A number of Christians don't support universal healthcare, so this doesn't help your point. If you are arguing that Martin Luther King is more credible because of his accomplishments then that is an "appeal to accomplishment" fallacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment
Actually, it's called appeal to ETHOS, which is part of three divisions of rhetoric: "Ethos, Pathos, and Logos."
"Ethos (Greek for 'character') refers to the trustworthiness or credibility of the writer or speaker. Ethos is often conveyed through tone and style of the message and through the way the writer or speaker refers to differing views. It can also be affected by the writer's reputation as it exists independently from the message--his or her expertise in the field, his or her previous record or integrity, and so forth. T
he impact of ethos is often called the argument's 'ethical appeal' or the 'appeal from credibility.' " Ethos, Pathos, and LogosEthos: the source's credibility, the speaker's/author's authority
Logos: the logic used to support a claim (induction and deduction); can also be the facts and statistics used to help support the argument.
Pathos: the emotional or motivational appeals; vivid language, emotional language and numerous sensory details.
If they claim to follow Jesus's, who is God, commandments to heal the sick, give to the poor, give to the needy... Then it appears to me they may be following ___ianity (insert whomever or whatever here, perhaps a person
other than Jesus, who is God, or worshiping inanimate objects while
heinously trashing human life as worth less), as they are deliberately ignoring Jesus's, God's commandments to give to the poor, the needy, the sick, and the destitute.
"I am going to start with Mark Chapter 10:21-25 21Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," He said.
"Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22At this the man's face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Jesus looked around and said to His disciples,
"How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”
24The disciples were amazed at His words. But Jesus said again, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!
25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Moving on to the next area that might prove my point and which certainly has a few feathers ruffling today; that of health care or in this case Jesus Healing those in need. He certainly didn’t seem to pay much attention to the conventions of the time, like oh say working on the Sabbath, which got Him into a few bits of trouble with the powers that be. Nonetheless, heal He did without concern or consideration for pre-existing conditions or whose toes He was stepping on Jesus made His way through the land healing leprosy, epilepsy, and other dastardly illnesses that afflicted the people. The Pharisees, although the ruling class within the temple at the time and thus in control of wealth, law, and healing could not prevent Him from teaching or healing, even on the Sabbath.
There are many examples of this sprinkled throughout the New Testament, here are just a few: Matthew 4:23, 9:35, 17:14
Mark 7:31, 8:22
John 9:1-41
Now to one of the best proofs and that is found in Matthew 25:31-46.
For those that don’t know this one the key statement is as follows:
41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' 44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45"He will reply,
'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46"
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life”.
Because many rich people are uncharitable, but that does not give us a license to steal from them and give to the poor.
You are treating them unequally, which is against the commandments. You are giving to the rich, which I have shown is considered wicked (see previous quotes, I believe I bolded them).
Further, "Are you not more valuable than they?" clearly demonstrates that Jesus, who is God, states the law is that humans are worth more than animals, and therefore, more than objects.
James found in 2:1-7: 1My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don't show favoritism. 2Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. 3If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, "Here's a good seat for you," but say to the poor man, "You stand there" or "Sit on the floor by my feet," 4have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
5Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom He promised those who love Him? 6But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of Him to whom you belong?
The rich are slandering Jesus's, God's name, according to James. They are exploiting Jesus's, God's followers and dragging them into court, persecuting them. People are to recieve equal treatment and quality, otherwise they are being discriminated against unjustly.
Jesus, who is God, owns all of the money.
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine," declares the LORD Almighty (Haggai 2:8).
The people on this earth do not "own" anything as Jesus, God, owns everything in heaven and on earth. If you are truly a believer you know that all of these possessions in this world will not go with people into heaven.
A person's life is worth more than those items which don't, truly, belong to them as all is owned by Jesus, who is God, not them. To stand by and let others die needlessly for possessions is heinous and criminal. It is discriminatory and exploitation. Jesus, who is God, states there is a right to life and a right to health. You better believe people should take priority over items, which belong to Jesus, who is God, who owns all the money, not them. Those are the commandments.
You cannot have a right to someone else's services because that requires the government to use force to ensure this right, which is violence. Rights come from God and do not require the existence of doctors. You have a right to your life and your liberty, not the life and liberty of doctors at a nearby hospital.
So if I take it correctly, you are saying that you would rather be violent and spread blood then make it a law to help those who are dieing? So... if a person was struggling to live right next to you, struggling to breathe e.g., and they didn't have the funds, but a person right next to them had the funds to send them to receive the medical care they needed, you would rather murder then let that person live by requiring that person to give to them what they needed?
I see where your priorities are - murder and inequality. "“But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. " Luke 6:24
The concept of "papers" for identification is created by governments. If government were smaller and there was no concept of "identification papers", it would be between the doctors and the patients, no identification required.
Jesus was for a larger government - a government which abides by His laws (which would include giving to the sick, the needy, and the poor).
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and
the government shall be on His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The
mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this." Isiah 9:6-7
None of these quotes support a system of using other peoples' money to help the poor. Jesus told the rich man to give all he had to the poor. He did not tell his disciples to steal from the rich man to buy healthcare for the poor.
Do you not know that Jesus, who is God's form in the flesh as a theophany as PERFECT, sinless example to follow,
paid taxes and commanded others to do so?
In Matthew 17:24-27 we learn that Jesus did indeed pay taxes:
Matthew 17:24-27King James Version (KJV)
24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee."
The Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke each tell of another account, when the Pharisees tried to trap Jesus in His words, and find a reason to accuse Him. In
Matthew 22:15-22 we read:
"15Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle Him in his talk.
16And they sent out to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that you are true, and teach the way of God in truth, neither care you for any man: for you regard not the person of men.
17Tell us therefore, What think you? Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?
18But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt you me, you hypocrites?
19Show me the tribute money. And they brought to Him a penny.
20And He said to them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21They say to Him, Caesar's. Then said He to them, Render therefore to Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."
Jesus's, God's words.
Jesus, who is God, paid taxes and told others to do so. Jesus, God, owns all of the money on earth, and He is to "have the government on His shoulders" so His words and commandments are to be followed with regard to these taxes He tells us to pay -- meaning, giving to the poor, the sick, and the needy.
We have the right to our own life, not the lives of physicians. Jesus never said we should steal from the rich to pay doctors to heal the poor.
Jesus, who is God, paid taxes and told others to do so. To me, you are acting like the scribes and leaders in this parable by refusing to help the sick, poor, and needy with those taxes:
"8But He knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the middle. And he arose and stood forth.
9Then said Jesus to them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?
10And looking round about on them all, He said to the man, Stretch forth your hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
11And they were filled with madness; and communed one with another what they might do to Jesus. "
Jesus's, God's words, Luke 6:8-11
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