IRREFUTABLE proof the Rapture will happen

Marantha said:

If her experience was real, which there is every reason to believe it was; then your response is Blasphemy as Christ Himself showed her the Rapture.

She saw Pope John Paul II there. She lives in a pre-dominantly catholic Country in a pre-dominantly catholic Continent.

She put HER and HER ENTIRE families lives at risk for coming back with the message that this particular Pope is in hell.

And you doubt. It's your choice; so be it.


God Bless you
Marantha

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It's funny that you mention this. When Charles Spurgeon leveled his critique against Darby and Dispensationalism in the 1860s, the Plymouth Brethren immediately began accusing him of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. No new thing amongst the Dispensationalist cultus. Completely expected and typical of those suffering with symptoms of the rapturist disorder.

This ones up there with Mary K Baxter.

Marantha said:

The debate is now OVER. The Rapture WILL HAPPEN Brothers and Sisters, it is now a Christ verified FACT.

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That is if you verify your facts via a charlatan.

Marantha said:

If her experience was real, which there is every reason to believe it was; then your response is Blasphemy as Christ Himself showed her the Rapture.

God Bless you
Marantha

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every reason to believe it why? because you have a predisposed doctrine that you want to continually search validation for.............?

sorry to say it's not real.........because there is no "hell" as you see it............all scriptural referene to hell pertaining to man means the grave where there is nothing happening, there is no knowledge no learning, working, etc..................even God's servants can't even give him praise while in "hell" the grave

the only way back from this state of non existence is by the power of resurrection and that only comes directly from Christ who got the victory over death and the grave

PSALMS 89:48 What man [is he that] liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave? Selah.

Psalms 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

Isa 38:18 For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth.

this "irrefutable proof" that you present is definitely not scriptural

Marantha said:

List what individual part of her testimony you disagree with, so it can be discussed. The events of her testimony that are revealed in the Bible, such as the Marriage Supper of the Lamb TAKING PLACE IN Heaven, are verified true as she saw them by the The Word of God. That is one very small event she sees in her testimony. She was literally DEAD and cold for 23 hours.

All Praise and Glory Be to God
Marantha

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I disagree with her entire testimony. She didn't go to hell and heaven. She's a snake oil salesman.

PreachingChristCrucified said:

I disagree with her entire testimony. She didn't go to hell and heaven. She's a snake oil salesman.

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Correction: her mom is the snake oil salesman, she's just the unwitting, brainwashed pawn/slave.

She saw her dad eating candy and chocolate in heaven. The only question I have left is, who wrote this script? I mean, I'm not even sure a trailer park 700 Club viewer would buy this.

For some reason, this comes to mind when I read this silly thread:

John 20:24-31

New American Standard Bible (NASB)


24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples were saying to him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
26 After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus *came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, “Peace be with you.” 27 Then He *said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.” 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus *said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”
30 Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

I feel so sorry for this poor girl. She's surrounded by and being raised by a bunch of raving, psychotic holy roller kooks who have her so screwed up she can't tell up from down. I bet she hears this rapture garbage 24 hours a day by that superstitious, witch of a mother.

Oh, man...do they ever have her messed up. They're giving her nightmares. Poor girl. The state human services department should really step in on this one. There is no reason for this poor, psychologically abused girl to have to endure such horrid circumstances.

Marantha said:

Thank you for making it clear where you stand, and why you see things as you do. It helps others to understand your intentions.


May God Bless you
Marantha

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You're most certainly welcome. I not only consider it a duty, I consider it a privilege.

Lock the girl's mother in a padded cell, give the girl counseling until she graduates high school and she might just turn out to be a successful and productive human being.

Marantha said:

1disciple,

Please address specific points of disagreement with her testimony if you wish to attempt to discredit it. Saying cruel things about here family is unnecessary.


Glory to Jesus Christ
Marantha

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I have not stated anything cruel. I've stated only what is glaringly obvious to any sane and rational human being.

I'll tell you what is cruel: that this girl is forced to be raised in this household with this psychotic mother, that's cruel. That she is exploited and brainwashed to the point of having her nightmares packaged and sold on the market, that's cruel.

I believe it constitutes psychological abuse. Her mother claims to have knowingly not informed health care professionals when she knew that her daughter had been 'dead' for 23 hours. That's not only irresponsible, it is negligent and should be charged as a felony.

There's something you don't seem to get yet--her mother is NUTS. Understand?

ir·ref·u·ta·ble ( -r f y -t -b l, r -fy -)adj. Impossible to refute or disprove; incontrovertible: irrefutable arguments; irrefutable evidence of guilt.


Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Two words about the OP....OH BOY!!!

Marantha said:

I propose that there are no parts of her testimony with Jesus Christ that can be refuted, or proven to be false.

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You can't prove her correct either.