My perspective of my SDA cousins (Question about baptism)

PeterVonVerkannt · Feb 5, 2013

As I grew up, one of the first things I saw that was different from my father's family is that they were adventist. When I was 6 they would wait until like 6 PM to turn on the Nintendo and they didn't eat certain things like pork chops.

During my teenage I would sometimes go to their SDA church's satuday morning service, mostly to avoid being compelled to go at my mother's baptist church on sunday morning and to hang out with them. All my cousins(once removed) were baptised during the same service, at the end of an evangelistic seminar about the Book of Revelation by strong recommendations from their parents..

6 years later, all I can say is that I don't feel that they really have a spiritual relationship. On the 6 of them, 4 are still active in the church (mostly because of their friends and by the fact that the young adults are responsible of the multimedia and the worship music). I feel that they are in the SDA church because they were born into it and that's the way to go: they got their slot to feel and that's it. I can honestly say that I got more practical knowledge of the New Testament than they do, but anyways...I got a question for the born and raised SDAs here:

Did you feel some parental pressure to get baptised or the decision was entirely yours ? I feel like the Seventh-day Adventist rites of passage is kinda similar to the Catholics, if I take account of my experience. Maybe it is just a carribean thing but I'm just curious.

OldStudent · Feb 11, 2013

I was raised in "the faith." Most all of my education was in the system. I didn't sense pressure from my parents toward baptism. Peer pressure and a somewhat pushy preachers wife did the trick.

But I have always been a little off beat. One quirk of that is that I have always taken the "covenant" idea rather seriously. Having taken the covenant implied in baptism I tended to hang in there. Now 50 years or so later I readily say it was all a good move. I have come to consider that no other "brand" of Christianity makes more sense or brings more tasty dishes to the table for cause, effect, reasons for things.

JDMiowa · Apr 3, 2013

OldStudent said:
I was raised in "the faith." Most all of my education was in the system. I didn't sense pressure from my parents toward baptism. Peer pressure and a somewhat pushy preachers wife did the trick.

But I have always been a little off beat. One quirk of that is that I have always taken the "covenant" idea rather seriously. Having taken the covenant implied in baptism I tended to hang in there. Now 50 years or so later I readily say it was all a good move. I have come to consider that no other "brand" of Christianity makes more sense or brings more tasty dishes to the table for cause, effect, reasons for things.

Can you share any "new light" the SDA church is teaching now it did not teach 50 years age? :idea:

Light will come to God's people, and those who have sought to close the door will either repent or be removed out of the way. The time has come when a new impetus must be given to the work. There are terrible scenes before us, and Satan is seeking to keep from our knowledge the very things that God would have us know. God has messengers and messages for his people. If ideas are presented that differ in some points from our former doctrines, we must not condemn them without diligent search of the Bible to see if they are true. We must fast and pray and search the Scriptures as did the noble Bereans, to see if these things are so. We must accept every ray of light that comes to us. Through earnest prayer and diligent study of God's word, dark things will be made plain to the understanding. ST, May 26, 1890 par. 12 . :idea:

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Adventist Heretic · Apr 5, 2013

PeterVonVerkannt said:
As I grew up, one of the first things I saw that was different from my father's family is that they were adventist. When I was 6 they would wait until like 6 PM to turn on the Nintendo and they didn't eat certain things like pork chops.

During my teenage I would sometimes go to their SDA church's satuday morning service, mostly to avoid being compelled to go at my mother's baptist church on sunday morning and to hang out with them. All my cousins(once removed) were baptised during the same service, at the end of an evangelistic seminar about the Book of Revelation by strong recommendations from their parents..

6 years later, all I can say is that I don't feel that they really have a spiritual relationship. On the 6 of them, 4 are still active in the church (mostly because of their friends and by the fact that the young adults are responsible of the multimedia and the worship music). I feel that they are in the SDA church because they were born into it and that's the way to go: they got their slot to feel and that's it. I can honestly say that I got more practical knowledge of the New Testament than they do, but anyways...I got a question for the born and raised SDAs here:

Did you feel some parental pressure to get baptised or the decision was entirely yours ? I feel like the Seventh-day Adventist rites of passage is kinda similar to the Catholics, if I take account of my experience. Maybe it is just a carribean thing but I'm just curious.

the younger generation has a different form of adventism then prior generations. starting in mid 1980's the chruch started de-emphising its unique doctrinces and borrowing more of the evanglical teaching and approach

JDMiowa · Apr 5, 2013

How is it different? Change can be good or bad.

Sophia7 · Apr 17, 2013

PeterVonVerkannt said:
As I grew up, one of the first things I saw that was different from my father's family is that they were adventist. When I was 6 they would wait until like 6 PM to turn on the Nintendo and they didn't eat certain things like pork chops.

During my teenage I would sometimes go to their SDA church's satuday morning service, mostly to avoid being compelled to go at my mother's baptist church on sunday morning and to hang out with them. All my cousins(once removed) were baptised during the same service, at the end of an evangelistic seminar about the Book of Revelation by strong recommendations from their parents..

6 years later, all I can say is that I don't feel that they really have a spiritual relationship. On the 6 of them, 4 are still active in the church (mostly because of their friends and by the fact that the young adults are responsible of the multimedia and the worship music). I feel that they are in the SDA church because they were born into it and that's the way to go: they got their slot to feel and that's it. I can honestly say that I got more practical knowledge of the New Testament than they do, but anyways...I got a question for the born and raised SDAs here:

Did you feel some parental pressure to get baptised or the decision was entirely yours ? I feel like the Seventh-day Adventist rites of passage is kinda similar to the Catholics, if I take account of my experience. Maybe it is just a carribean thing but I'm just curious.

I'm not an Adventist anymore, but I was raised Adventist. I was baptized at age 10, and it was completely my decision; there was no parental pressure to do so. I know some Adventists who had different experiences and who did feel pressured, by parents or teachers or peers, into baptism, but that wasn't my experience in Adventism.

Airdude · May 2, 2013

I was born, raised, and educated in the SDA church. I left the church a few years ago and now enjoy fellowship in a Non-denominational church. I was baptized at age 12 in the SDA church with a lot of pressure to do so from my parents and teachers. It seemed as though it was expected of every child in the church when they reach the age of 12.

AndrewK788 · May 7, 2013

I was born and raised in the SDA church. I also attended SDA grade school and academy before venturing out of the Adventist education system to attend a state university where I earned my bachelors degree. I was baptized when I was 11. Though there was some pressure to do so, I would label it enthusiastic encouragement. The end result was I was baptized, but didn't even fully grasp what it symbolized until many years later. On May 8, 2010, I was re-baptized and could not be happier. As for me, I am an active member in my local SDA church. Most would probably label me a conservative/traditional Adventist too.

Esdra · May 11, 2013

AndrewK788 said:
I was born and raised in the SDA church. I also attended SDA grade school and academy before venturing out of the Adventist education system to attend a state university where I earned my bachelors degree. I was baptized when I was 11. Though there was some pressure to do so, I would label it enthusiastic encouragement. The end result was I was baptized, but didn't even fully grasp what it symbolized until many years later. On May 8, 2010, I was re-baptized and could not be happier. As for me, I am an active member in my local SDA church. Most would probably label me a conservative/traditional Adventist too.

Why were you rebaptized, when you already were baptised at the age of 11?
I thought you're only baptised once, even in the SDA church?

AndrewK788 · May 15, 2013

Esdra said:
Why were you rebaptized, when you already were baptised at the age of 11?
I thought you're only baptised once, even in the SDA church?

Because when I was baptized the first time, I did it more because my friends were doing it. I really didn't understand what it symbolized at all. Thus, I chose later in life that I wanted to make that public recommitmment. And we are only baptized once in the SDA church. In my mind, the first baptism wasn't really a baptism. After all, the water isn't a magic spell--it's about a choice from the heart in surrendering to God and Him working in you. And the first time I didn't make that choice mainly because I didn't understand any of it.

Amisk Dolcy · Jan 11, 2014

I am not an Adventist, however having read this thread I been wondering about why a Adventist is baptized.

Are you baptized in order to gain salvation?

The Bible teaches that Christians should be baptized, however my understanding is that a sinner who has not repented of his sin first merely goes into the waters of Baptism a dry sinner and comes out a wet one.

It is important that one repents of his sin and asks God to forgive his sins and then seeks baptism. Is that also the Adventist view?

Amisk Dolcy · Feb 5, 2014

Just a question. Do Aventists believe that they are born again by being baptisted?

Esdra · Feb 5, 2014

although I'm not an Adventist and never have been, I would say yes.
in this case they're very similar to Baptists.
at least the Adventist pastor I used to email said something that you could interpret as being born again in the Baptist sense if I recall correctly

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