Judge won't allow Trayvon texts, pics, drug use in Zimmerman trial
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What I've been saying the entire time.
yes, but neither of these scenarios is what's being presented. Nobody's claiming Martin to be a choirboy, and his fighting prowess can go either way, as the ability to hold one's own in an altercation says nothing about one's predilection for starting them.
Remember, it's the defense who wants to introduce Martin's reputation, so that their story seems all the more likely -- that Martin probably did something to deserve getting shot.
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Just as I feared. The Low Information Liberal Voter needs things explain in the simplist of terms. However, only some issues are relevant.
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George Zimmerman Wants To Testify At Trayvon Martin Murder Trial | Radar Online
In an unusual turn, Zimmerman wants to testify on his own behalf.
George maintains it was absolutely self-defense. Normally, criminal defense attorneys dont want to put their client on the stand, but in this case, Mark OMara (Georges attorney) feels so strongly in the evidence, and in his innocence, he would be inclined to allow him to testify."
In an unusual turn, Zimmerman wants to testify on his own behalf.
George maintains it was absolutely self-defense. Normally, criminal defense attorneys dont want to put their client on the stand, but in this case, Mark OMara (Georges attorney) feels so strongly in the evidence, and in his innocence, he would be inclined to allow him to testify."
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Go easy on yourself, Veritas -- he tried to explain it to you as simply as he could.
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Actually, since Zimmerman is claiming self-defense in a case with no witnesses, he'd have to testify or he'd be sunk.
Awww.... his lawyer believes in him... how cute.
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What flame? I was trying to keep you from being discouraged.
Some of the legal issues here are more complicated than others -- nobody (but yourself) is blaming you for not picking up on every last one.
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Was I just called a liberal?
No. That was apparently your target audiance.
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You do of course realize that a defendant testifying at his own trial is the judicial equivilant of a hail mary pass, right? The reason that it rarely happens is that usually when they do it really just ends of weaking the defense's case on cross-examination. When they do testify it usually mean the defense knows that it's case it very weak and that tesfifying can't make things any worse and it has a chance of making things better.
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Let's not forget that there is a witness who saw Zimmerman on the ground getting beat up
Well then, all that witness has to do is testify about who started the fight. Assuming, of course, the witness actually witnessed that.
Martin started it? Zimmerman walks.
Zimmerman started it? He goes to jail.
I suspect if this witness saw anything useful to the defense, they wouldn't be so desperate to paint Martin as a thug.
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What flame? I'm trying to help you here. Our legal system is complicated; if you need help, just ask.
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The Zimmerman defense could be taught in law schools as an example of what tactics a desperate defense employs.Well then, all that witness has to do is testify about who started the fight. Assuming, of course, the witness actually witnessed that.
Martin started it? Zimmerman walks.
Zimmerman started it? He goes to jail.
I suspect if this witness saw anything useful to the defense, they wouldn't be so desperate to paint Martin as a thug.
Any takers on how long it is until they request a change of venue?
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If you were walking around on your own and a larger man got out of his car and came at you, what would you do?
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I certainly would not attack him out of nowhere, because he had (at that point) taken no hostile action against me. I'd find out what he wanted. IF he then proceeded to attack me, we'd have a different situation, and I'd defend myself.
And my country is fiddlesticked-up enough, so that if I end up winning the fight that the other guy started, I might end up being the one who's charged with assault.
Hey, what if you bumped your shopping cart into me while shopping? Isn't that an aggressive move, that allows me to beat you up?*
* = Hint for those who might think that's a serious question: It isn't.
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