Dying woman denied abortion in El Salvador

The physicians cannot give her proper treatment for her lupus or kidney disease because she is pregnant with the nonviable fetus with no brain or skull. Doctors cannot prescribe proper medication when a woman is pregnant because it can go through the placenta, and they will not give radiation therapy for cancer, ect. either or do the necessary procedures like surgery, ect.

This woman is not getting the needed medical treatment for her lupus and kidney disease because she has this because they will not give it to her. Upon this being pregnant causes her to need twice the amount of calories and vitamins, which is hard to do when one is sick with a disease which attacks their own tissues. She's not getting what she NEEDS for her kidney disease, either. This is a horrible, terrible situation for her and it is KILLING BEATRIZ WHO NEEDS MEDICAL TREATMENT NOW.

The contact for the U.S. Embassy in El Salvador is:

Contacting us by mail, telephone or fax:
Embajada de Los Estados Unidos
Final Boulevard Santa Elena
Antiguo Cuscatlán, La Libertad
Telephone: 2501-2999
Fax: 2501-2150


The country code for El Salvador is 503 and the code for international calling is 011. So, dial 011-503-2501-2999. The U.S. ambassador to El Salvador is Sean Murphy.


There is also a British Embassy in El Salvador:
https://www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-san-salvador


British Embassy,
Edificio Torre Futura,
14th floor,
Colonia Escalon
San Salvador
El Salvador
Email General e-mail: britishembassy.elsalvador@fco.gov.uk. Consular inquiries: consularinquiries.sansalvador@fco.gov.uk
Switchboard +503 2511-5757


The United Nations is also involved to SAVE BEATRIZ:

"El Salvador: UN experts call on the government to provide treatment to save the life of a woman at risk

April 26, 2013 by Women's rights and the Media

GENEVA – A group of independent experts on human rights of the United Nations * appealed today to the government of El Salvador to provide treatment to save the life of a woman of 22 who has been diagnosed with a high risk of death related with her pregnancy.


Beatriz (her last name is omitted to protect her identity) has a number of health problems that endanger their lives during pregnancy and needs an urgent medical treatment to interrupt it and save her life. However, the procedures have not been carried out because the abortion is prohibited under any circumstances in El Salvador, according to article No. 133 of the Penal Code.


“We urge the Government of El Salvador to take all necessary measures to ensure the protection and full enjoyment of the right to life and to the highest possible health standard to Beatriz in accordance with international human rights standards, ” said UN experts in health rights, torture and violence and discrimination against women, Anand Grover, John E. Mendez, Rashida Manjoo and Kamala Chandrakirana.

The diagnosis of Beatriz’s health situation was issued in March by the authorities at the Hospital National Maternity in San Salvador and was reiterated on Tuesday through by the National Bioethics Committee of El Salvador. It was also confirmed that the foetus has no chance of survival outside the womb because of the filing anencephaly.


“This uncertainty has extended the suffering of Beatriz, who has full understanding of the health of the foetus and the risk of death that she faces; she is living in a cruel, inhuman and degrading situation” independent experts stressed.


“This case illustrates the urgent need to launch a national dialogue on abortion legislation in order to consider the introduction of exceptions to the general prohibition, especially in cases of therapeutic abortion and pregnancy resulting from rape or incest”, they stressed.


An appeal was filed at the Constitutional Chamber of the Supreme Court of Justice to ensure that medical personnel can provide Beatriz the required treatment without fear that she or medical personnel will be prosecuted. The decision is still pending.


(*) Anand Grover, Special Rapporteur on the right to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health, John E. Méndez, Special Rapporteur on the question of torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment; Rashida Manjoo, Special Rapporteur Special Rapporteur on violence against women, its causes and consequences, and Kamala Chandrakirana, Chair of the Working Group on the issue of discrimination against women in law and in practice.


More information:
Right to health: Special Rapporteur on the right to health
Torture: Special Rapporteur on torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment
Violence against women: Special Rapporteur on the right to health
Discrimination against women:
WG on discrimination against women
UN Human Rights – El Salvador: El Salvador
UN Media contact EL SALVADOR:
Carlos Leon Ramos / RCO


Tel 2209-3509 / carlos.leon @ one.un.org"


El Salvador: UN experts call on the government to provide treatment to save the life of a woman at risk | Women's rights, social inclusion and the media


SAVE BEATRIZ, SHE NEEDS HEALTHCARE! She will heinously die without this!

"Wednesday, May 22, 2013 01:54 PM PST El Salvador court delays ruling on abortion case while woman’s life hangs in the balance

"It's a tragedy. She is desperate as she nears her 25th week of pregnancy," said lawyer Angelica Rivas

By Katie Mcdonough
(Credit: Agrupación Ciudadana por la Despenalización del Aborto)
After more than a month of delays, El Salvador’s Supreme Court has announced that it will decide whether or not a critically ill woman may receive a lifesaving abortion within the next two weeks. The 22-year-old woman, identified only as Beatriz, pleaded with the justices to spare her life last week, telling the court: “This baby inside me cannot survive. I am ill. I want to live.”


“It’s a tragedy. She is desperate as she nears her 25th week of pregnancy,” Beatriz’s lawyer Angelica Rivas told the Thomson Reuters Foundation on Wednesday. “She trusts her doctors who say she needs to have an abortion.”


Beatriz’s doctors are not the only ones who have advocated for the lifesaving procedure. As Salon has previously reported, the young woman, who has been hospitalized for weeks due to life-threatening complications related to her lupus, hypertension and kidney function and whose anencephalic fetus has been pronounced nonviable by her doctors, has the support of El Salvador’s Ministry of Health and President Mauricio Funes. In a statement last week, Funes said that Beatriz, who is already a mother to a young son, should be able to decide her own fate.


Reproductive rights advocates in El Salvador have been joined by the international community to apply pressure to the court, including the United Nations and other human rights groups, as Thomson Reuters reports:“It could be up to another three weeks before the Supreme Court makes a decision on whether or not Beatriz lives or dies, or is potentially left with severe health problems — which is cruel in the extreme,” Amnesty International’s Central America researcher Esther Major, who is involved in the case, told Thomson Reuters.


“We’re talking about a non-viable pregnancy and the right to life. The courts have let her down. They are toying with her life,” she said."
El Salvador court delays ruling on abortion case while woman’s life hangs in the balance - Salon.com


"Doctors at the hospital treating Beatriz requested permission from state authorities to carry out an abortion more than two months ago. But they have not gone ahead with the procedure for fear that they and Beatriz could be prosecuted and face imprisonment for up to 12 and 50 years respectively.


Since El Salvador's blanket ban on abortion came into effect in 1998, 628 women have been jailed for having abortions, some for 30 years, according to a local rights group."


El Salvador's Supreme Court 'toying' with young mother's life



Demand Life-Saving Treatment for Beatriz in El Salvador

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TheDag said:

That is a rather unusual Christian view and one that I am absolutely certain you do not follow.

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Show me one place where JESUS talks about abortion or gives any command about it, yet, it is shown with evidence that it existed at the time and centuries upon centuries beforehand.

Answer: NO WHERE.

(And I know this because I've read every word from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John )

There is absolutely NO words on it, however, there IS Jesus healing the women and John 8:1-11, where the woman is saved from stoning... so clearly.. JESUS does believe women's lives are worth saving and are valued...

Luke was also a physician... so...

Do, tell, where is this phrase from JESUS, in CHRISTianity (which is SUPPOSED to have JESUS central, the #1 and absolute authority)... where He says anything about abortion or that a woman shouldn't receive medical treatment and die, because that means they are significantly worth less.

I'll wait. Remember, it can ONLY be from JESUS WHO IS GOD, Himself.

TheDag said:

I would appreciate it if you actually read my posts and only ask me about things I have written if you are going to demand evidence.

First to make sure we are on the same page explain your view of the bible please. My view of the bible is a unorthodox view and actually sounds as if our views would be similar but still different. My view is that the bible is the inspired word of God.

Secondly tell me if you believe slavery is perfectly ok. See if you use the argument that if Jesus doesn't mention it and it existed then Jesus who is God must endorse it then slavery existed and Jesus did not say it was wrong therefore God must endorse slavery. Now I could not disagree more and if it was on topic I would explain why Jesus did not condemn slavery. However my view of the bible does not arrive at that conclusion and the orthodox view of the bible also does not. Only your view arrives at that conclusion.

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Actually, JESUS WHO IS GOD said slavery was NOT OK and FORBIDDEN. Jesus who is God said, "Neither be ye called masters, for their is ONE master, CHRIST"

Jesus, who is God, also stated, "You CANNOT server two masters, you will either love one... or hate the other... You CANNOT serve both God and mammon."


To me this is absolutely, 100% clear... people or things are NOT to be called masters except for JESUS who is God. Meaning, slavery is heinous and wrong.

Slavery especially in the 2nd example, would actually cause a person to hate Jesus who is God and love their human master instead, which, indeed would be heinous and inhuman. They would turn away from JESUS who is God... according to Jesus's words anyway.

Slavery, however, if one doesn't follow Jesus alone, a person would look at pauls or peter's quotes and says it is 'fine' even though JESUS WHO IS GOD said it wasn't.

African American slaves also held this view--- that JESUS WHO IS GOD is to be listened to first and foremost--- JESUS was the higher law above the human on, since JESUS was master, there was a master above their master, therefore, the human one was 100% invalid.

"But when slaves take this Jesus, how they reconnect the dots is to say, 'OK, well if Jesus is master, then my earthly master isn't my only one, he's not my most powerful one, in fact I have a master above my master ... and that master can challenge the slave owner, can teach a higher law.' And then when we get to service, when slaves hear that Jesus was a servant, they say, 'Hey, wait a second, he also suffered, he was crucified, but that wasn't the rest of the story. The rest of the story was he was resurrected, and not only was Jesus resurrected, but he resurrected his friends in the story of Lazarus.'"

"So for African-Americans who have death all around them — and not just literal death, but also the death of families, you know, when you see your wife or child sent away ... Jesus has resurrection power for him and his friends. So what slaves do is they basically take those models of master and of servant, and they just connect them differently than the way the slave masters intended, and they create basically a wholly new form of Protestant Christianity."

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/19/165473220/color-of-christ-a-story-of-race-and-religion-in-america

So... if one actually LISTENS to JESUS, then "Neither be ye called masters" and "You CANNOT serve two masters" becomes LITERAL... and indeed, MANY people took it literally and slavery was FINALLY abolished.

PRAISE JESUS WHO IS GOD!

Finally I never said anything about abortion being right or wrong. I only stated that SayaOtonashi's view of the bible is a highly unusual view and that if they truly followed that reasoning then there is no way in the world they actually follow God's commands that they are supposed to follow according to their view of the bible.

From reading numerous posts of yours I get the strong impression that you have an issue with men probably caused by a man or men. I urge you to take care not to project that onto all men by reading stuff that is not there.

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What I've seen you are really conservative.... haven't you yelled at people before? I think I have seen this. Also, this has nothing to do with my post. I like men a lot especially the liberal ones! How else could I have romantic relationships with them and have many friends of them? JESUS who is God is man! The conservatives (in general both men and women) get on my nerves because they want inequality and anti-civil rights movement in general and anti-poor.

Usually, this argument is done by conservatives to be anti-egalitarian. Like, when someone says "they are equal and can both lead" this goes into some straw man argument that just because they want to lead (like be Presidents, CEOs, engineers, physicians, senators, governors, pastors, deacons, elders, bishops, popes, ministers, scientists, astronauts, Olympic athletes), and know they are equal, they must 'hate men'... because um... they think they are equal?! The same straw man goes for conservative argument against President Obama... because he is African American he must 'hate whites'! because... um... he is president and that is an inspiration for all African Americans and minorities everywhere.

Anyhow, my multicultural history professor (who was African American, BTW and HE went to UCLA law school and had a J.D.) AND my English professor who BTW did teach at UC Davis, agrees with me that racism exists and sexism... it's part of the liberal platform. So if you don't like it argue with my AFRICAN AMERICAN multicultural history professor with his J.D. and UCLA law school education and my English professor who taught at UC Davis.

Argue with them, if you don't like it! (And argue with President Obama, too, of course, and all liberals who want progress and equality)

Anyhow, no evidence. Yes, Jesus didn't say anything about it, to the contrary, the sick should go to physicians!!