So you agree that a scripture that implies that it is post is just as valid as one that implies it is pretty?
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i'm not sure what u are asking.
obv there's a distinction
could u ask it in other words/another way?
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why is it relevant?
what if it is a stuffed duck?
our theories should be inclusive of these facts, not dismissive.
all u wanna do is dismiss everything.
I really don't know why u hang out in this section
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The question is how can Noah spend 7 days loading the animals and yet on the selfsame day, Noah, his family and EVERY animal enter the ark. ANSWER............IMPOSSIBLE.
Answer......I don't think the flood represents either the tribulation or the second coming. It represents the wrath of God.
Genesis 7:2-10 shows that Noah spent the seven days before the Flood gathering all the different animals into the ark.
And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.
6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,
9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
My Bible says he went in the ark........and it came to pass AFTER 7DAYS. That would be 7 days AFTER he went in.
My Bible says EVERY animal, Noah and his family entered on the selfsame day. I would say that day would be the day Noah was told to enter the ark, not 7 days later. And spending 7 days to load the ark...... and EVERY animal entering on the same day would be impossible. I think the truth is found by reading verse 9 and 10. Noah went in.....and AFTER 7 DAYS........
The second coming..........or A COMING. There is a difference. We would probably need to understand the Parable of the Fig Tree.
How is it that you can understand this? and understand the fullness of the Gentiles. and cannot see pre trib.
Note: There is a difference between Jesus coming in the clouds and when he comes to set foot on the earth.
The question is how can Noah spend 7 days loading the animals and yet on the selfsame day, Noah, his family and EVERY animal enter the ark. ANSWER............IMPOSSIBLE.
Answer......I don't think the flood represents either the tribulation or the second coming. It represents the wrath of God.
Genesis 7:2-10 shows that Noah spent the seven days before the Flood gathering all the different animals into the ark.
And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.
6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,
9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
My Bible says he went in the ark........and it came to pass AFTER 7DAYS. That would be 7 days AFTER he went in.
My Bible says EVERY animal, Noah and his family entered on the selfsame day. I would say that day would be the day Noah was told to enter the ark, not 7 days later. And spending 7 days to load the ark...... and EVERY animal entering on the same day would be impossible. I think the truth is found by reading verse 9 and 10. Noah went in.....and AFTER 7 DAYS........
The second coming..........or A COMING. There is a difference. We would probably need to understand the Parable of the Fig Tree.
More likely it would represent the fulness of the Gentiles coming in before the 70 th week of Daniel.
How is it that you can understand this? and understand the fullness of the Gentiles. and cannot see pre trib.
Note: There is a difference between Jesus coming in the clouds and when he comes to set foot on the earth.
Note that Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood.
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Genesis 7:13-14 means that the same day that the Flood started (Genesis 7:11), Noah and his family entered the ark for the last time, and all the animals had finished being loaded onto the ark.
What future event are you referring to as the wrath of God, if not the tribulation or the second coming?
Genesis 7:9-10 doesn't say that Noah entered the ark for the last time seven days before the Flood. It just means that he spent the seven days before the Flood binging all the animals into the ark. For Genesis 7:11,13 and Luke 17:27 show that Noah entered the ark for the last time the same day that the Flood started.
No scripture teaches or requires a return of Jesus before his second coming.
The rebudding of the fig tree (Matthew 24:32) can refer to the 1948 reestablishment of Israel, just as Jesus' cursing of the fig tree (Matthew 21:19) was symbolic of his curse on unbelieving, Old Covenant Israel (Matthew 21:43). The Israel that was reestablished in 1948 is the same Old Covenant Israel that Jesus cursed at his first coming, for it still rejects Jesus and still considers itself to be under the Old Covenant. This Israel merely "putting forth leaves" again (Matthew 24:32) in 1948 was nothing more than a restoration to what the fig tree in Matthew 21:19,43 had been before it was cursed forever by Jesus and then destroyed in 70 AD: a tree with leaves, but without any fruit. And the unbelieving, Old Covenant Israel that was reestablished in 1948 may never bear fruit, for it could be destroyed before Jesus' second coming, during a future war, by a Baathist army, just as it had been destroyed in 70 AD by a Roman army.
When Paul says "until the fulness (pleroma) of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25), he means until a full number of genetic Gentile individuals have become saved, which won't happen before the tribulation, but right before Jesus' second coming (Romans 11:26), just as Luke 21:24 shows that "the times of the Gentiles" won't be "fulfilled (pleroo)" until the completion of the treading down of Jerusalem during the future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) (Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5-18) during the second half of the future tribulation of Revelation chapter 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.
Immediately after the tribulation, at Jesus' second coming (Matthew 24:29-30), all the unsaved elect genetic Jews will become saved (Romans 11:26-28) by God's grace when they see the returned Jesus in person and believe in him (Zechariah 12:10-14). And so they will all become part of the church at that time, just as when genetic Jews believe in Jesus now they become part of the church, for there are now no believers outside of the church (Ephesians 4:4-6).
And the genetic Jews who will become believers at the second coming will all become part of the church by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit, who is "the spirit of grace and of supplications" in Zechariah 12:10 (Hebrews 10:29c, Romans 8:26), just as genetic Jewish believers today become part of the church by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit. For it's by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit that both genetic Jewish believers and genetic Gentile believers become part of the church (1 Corinthians 12:13).
Because no scripture teaches or requires a pre-tribulation rapture.
Jesus' coming in the clouds is his second coming (Matthew 24:30), immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29), when he will set his foot on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14).
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Multiple scriptures make clear that Jesus won't come and gather together (rapture) the church until immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8). That's why the marriage of the church doesn't happen until Revelation 19:7, in connection with Jesus' second coming and the bodily resurrection of the church at that time (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16). Matthew 24:30-31 refers to the same second coming of Jesus and gathering together (rapture) of the church as 2 Thessalonians 2:1, which refers to the same second coming of Jesus and catching up together (rapture) of the church as 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17.
Jesus won't return and gather together (rapture) the church until sometime after there's a falling away (an apostasy) in the church, and the Antichrist sits in a third Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaims himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, Daniel 11:31,36, Revelation 11:1-2, Revelation 13:4-8), and the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) is set up in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the third Jewish temple (Matthew 24:15-31, Daniel 11:31). For when Jesus returns to gather together (and marry) the church he will destroy the Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2:1,8, Revelation 19:7,20). Before Jesus returns, the church will have to go through the future, literal 3.5 years of the Antichrist's worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-31).
At Jesus' second coming (1 Thessalonians 4:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:30), the church will be resurrected and caught up together/gathered together (raptured) (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:31), not to remove the church from the earth (Proverbs 10:30, John 17:15,20), but to take the church only as high as the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with the returned Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:17).
At that meeting, Jesus will judge everyone in the church (Psalms 50:3-5, compare Mark 13:27) by their works (2 Corinthians 5:10, Romans 2:6-8, Luke 12:45-48, Matthew 25:19-30). And then Jesus will marry in the clouds the obedient part of the church (Revelation 19:7-8, Matthew 25:1-12), those in the church (of all times) who "overcame" (Revelation 3:5). They will then mount white horses and come back down from the sky (the first heaven) with Jesus (Revelation 19:14) as he defeats the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) and all the unsaved armies of the world (Revelation 19:15-21). Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Revelation 19:9 for the resurrected and married obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isaiah 25:6-9; 1 Corinthians 15:54). Jesus and the obedient part of the church will then reign on the earth for a thousand years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29).
The mistaken idea of a pre-tribulation rapture is dangerous, because when no pre-tribulation rapture occurs, and pre-trib believers begin to suffer in the tribulation, they could think that God has somehow been defeated by Satan, that Satan by his power has caused a pre-trib rapture not to happen despite God wanting one to. Or they could think that God has cruelly broken his (supposed) promise, that he has pulled the rug out from under them, that he cruelly lied to them and must now be laughing at their surprise and suffering (Proverbs 1:26), so that in their rage they could curse God and commit apostasy during the tribulation (Isaiah 8:21-22, Matthew 24:9-13, Matthew 13:21), to the ultimate loss of their salvation (Hebrews 6:4-8, John 15:6; 2 Timothy 2:12).
And even if they instead rightly think, "Okay, we must have just been mistaken in thinking that the rapture was supposed to be pre-trib. Satan hasn't defeated God, and God didn't lie to us", nonetheless, because they had held so strongly to the pre-trib idea for so long, their minds could be completely unprepared to face the long tribulation that lies ahead of them (just as holding too strongly to the mistaken idea of preterism, or historicism, or symbolicism, or spiritualism, could leave some believers less prepared mentally to endure the future tribulation). The Bible gives believers clear warning ahead of time about everything that they're going to have to face during the future tribulation (Mark 13:23, Revelation chapters 6 to 18, Revelation 1:1, Revelation 22:16), so that they can be better prepared mentally not to be blindsided (1 Peter 4:12-13) or deceived by anything that's coming (Matthew 24:4-5,23-25, Revelation 13:13-18, Revelation 19:20), and so that they can be better prepared mentally to endure the future tribulation with patience and faith to the end (Matthew 24:9-13, Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6), that is, until death or until Jesus returns immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:2 to 20:6; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8).
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We can certainly prove he comes back before he sets foot on the earth. I don't feel like looking up the scriptures because it appears no matter what they say you would have trouble accepting it.
This is what I am talking about. You post all these verses like you are proving a point and half the time they do not mean what your are implying. Here you are calling Jacob the Gentiles. Israel is Israel and Jacob is Israel. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Gentiles. Jacobs trouble is Israels trouble............not the Gentiles. They will be long gone, pre trib, like the Bible says.
Roman 11
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Again you post a verse that has nothing to do with what you are saying. There is no mention of the antichrist here. Futher the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled pre trib. The 70 th week of Daniel is when Romans 11:26 gets fulfilled..........and all of Israel will be saved.
Luke 21
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Better study up on the sun moon stars events of the sixth seal.
And yet you have not answer how it is possible for the animals to be loading on the ark for sevens days and yet EVERY animal is loaded in the selfsame day. Bottom line........what you are claiming is IMPOSSIBLE.
The wrath of God is neither the second coming nor the tribulation. You might check the sixth seal.
I know, it says he went in and after 7 days the flood came. However, we can conclude that everyone loaded on the ark on the day he went in because on the same self day, Noah, his family and EVERY animal entered the ark. I am not quite sure why you are having trouble understanding that.
You may claim that's what it says, but you are in error and it is proveable.
We can certainly prove he comes back before he sets foot on the earth. I don't feel like looking up the scriptures because it appears no matter what they say you would have trouble accepting it.
I believe there is more to it than that.
I know.
This is what I am talking about. You post all these verses like you are proving a point and half the time they do not mean what your are implying. Here you are calling Jacob the Gentiles. Israel is Israel and Jacob is Israel. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Gentiles. Jacobs trouble is Israels trouble............not the Gentiles. They will be long gone, pre trib, like the Bible says.
Roman 11
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Again you post a verse that has nothing to do with what you are saying. There is no mention of the antichrist here. Futher the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled pre trib. The 70 th week of Daniel is when Romans 11:26 gets fulfilled..........and all of Israel will be saved.
Luke 21
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. Until you understand that......you are wasting your time.
My only confusion is understanding how you can see this but can't see pre trib.
The Church is gone pre trib when this happens. Notice the Gentile nations come to Israel to go to battle ........the church is gone.
The church is gone pre trib even as Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. And yes we can prove that Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood because Noah, his family and EVERY ANIMAL enter the ark on the self same day.
Actually, there is plenty of proof. You just disregard the scripture such as the above. We both know that it is impossible for EVERY ANIMAL to enter the ark on the selfsame day and take 7 days doing it. You know it is impossible, I know it is impossible, why you choose not to admit the truth, I do not have a clue why you would reject the truth except for RELIGIOUS reasons. Lot's of RELIGION on this board.
Better study up on the sun moon stars events of the sixth seal.
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The answer is that Genesis 7:13-14 means that the same day that the Flood started (Genesis 7:11), Noah and his family entered the ark for the last time, and every animal had finished being loaded onto the ark.
The wrath of God will be at the final stage of the tribulation (Revelation 16), and also subsequently at Jesus' second coming (Revelation 19:15-21).
The tribulation's sixth seal (Revelation 6:12-14) will happen sometime before the day of the Lord (Joel 2:31, Revelation 6:12), whereas the day of the Lord/Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:2) will begin at his second coming (1 Corinthians 1:7-8; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10), which won't happen until Revelation 19:7 to 20:6, immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8). Similarly, the day of the Lord's wrath (Psalms 110:5) won't begin until Jesus' second coming (Revelation 19:19-21).
So the people quoted at the sixth seal (Revelation 6:17), during only the first stage of the tribulation, could be just as mistaken as Job was when Job said that what was happening to him was God's wrath against him (Job 19:11). Just as what was happening to Job was actually Satan's wrath against him, not God's wrath, so the sixth seal could actually be Satan's wrath, not God's wrath. And just as the writer of the book of Job didn't go out of his way to correct Job's mistaken statement in Job 19:11, and just as the apostles John and Matthew didn't go out of their ways to correct the mistaken statements of the people they quoted in John 7:12b and Matthew 27:63a, so the apostle John could have not gone out of his way to correct the statement of the people he quoted in Revelation 6:17.
Actually, that can't be proven, because no scripture teaches or requires a return of Jesus before his second coming.
What's your interpretation of the parable of the fig tree?
How has it been proven that any of the verses that have been referenced don't mean what was said regarding them?
It wasn't said that Romans 11:26 refers to Gentiles getting saved at that time, but that the fulness of the Gentiles won't come in until right before Jesus' second coming in Romans 11:26.
The time of Jacob's trouble which he will be saved out of (Jeremiah 30:7) won't be the entire future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, but only the final pillaging of the Jews in Jerusalem at the very end of the tribulation, right before Jesus returns and saves them (Zechariah 14:2-5). The church, including Gentile believers (Revelation 7:9,14), will be in the tribulation (Matthew 24:9-13, Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6).
Note that nothing in the Bible says that there will be a pre-tribulation rapture of the Gentiles.
Romans 11:26 refers to Jesus' second coming, when all the surviving, elect, unsaved Jews (Romans 11:28-29) will get saved when they see the returned Jesus in person and believe in him (Zechariah 12:10-14).
There doesn't have to be a specific mention of the Antichrist in Luke 21:24 for it to be referring to the same future treading down of Jerusalem by the Gentiles as Revelation 11:2b, during the Antichrist's future, literal 42-month worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18).
Based on what scripture will the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled pre-trib?
Based on what scripture is the tribulation when Romans 11:26 gets fulfilled?
Based on what scripture is the tribulation over at the 6th seal?
Because nothing in the Bible teaches or requires pre-trib.
Based on what scripture is the church gone pre-trib when Romans 11:26 happens?
How does the unsaved Gentile nations coming to Israel to go to battle in Zechariah 14:2 (Revelation 16:14) require that the church is gone? Instead, there will still be people in the church on the earth at that time, still waiting for Jesus' coming as a thief (Revelation 16:15).
Note that nothing requires that Noah entered the ark for the last time 7 days before the Flood, just as nothing requires a pre-trib rapture.
Revelation 6:12-13 and Matthew 24:29-31 are two different sets of events. For Revelation 6:12-13 will occur during only the first stage of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, whereas Matthew 24:29-31 (like Revelation 19:7-21, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, and 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) will occur immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29). Also, when Revelation 6:12-13 occurs, the moon's light will appear blood-red, whereas when Matthew 24:29 occurs, the moon's light won't be seen at all. There will also be one point between the time of Revelation 6:12-13 and the time of Matthew 24:29 when the moon's light will temporarily not be seen at all, during a third of the night (Revelation 8:12).
Also, the sun appearing to be darkened in Revelation 6:12-13 will be only the first time during the tribulation that something like that will happen. For it will happen again during the fourth trumpet (part of the tribulation's second stage), for a third of the day (Revelation 8:12), and then again during the fifth trumpet (Revelation 9:2), and then again during the fifth vial (Revelation 16:10), part of the tribulation's fourth and final stage, the third stage being the literal 3.5-year time period of the Antichrist's worldwide reign (which time period is shown from four different angles in Revelation chapters 11-14). Also, what will appear like "stars" falling from the sky in Revelation 6:12-13 will be only the first time during the tribulation that something like that will happen. For subsequently, during the third trumpet, what will appear like a star will fall from the sky (Revelation 8:10-11), and then again during the fifth trumpet (Revelation 9:1). And then again, mid-tribulation, what will appear like stars will descend from the sky (Revelation 12:4).
Revelation chapters 6 to 22 are chronological, insofar as the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 will begin with the events of the second through sixth seals, occurring in the order shown in Revelation 6:3-14. After the events of the sixth seal, Revelation 7 will occur. Then the seventh seal will be unsealed and out of it will come the tribulation's seven trumpets (Revelation 8:1-6). Then the events of the first six trumpets in Revelation 8:7 to Revelation 9:21 will occur in the order shown there. Then Revelation 10 will occur. Then the literal 3.5 years of the Antichrist's worldwide reign will occur, which time period is shown from four different angles in Revelation chapters 11 to 14 (Revelation 11:2b-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 14:9-13).
Then the seventh trumpet will sound, announcing the legal end of the Antichrist's reign (Revelation 11:15). Out of the seventh trumpet's heavenly temple opening will come the seven plagues of the seven vials (Revelation 11:19, Revelation 15:5 to 16:1), the tribulation's final stage. Then the events of the seven vials will occur in the order shown in Revelation 16. Jesus will return right after the seventh vial (Revelation 16:17,19, Revelation 19:2-21), and he will marry the church at that time (Revelation 19:7). Then he will defeat the unsaved world (Revelation 19:11 to 20:3), and he will reign on the earth with the bodily resurrected church for a thousand years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29). Then the events of Revelation 20:7 to Revelation 22:5 will occur in the order shown there.
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I'm here because I think there is a lot of education to do. If I sound dismissive it is because very basic beliefs of the apostles are missing, overlooked, dismissed!, and people here think they have knowledge.
To put the problem another way: futurism, dispensationalism and Judaism alike miss the center of NT eschatology, pretty much for the same reason and with the same interpretive technique of literalism.
For ex., futurism thinks it has a proper category about Gentiles being saved now to a certain point in time in Lk 21 and Rom 11, at which everything switches back to dealings with Jews and them being saved. There is nothing like this in the NT, and the phrasing of neither passage, apart from the misquitoes of futurism buzzing in our face, would be rendered that way.
Speaking of dismissive, I have 3 posts in the forum recently and no one asks a question or makes a comment about them!
As for the northern tribes nonsense, there is nothing even close to what they are about in the NT. It is a misunderstanding based on futurism, although mistaken in a different direction than most of it, to try to compensate for mssing the category which the NT actually works in: belief (the mark of the New Israel) vs. unbelief (the world)
I'm here because I think there is a lot of education to do. If I sound dismissive it is because very basic beliefs of the apostles are missing, overlooked, dismissed!, and people here think they have knowledge.
To put the problem another way: futurism, dispensationalism and Judaism alike miss the center of NT eschatology, pretty much for the same reason and with the same interpretive technique of literalism.
For ex., futurism thinks it has a proper category about Gentiles being saved now to a certain point in time in Lk 21 and Rom 11, at which everything switches back to dealings with Jews and them being saved. There is nothing like this in the NT, and the phrasing of neither passage, apart from the misquitoes of futurism buzzing in our face, would be rendered that way.
Speaking of dismissive, I have 3 posts in the forum recently and no one asks a question or makes a comment about them!
As for the northern tribes nonsense, there is nothing even close to what they are about in the NT. It is a misunderstanding based on futurism, although mistaken in a different direction than most of it, to try to compensate for mssing the category which the NT actually works in: belief (the mark of the New Israel) vs. unbelief (the world)
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"There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer" (Romans 11:26) refers to the second coming, when the unsaved elect Jews will get saved when they see the returned Jesus in person (Zechariah 12:10-14).
No significance should be read into the fact that the specific word "church" is mentioned many times in Revelation chapters 1-3, but not mentioned again until Revelation 22, just as no significance should be read into the fact that the specific word "church" is mentioned many times in Romans 16, but not mentioned in Romans chapters 1 to 15. The reason that the word "church" is mentioned many times in Revelation chapters 1-3 is because those chapters refer to seven literal, first century AD local church congregations in seven cities in the Roman province of "Asia" (Revelation 1:11).
The church, in the general sense, will definitely be in the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, for believers will definitely be in it (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4, Matthew 24:9-13), and there are now no believers outside of the church (Ephesians 4:4-6). Also, just as the mistaken, pre-tribulation rapture view admits that Revelation 19 includes references to the church without using the specific word "church", so it should admit that Revelation chapters 6 to 18 can include references to the church without using the specific word "church".
Matthew 24:44, like Matthew 24:36,42, refers to Jesus' second coming (Matthew 24:37,42,44), which Jesus had just finished saying won't happen until immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31). So in Matthew 24:42,44, Jesus can mean that only if believers don't watch (stay awake, spiritually) during the tribulation, the second coming will happen at an hour they don't know/think not (compare the if principle of Revelation 3:3b). In the context of Matthew 24:36,42,44, Jesus suggests that it is possible for believers to know when the second coming will occur and to watch for it (Matthew 24:43-44a; 1 Thessalonians 5:4).
Also, Jesus says "of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36), he doesn't say "of that day and hour no man will know". So it's possible that at some point in the future, some believers will come to know the date (as in the year, month, and day) of the second coming before it happens. Also, if we mistakenly think that Jesus can come today or tomorrow (as is sometimes claimed by the pre-tribulation and symbolicist views), then how can we also claim that he will come when nobody thinks he will (Matthew 24:44)?
Also, compare the following: "of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36), "the things of God knoweth no man" (1 Corinthians 2:11). If we claim that the first verse means that no man will ever know the date of the second coming until it happens, then to be consistent we would have to also claim that the second verse means that no man, not even believers, can know the things of God until the second coming. But who would say that? For the Holy Spirit can currently reveal to believers the things of God (1 Corinthians 2:12-13). He can currently guide them into all truth and show them what will happen in the future (John 16:13), including the date of the second coming. For, again, Jesus suggests that it is possible for believers to know when the second coming will occur and to watch for it (Matthew 24:43-44a; 1 Thessalonians 5:4). Also, what Amos 3:7 says would include the second coming: Surely God the Father won't send Jesus back without having first revealed to some believers the secret of the date of the second coming.
Jesus could return on the 1,335th day after the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) is set up in a third Jewish temple (Daniel 12:11-12, Revelation 16:15, Daniel 11:31,36, Matthew 24:15).
In Revelation 10:7, "finished" in the original Greek is "teleo" (G5055), which can mean "performed" (Luke 2:39). Revelation 10:7 means that the prophetic writings regarding the tribulation will finish being performed at the seventh trumpet of the tribulation. For out of the seventh trumpet's heavenly temple opening will come the final stage of the tribulation, the seven plagues of the seven vials of God's wrath (Revelation 11:19, Revelation 15:5 to 16:1).
In Revelation 10:7, the "mystery" is currently known by the church, just as the "mystery" in Romans 16:25-26 and Colossians 1:26 is currently known by the church. For the mystery in Revelation 10:7 has already been "declared to his servants the prophets" (Revelation 10:7), just as the "mystery" in Romans 16:25-26 and Colossians 1:26 is already "made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets" (Romans 16:26).
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