So you are claiming that the words are original to you? That you did not copy them from Matthew, even though it is word for word the same? That's plagiarism, which is stealing.
Interesting fruit you are harvesting.
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So you are claiming that the words are original to you? That you did not copy them from Matthew, even though it is word for word the same? That's plagiarism, which is stealing.
Interesting fruit you are harvesting.
In defense of Mr Zero that phrase is something of an English idiom. It's verbatim derived from the Bible but it's taken on a life of its own. Most speakers wouldn't quote this phrase in normal use.
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Unfortunately for that defense, Mach actually stated that the phrase was something "He also told us." (This was in response to my citing another teaching from the Bible.)
He also told us by their fruits we would know them
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The fact that it comes from a Liberty Counsel press release is more than enough to tell people that.
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Please tell me where I said that?
No, what's being asked, is to pay special attention to a particular group.
Never said that either
But I would also not pain the office pink or start using gender-neutral pronouns everywhere, in order to please a few.
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You seem to be having a lot of trouble grasping the fact that this is not a DOJ policy or rule or anything else. It's a list of suggestions offered by a social group at DOJ.
I'm sure they would both stay quiet and be honored that you would allow them to remain withing their free will chosen lifestyle choice.
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Because the perpetually outraged, negative information voters have been informed by the usual suspects that they need to go full histrionic on this non-situation.
Par for the course though.
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Please tell me where I said that?
No, what's being asked, is to pay special attention to a particular group.
Never said that either
But I would also not pain the office pink or start using gender-neutral pronouns everywhere, in order to please a few.
No one has asked you to, or asked the DOJ managers to, either.
You clearly have not read the brochure and are going strictly by the claims made by Liberty Councel and propegated by too many other "news" services that also did not bother to read it. There is nothing in the brochure that is not a matter of common courtesy.
Well, almost nothing. The suggestion -- and it's only a suggestion -- that the manager put a sticker on his office door declaring it to be a safe place for an LGBT employee to talk about a problem is a bit strong. But everything else is common sense rules for getting along with people who are different from one another and who have to work together day after day. Yes, the examples of how to address problems deal with situations involving an LGBTemployee, but that is because the organization is an LGBT organization, and all of its members have experienced those problems.
I would have no problem with similar brochures being distributed by any other similar organization. A Black lawyers association would use examples of problems Black lawyers have faced; a woman lawyers association, and a handicapped lawyers association would use other examples, appropriate to their membership. Even a Christian lawyers association's brochure would read much the same, except for the specific examples.
READ THE BROCHURE. Read it first, and then explain exactly how it is advocating anything more than common courtesy. The questions I asked that you are claiming you never advocated, are exactly what the statements of yours to which the questions were a response would mean if applied to what the brochure actually says, rather than what Liberty Councel claims it "mandates."
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On a more constructive note, let me again post the link for the brochure and list the seven tips. Then you can tell me exactly which tips you find to be " caving to infantile "classroom rules" appropriate for third-graders, not grown-ups working at the DOJ."
The tips (slightly paraphrased -- if you disagree with my interpretation, quote the actual brochure, not the Liberty Council's interpretation.)
- Assume anything said at the office will be said in the hearing of at least one LGBT employee. Don't assume that you know that "everyone here is straight, so it's OK" (same rules as for Ethnic jokes or off-color language)
- Be respectful in your language. Ask about your co-worker's partner, not "that guy you are doing," just as would would ask about another co-worker's wife, not "the broad in your bed." Refer to your co-worker as "Ms Smith," not "Mr Smith who had his penis snipped" Keep the workplace professional and cordial
- Let your coworkers know when they are being inappropriate. "Sissy" jokes and sexual innuendo have no more place in the workplace than Black jokes and racial profiling.
- (For managers) Do not avoid LGBT coworkers. If you have give-and take planning sessions include their ideas. If you are making plans for the weekend and they recommend a movie they saw last weekend with their partner, stay focused on the movie; don't get hung up on the partner.
- (For managers) In some cases, it may be necessary to explicitly let everyone know that your office is a safe place for anyone to talk privately, that nothing said will be repeated and that if more professional help is needed, you will help them contact the appropriate departments to get it discretely. Since the brochure was put out by an LGBT organization, it focuses on LGBT employees as the ones to be helped, but it really applies to everyone.
- (For Managers) Just as it is inappropriate to tell a female employee that she has to dress sexier (or plainer) if she wants to advance and get the promotions (whether as an order from the boss ["I won't recommend your promotion if you don't"] or as "friendly advice."), it is inappropriate to tell a gay or transgender male employee to butch it up or give the opposite advice to a female employee.
- (For managers) If, because you follow Tip #5, a closeted employee comes out to you, do not over-react. Sometimes in this situation, silence can be over-reaction, so acknowledge the revelation and then be prepared to continue the original conversation.
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I think such an event would be globally important, not only in their lives, if the birth is result of the marriage.
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Gee! You make it sound unprecedented. It happens all the time. Two married women decide to have a baby and they go to the sperm bank together. Or two married men decide to have a baby and they contract with a surrogate.
Oh! Did you mean something else? A child genetically linked to both parents? Even that is not beyond our society's scinentific abilities. Though it is not currently feasable, the technology is, as far as we can tell, all in place. We just need to perfect the technique and then make it safer all around.
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So when you receive a pamphlet on racial and/or cultural consciousness, do you say that certain groups want too much attention?
If people are noticing problems in the workplace, then yeah, it’s time to pay a bit more attention. I don’t see anyone disrespecting heterosexual people. When someone calls you a "breeder" and you're worried that you won't get a promotion because you're heterosexual, feel free to make a pamphlet.Never said that either
But I would also not pain the office pink or start using gender-neutral pronouns everywhere, in order to please a few.
Again with the pink. That’s the sort of disrespectful comment that this pamphlet is talking about. I assume you’re referring to the stereotype that gay men are ultra-feminine? This is about the entire LGBT community. If you’re referring to the rainbow sticker suggestion, saying that they want you to paint the walls pink is just a bit of an exaggeration.
Was there a point to this comment, or did you just want to make an insensitive joke? Again, that’s why this pamphlet exists. Imagine if someone made a sarcastic comment like that about an infertile heterosexual couple. And actually, there are people who have the same legal sex (and can therefore have their marriages recognized federally) but can still reproduce with each other.
Paraphrasing is not plagiarism
What? I've never been allowed to paraphrase without citing.
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Paraphrasing is not plagiarism
Paraphrasing is putting it in your own words, as I did in the post you were replying to. When you use the original words, you are quoting. When you claim that the original words that you are quoting are your own words, that is plagiarism.
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You do realize that about half the people who no longer respect you will not call you anything but Mr Zero, now......
I'm in the other half, and will continue to call you Mach or MZ. I was brought up to be polite to everyone. (Sometimes I forget when I lose patience, but mostly I manage)
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