Gregory I, Pope of Rome 590-604: "Roman citizens: It has come to me that certain men of perverse spirit have disserninated among you things depraved and opposed to the holy faith, so that they forbid anything to be done on the day of the Sabbath. What shall I call them except preachers of anti-christ?"
8TH CENTURY
India, China, Persia, etc. "Widespread and enduring was the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath among the believers of the Church of the East and the St. Thomas Christians of India, who never were connected with Rome. It was also maintained among those bodies which broke off from Rome after the Council of Chalcedon, namely the Abyssinians, the Jacobites, the Marionites, and the Armenians." New Schaff Hertog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, article "Nestorians."
"On the seventh day we offer sacrifices, after having purified our hearts, and receive absolution for our sins. This religion, so perfect and so excellent, is difficult to name, but it enlightens darkness by its brilliant precepts." China, 781 A.D. The China Monument
9TH CENTURY
"Pope Nicholas I, in the ninth century, sent the ruling prince of Bulgaria a long document saying in it that one is to cease from work on Sunday, but not on the Sabbath. The head of the Greek Church, offended at the interference of the papacy, declared the Pope excommunicated." B. G. Wilkinson, Ph.D., Truth Triumphant, p. 232.
10TH CENTURY
"The Nestorians eat no pork and keep the Sabbath. They believe neither in auricular confession nor purgatory." New Schaff Hertog Encyclopedia, article, "Nestorians."
11TH CENTURY
"Margaret of Scotland in 1060 attempted to bring ruin to Columba's spiritual descendants by moving against those who observed the seventh-day Sabbath instead of Sunday." Reported by T. R. Barnett in Margaret of Scotland; Queen and Saint, p. 97.
Concerning the separation of the Greek Church from the Latin Church in 1054: "The observance of the Saturday, is, as everyone knows, the subject of bitter dispute between the Greeks and the Latin's." J.M. Neale, A History of the Holy Eastern Church, vol. 1, p. 731.
12TH CENTURY
"Traces of Sabbath-keepers are found in.. the twelfth century in Lombardy."Strong's Encyclopedia.
On the Waldenses of 1120: "Observance of the Sabbath.. is enjoined." Blair, History of the Waldenses, vol.1, p. 220.
France: "For twenty years Peter de Bruys stirred southern France. He especially emphasized a day of worship that was recognized at that time among the Celtic churches of the British Isles, among the Paulicians, and in the great Church of the east, namely, that seventh day of the fourth commandment." Coltheart; p. 18
13TH CENTURY
"Canons Against Sabbathkeepers, Council of Toulouse, 1229: Canon 3. The lords of the different districts shall have the villas, houses, and woods diligently searched, and the hiding places of the heretics destroyed. Canon 4. Lay members are not allowed to possess the books of either the Old or the New Testaments:" Hefele.
"The Paulicians, Petrobusians, Passaginians, Waldenses, Insabbatati were great Sabbath-keeping bodies of Europe down to 1250." Coltheart, p. 19.
14TH CENTURY
"In 1310, two hundred years before Luther's theses, the Bohemian brethren constituted one-fourth of the population of Bohemia, and were in touch with the Waldenses who abounded in Austria, Lombardy, Bohemia, north Germany, Thuringia, Brandenburg, and Moravia. Erasmus pointed out how strictly Bohemian Waldenses kept the seventh day Sabbath." Robert Cox, The Literature of the Sabbath Question, vol.2, pp. 201, 202.
Norway: "Also the priests have caused the people to keep Saturdays as Sundays." Theological Periodicals For the Evangelical Church in Norway," vol.1, p. 184.
15TH CENTURY
"Erasmus testifies that even as late as about 1500 these Bohemians not only kept the seventh day scrupulously, but were also called Sabbatarians." R. Cox. op. cit.
Norway, Catholic Provincial Council at Bergen, 1435: "We are informed that some people in different districts of the kingdom, have adopted and observed Sabbath-keeping. It is severely forbidden -- in holy church canon -- one and all to observe holy days excepting those which the holy Pope, archbishop, or bishops command. Saturday-keeping must under no circumstances be permitted hereafter further than the church canon cornmands. Therefore we counsel all the friends of God throughout Norway who want to be obedient towards the holy church to let this evil of Saturday-keeping alone; and the rest we forbid under penalty of severe church punishment to keep Saturday holy." Dip. Norveg., 7, 397.
16TH CENTURY
Norway, 1544: "Some of you, contrary to the warning, keep Saturday. You ought to be severely punished. Whoever shall be found keeping Saturday must pay a fine of ten marks." Krag and Stephanius, History of King Christian III.
Liechtenstein: "The Sabbatarians teach that the outward Sabbath, i.e., Saturday, must still be observed. They say that Sunday [as the weekly day of worship] is the Pope's invention." Wolfgang Capito, Refutation of the Sabbath, c. 1590.
India: "The famous Jesuit, Francis Xavier, called for the Inquisition, which was set up in Goa, India. in 1560, to check 'the Jewish wickedness, Sabbath-keeping."' Adeney, The Greek and Eastern Churches, pp. 527, 528.
Abyssinia: "It is not in imitation of the Jews, but in obedience to Christ and His holy apostles, that we observe that day [the Sabbath]." From an Abyssinian legate at the court of Lisbon, 1534, quoted in Geddes's Church History of Ethiopia, pp. 87, 88.
17TH CENTURY
"About 100 Sabbath keeping churches, mostly independent, flourished in England in the 17th and 18th centuries." Dr. Brian W. Ball, The Seventh-Day Men, Sabbatarians and Sabbatarianism in England and Wales, 1600-1800, Clarendon Press, Oxford University, 1994.
18TH CENTURY
Germany: "Tennhardt of Nuremberg holds strictly to the doctrine of the Sabbath, because it is one of the ten commandments." J.A. Bengel, Lehen und Wirken, p. 579.
"Before Zinzendorf and the Moravians at Bethlehem [Pennsylvania] thus began the observance of the Sabbath and prospered, there was a small body of German Sabbath-keepers in Pennsylvania." Rupp, History of the Religious Denominations in the United States.
"The Abyssinians and many continental Europeans, especially in Romania, Bohemia, Moravia, Holland and Germany continued to keep the Sabbath. Wherever the church of Rome predominated these Sabbatarians suffered confiscation of property, fines, imprisonment and execution." Coltheart, p. 26.
19TH CENTURY
China: "The Taipings when asked why they observed the seventh-day Sabbath, replied that it was, first, because the Bible taught it, and second, because their ancestors observed it as a day of worship." "A Critical History of Sabbath and Sunday."
"Thus we see Dan. 7:25 fulfilled, the little horn changing 'times and laws.' Therefore it appears to me that all who keep the first day for the sabbath are the Pope's Sunday-keepers and God's Sabbath-breakers." T.M. Preble, American Seventh Day Baptist, 1845.

It is my suggestion that you read your Bible carefully. All through out the Bible YAHWEH tell Israel about HIS Sabbath. The last book in the Bible says you cannot enter Heaven without keeping the Commandment. This is located in the Commandment, to keep the Sabbath Holy. Isa 66:23 clearly state from one New Moon to another and on Sabbath another shall all come before YAHWEH and worship HIM! Question so whom will you be worshiping on Sunday, just wondering!

Oh yeah I agree Colossians 2:16-17 does mean what it means not to judge on YAHWEH'S Holy Convocations which includes the Seventh Day Sabbath. You see you and others in my church do not understand that Paul never said not disobey YAHWEH! Matter of fact Paul kept the Sabbath, do you read Acts? He also kept the Holy Convocation. Paul keeping the Sabbath Act 13:14, 27, 42, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4. Paul keeping the Holy Convocations not feast this word is pagan Act 12:3; 18:21; 20:6. Paul said any man change the Gospel should be curse Gal 1: 8-13. Um the only Gospel at that time was the Old Testament!

Happy Sabbath and blessings!
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