For converts from Protestantism:

Gnarwhal

☩ Broman Catholic ☩
Oct 31, 2008
20,373
12,069
36
N/A
✟423,573.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Libertarian
Do/did any of you struggle with a triumphalist attitude? I find myself with an ever-growing disdain for many things, and some of those things I know aren't bad (like reading the Scriptures). It's just that whenever someone says to me something along the lines of "you should really read the word" or "I just need the word" I cringe. I get the same response when someone tries to share their personal interpretation of a Scripture or someone else's private interpretation, or when I hear pop music passed off as Christian music or worship. I'll stop before I I get too riled up.

If anyone has struggled with that, how did you deal with it?

It's beginning to erode me, especially since my wife still tries to show me a lot of Protestant stuff but in anything but enthusiastic to hear it.

Please consider me in your prayers, I desperately need Gods help with this, I think it would make a world of difference the more I pursue Catholicism, thanks friends.
 

Sword of the Lord

In need of a physician.
Dec 29, 2012
13,957
7,530
Not in Heaven yet
✟143,461.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
Yes, I can't stand to here or listen to Protestant church services. It's all fake to me, and the pop music, rock concert feel is horrendous. I can't stand to listen to a Protestant speaker, with their fake soft voices. There are many things about Protestantism I can't stand.

However...

Reading the Bible isn't one of them. Catholicism is largely Bible based. God wants you in his word. I think the fact that you're put off by it isn't so much a Protestant thing, but a demonic thing. Satan wants you out of that word. To be put off or disgusted by it is... Well, way off base. You're almost subtley agreeing with Protestants when they say Catholics don't read the Bible or that Catholics don't care about it. Not on purpose I'm sure, but still.
 
Upvote 0

Ave Maria

Ave Maria Gratia Plena
May 31, 2004
41,082
1,968
41
Diocese of Evansville, IN
✟106,997.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Yes, I can't stand to here or listen to Protestant church services. It's all fake to me, and the pop music, rock concert feel is horrendous. I can't stand to listen to a Protestant speaker, with their fake soft voices. There are many things about Protestantism I can't stand.

However...

Reading the Bible isn't one of them. Catholicism is largely Bible based. God wants you in his word. I think the fact that you're put off by it isn't so much a Protestant thing, but a demonic thing. Satan wants you out of that word. To be put off or disgusted by it is... Well, way off base. You're almost subtley agreeing with Protestants when they say Catholics don't read the Bible or that Catholics don't care about it. Not on purpose I'm sure, but still.

I am the same way. I don't know if you are a convert to Catholicism or not but I am. I converted to Catholicism in 2006. Ever since then I have mostly had a disdain for Protestant services. Protestant televangelists especially turn me off. I think the reason for all of this is because I now know the Truth. I know that Catholicism teaches the fullness of the Truth and so when I recognize false doctrine being preached or something I don't like it because I know what the consequences of false doctrine being preached can be.
 
Upvote 0

Catherineanne

Well-Known Member
Sep 1, 2004
22,924
4,645
Europe
✟76,860.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Anglican
Marital Status
Widowed
Do/did any of you struggle with a triumphalist attitude? I find myself with an ever-growing disdain for many things, and some of those things I know aren't bad (like reading the Scriptures). It's just that whenever someone says to me something along the lines of "you should really read the word" or "I just need the word" I cringe. I get the same response when someone tries to share their personal interpretation of a Scripture or someone else's private interpretation, or when I hear pop music passed off as Christian music or worship. I'll stop before I I get too riled up.

If anyone has struggled with that, how did you deal with it?

It's beginning to erode me, especially since my wife still tries to show me a lot of Protestant stuff but in anything but enthusiastic to hear it.

Please consider me in your prayers, I desperately need Gods help with this, I think it would make a world of difference the more I pursue Catholicism, thanks friends.

Tastes change. Things we like when we are young we might well not like so much when we are older; this goes for food, clothing, music; all sorts of things. Some stand the test of time, some do not.

I am not fond of Christian 'worship' music; once I was happy enough to listen to it, and even buy some of it. Now I would not. I am not fond of Christian literature; once I used to buy books that were recommended to me as containing great testimony; now I would not.

I am not sure this is triumphalism. We all change over time. As long as you can accept that some people still like that stuff, it is not a problem that you don't really see the appeal.
 
Upvote 0
M

Memento Mori

Guest
Do/did any of you struggle with a triumphalist attitude? I find myself with an ever-growing disdain for many things, and some of those things I know aren't bad (like reading the Scriptures). It's just that whenever someone says to me something along the lines of "you should really read the word" or "I just need the word" I cringe. I get the same response when someone tries to share their personal interpretation of a Scripture or someone else's private interpretation, or when I hear pop music passed off as Christian music or worship. I'll stop before I I get too riled up.

If anyone has struggled with that, how did you deal with it?

It's beginning to erode me, especially since my wife still tries to show me a lot of Protestant stuff but in anything but enthusiastic to hear it.

Please consider me in your prayers, I desperately need Gods help with this, I think it would make a world of difference the more I pursue Catholicism, thanks friends.

I understand your frustration with those "lines" you get. My immediate reaction is always impatience, because those kinds of statements are never really well-thought-out, and yet they almost always seem to come across in a very self-satisfied manner. The important thing, I think, is to remember that these are just human foibles, and we've all got those.

It's definitely a challenge to really see the people around us and all their faults and silliness and to still be sweet, patient, meek, etc. I will let you know if I discover the secret. :) (But I suspect it has something to do with being genuinely humble, and that's a bigger challenge in itself.)
 
Upvote 0

zaida

Newbie
Dec 14, 2011
406
17
✟8,219.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
keep reminding yourself that everyone is at a different stage in their journey. And many people have had their lives change positively and beautifully through various aspects for the Protestant faith. They are our brethren! Keep praying on it. And good for you, for seeing your issue and wanting to change your attitude. That shows strength!
 
Upvote 0

LottyH

Junior Member
Mar 29, 2013
407
22
Perth
✟8,167.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Do/did any of you struggle with a triumphalist attitude? I find myself with an ever-growing disdain for many things, and some of those things I know aren't bad (like reading the Scriptures). It's just that whenever someone says to me something along the lines of "you should really read the word" or "I just need the word" I cringe. I get the same response when someone tries to share their personal interpretation of a Scripture or someone else's private interpretation, or when I hear pop music passed off as Christian music or worship. I'll stop before I I get too riled up.

If anyone has struggled with that, how did you deal with it?

It's beginning to erode me, especially since my wife still tries to show me a lot of Protestant stuff but in anything but enthusiastic to hear it.

Please consider me in your prayers, I desperately need Gods help with this, I think it would make a world of difference the more I pursue Catholicism, thanks friends.


What you are perceiving is fake Christianity and when you've had a gutful of it even 'read the bible' sounds like a cliché to you. If what you are going through is from God you will find it in all denominations. Sometimes its good to throw everything out and start again, just you, God and the bible, and get down to the nuts and bolts about what its all about, that's what I did. Sorry if that made you cringe :)
 
Upvote 0

Colin

Senior Veteran
Jun 9, 2010
11,093
6,889
✟122,403.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
UK - SNP
Tastes change.

That is certainly true . :)

Now I prefer an early Sunday morning Eucharist .

Simple . No hymns . plenty of quiet .

When I was younger I would be all for more exuberance and enthusiasm in the liturgy , not that these things are not present more interiorly within quietness .
 
Upvote 0

Rhamiel

Member of the Round Table
Nov 11, 2006
41,182
9,432
ohio
✟241,111.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Single
I am not a convert, but I think I know what you are talking about

first off, say this
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner"

now, say that about 51,873 more times

Remember that some things are just a matter of taste

your post did get me thinking, is not Christianity " triumphalist" in itself?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Starlightsobright

Jesus is Love
Aug 2, 2011
5,437
420
✟14,780.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
That is certainly true . :)

Now I prefer an early Sunday morning Eucharist .

Simple . No hymns . plenty of quiet .

When I was younger I would be all for more exuberance and enthusiasm in the liturgy , not that these things are not present more interiorly within quietness .

Same here. We have hymns at the night Mass on a Sunday but without music or a choir and it's e a whole new experience.
 
Upvote 0

ZaidaBoBaida

When do I stop being a Newbie?
Jul 17, 2012
1,962
631
Right Here
✟50,680.00
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
I went to the 7:30 am Mass yesterday (which was packed) and there was absolutely no singing. They read the hymns which I thought was kind of funny, but my Quaker self also liked it. At the 9:00 Mass, they sing too much. They sing the responses. They sing the Our Father - which strikes me as irreverant.
 
Upvote 0

Colin

Senior Veteran
Jun 9, 2010
11,093
6,889
✟122,403.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
UK - SNP
Same here. We have hymns at the night Mass on a Sunday but without music or a choir and it's e a whole new experience.

I do not have a musical voice . :)

I find it much easier to sing in church when the only music comes from the voices of the people . The organ always seems to be pitched too high for me .
Also without accompaniment I find myself listening to the sung words , and they are more meaningful .
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

MoreCoffee

Repentance works.
Jan 8, 2011
29,850
2,841
Near the flying spaghetti monster
✟57,848.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
Do/did any of you struggle with a triumphalist attitude? I find myself with an ever-growing disdain for many things, and some of those things I know aren't bad (like reading the Scriptures). It's just that whenever someone says to me something along the lines of "you should really read the word" or "I just need the word" I cringe. I get the same response when someone tries to share their personal interpretation of a Scripture or someone else's private interpretation, or when I hear pop music passed off as Christian music or worship. I'll stop before I I get too riled up.

If anyone has struggled with that, how did you deal with it?

It's beginning to erode me, especially since my wife still tries to show me a lot of Protestant stuff but in anything but enthusiastic to hear it.

Please consider me in your prayers, I desperately need Gods help with this, I think it would make a world of difference the more I pursue Catholicism, thanks friends.

I guess there's always a temptation to reject everything (or most things) in one's past religion when one is converting to a new religion or has recently converted. It is important to try to maintain balance. Most of the things you knew in your protestant religion are still true in your newly acquired Catholic faith.

There's a useful document you would benefit from reading. It is one of the documents of the second Vatican council. It is called UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO (DECREE ON ECUMENISM). You can read it online at the Vatican web site, here. Read it a piece at a time, pray as you think about what it says. I do. It helps to ground me in the faith and it helps me to pray for our separated brethren.
 
Upvote 0

mark46

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Jan 29, 2010
20,042
4,720
✟830,515.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
Protestantism has all the worship styles. It is not limited to rock bands and contemporary worship.

I understand that some folks prefer no music. Most Catholic churches have one weekend service to fit your needs. The other 90% of the congregation wants hymns. Some even want contemporary worship with a guitar and keyboard, probably as many as want no music.

I would note that singing and chants have been a part of the liturgy for a very long time.
 
Upvote 0

WarriorAngel

I close my eyes and see you smile
Supporter
Apr 11, 2005
72,739
9,305
United States Pennsylvania
Visit site
✟428,486.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
I think i understand what you are unable to put into terms...correct me tho if i err.

You are turned off by 'Bible reading' - as in interpreting for yourself - its not disdain of the scriptures - but the self imposed ideas ppl put into what it means.
You are correct tho - to use the ancient understanding of it - to guide you. After all - that's what the Eunuch wanted too.

When ppl have the veil lifted - and grace comes over them in a unique way - the Lord revealing His ancient Church's old truths - it does become hard to listen to 'opnions' - now you have received understanding you no longer have 'itchy' ears for erroneous techings.
The Holy Spirit is showing you the errors and it becomes repulsive to the soul... because it's incorrect and is unreal.

Tho i never experienced conversion - i did reversion. I find it difficult [after 20 or so years] - to hear opinions - when the tools of the ancient teaching is apparent.

My tastes do not change - i am not fickle in most things. But as far as music - i adapt so long as it helps center or ground me to thinking of the Lord.
Pop music is ok - when driving down the road - i wouldnt like it in church at all.
 
Upvote 0

WarriorAngel

I close my eyes and see you smile
Supporter
Apr 11, 2005
72,739
9,305
United States Pennsylvania
Visit site
✟428,486.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
The Holy Spirit is showing you the errors and it becomes repulsive to the soul... because it's incorrect and is unreal.

Adding - this is how the Holy Spirit worked in councils and fighting heresy... too.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Michie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Feb 5, 2002
165,509
55,201
Woods
✟4,584,813.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Do/did any of you struggle with a triumphalist attitude? I find myself with an ever-growing disdain for many things, and some of those things I know aren't bad (like reading the Scriptures). It's just that whenever someone says to me something along the lines of "you should really read the word" or "I just need the word" I cringe. I get the same response when someone tries to share their personal interpretation of a Scripture or someone else's private interpretation, or when I hear pop music passed off as Christian music or worship. I'll stop before I I get too riled up.

If anyone has struggled with that, how did you deal with it?

It's beginning to erode me, especially since my wife still tries to show me a lot of Protestant stuff but in anything but enthusiastic to hear it.

Please consider me in your prayers, I desperately need Gods help with this, I think it would make a world of difference the more I pursue Catholicism, thanks friends.
For me, not really. The only thing that got to me was the end times stuff & OSAS.

I'm very grateful for my protestant background for all it's good qualities I feel spiritually richer for. Scripture being #1. :p

They gave me the hunger or it.

I get irritated but I don't see it as being triumphant over them. We both claim Christ as Savior, we are just in different places in our journey.

Prayers for you!
 
Upvote 0