Pondering humor, sexual innuendos, etc...

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I know it's a sensitive subject...but I'm wondering why. Sex seems to be SO taboo in the Christian world. It's like...the whole procreation and nothing else thing. I am part of a small group on FB that my friend started, just for women to talk about/joke about sex and it's so much fun. I just wonder how bad it can really be. Why the shame about sex? Yes...it is a private thing, but how many of us can say that our minds don't think "dirty" (and here again...why is it dirty?) from time to time?

I don't know. I suppose I have what some would classify as a "dirty mind" but it's so much fun...and I can hear the alarm bells going off...I can hear the thoughts "Well doing something wrong usually is more fun than doing right." But really...I have a great sense of humor and I love finding humor in all aspects of life. In my circle of friends, only a couple of them aren't on board with that. We have so much fun when we get going and you can tell the conversation is just going down the "wrong path" and we're rolling on the floor laughing. I'm talking with the most subtle stuff, that's not deep or intrusive or disrespectful, nor is it flirty, it's just making fun of certain things. I used to be so stuck up about it, and I used to get angry at people who did that. Now I enjoy it, because I recognize that just like anything else we do in the monotony of life, it's fun to laugh at ourselves. It's not removing the sacredness of sex and intimacy...not at all! Nor is it disrespecting it, because at least in my circle of friends, it's not negatively themed joking. It's just making light of certain things. But that's just me. If I felt something disrespected sex and intimacy then I wouldn't involve myself with it...but in this case, it's just light-hearted chit chat about things.

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I'm not as huge a fan of jokes along that line, but I'm an INTJ so making me laugh generally involves puns, wordplay, sarcasm, or a random witty insight.

Either that or it has to be so silly I can't help but laugh at it.

So I'm not sure if I have the right to comment on your sense of humor potentially offending others, as mine does all the time.
 
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Lol you have a right to comment on it just as much as anyone else does.

I am extremely careful who I joke with, and how. I can mask it well, and I only joke this way with friends who I know are comfortable with it. Usually I wait for someone else to initiate that sort of thing and then it goes downhill and I roll with it. My husband is an INTJ as well, and he is one of the hardest people to make laugh. He laughs at the strangest things, whereas I look at them and go HUH? Goes right over my head :D

I don't think it is wrong to be like that...but there does seem to be quite a stigma against sex in general among Christians, never mind laughing about it. I'm fairly light hearted so I laugh about running into things, tripping over things, knocking things over with my "curves", and ordinary every day things...so I don't really see how laughing about sex is much different, at least for me lol
 
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I don't think all Christians have shame about sex; and also not having shame over sex doesn't always mean that the person is comfortable joking about it. They may just not find it funny or think of it as a private thing. People have different senses of humour and different levels of humour. I think if you do have a "naughty" sense of humour (or any kind of could be offensive to others humour) you have to know who to share it with. What is good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Humour is extremely important to me, but there are some jokes that I don't share with everyone, just out of respect for them as a human being. I never want to purposely make someone feel uncomfortable or upset when I know they would be offended by me joking about something- just so I could feel superior or something weird like that. I think some people do things like that and have seen it happen- online and off. I think that is a pretty terrible thing to do, ya know? You have to know your audience. So I think there's a balance between personal conviction, not forcing that personal conviction on everyone, not tiptoeing around everyone, but not forcing everyone to conform to your idea of funny, and saying things that are funny to you.

I don't know if I explained what I was trying to say well....
 
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That does make sense. I am careful what I post on Facebook, most of the time, because I don't want to offend anyone and with 400 friends it'd be pretty easy to do, I imagine. I do try to be myself on FB, but not in that way...unless it is on someone's status, or someone takes it there on my status. Then I figure people have a choice to read it or to not read it and much as I don't want to offend, I also don't want to be a snob and shut down those who are having a bit of fun. It is a balance...a tough one to get!!!

Generally though the joking stays between me and a few of my closest friends...those who i am super comfortable around and who are just crazy and random and out there to begin with. We have often pondered why people seem so closed to it...and really, not just that they're closed to it but some people, especially Christians, can be so snobby about it, trying to push their views of it on other people. It's like...if I'm not convicted that it's wrong, then why should someone else tell me what they think God says is wrong? I personally find it rather funny that God himself wrote Song of Solomon and mentioned that the woman's breasts were like towers. The visual is funny, and God must have known that 4000 years down the road someone was going to find that funny.

So yeah...personal taste, I get that, and I respect it. I just don't understand the snobbery and the hush hush about sex as a Christian. Private, sure, but snobby about it? I don't get that part.
 
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the snobbery; I guess maybe they feel uncomfortable and it's a way to deflect or something. maybe they are confused and don't really know how to feel. Sex is a sensitive subject and a deeply emotional subject and can be intensely personal, not just within the church. You never know what people have dealt with in their life that make them respond the way they do; it could be they were raised like that or they have been sexually abused or molested or are dealing with insecurities, or a ton of other combination of reasons. I will say I've been super lucky to be raised where I never felt my body or sex was dirty, so I don't come from that perspective but I can see where some people who were raised that way would think that or see things that way. In those cases I would apologize for offending them( if they let me know they were offended)- it's all you can do really but it doesn't mean you are apologizing for being yourself. Personal convictions are like underwear; everyone should wear their own- even those with views differing from mine. It doesn't always work like that, and you can't change anyone's mind but I feel like if I offended someone; I can take responsibility and apologize. How they respond is up to them. Joking of a sexual nature is tricky subject matter; depending on where the person came from and where they are now it can be a lighthearded rouse or open deep deep emotional pain or confusion- no two people are going to interpret a joke about sex the same way. It's an easy subject to misinterpret or misunderstand the nature of the joking. If i'm joking with my husband or one of my best friends= no problem; I know how they are going to respond and what they find funny. I wouldn't joke in the same way with the same subject matter with a saucy joke in a group of people that I know have objection to it or I don't know how they are going to respond.

Also, I'm pretty far from prudish but I do think sexual humour at times is crude, unprofessional, and inappropriate. Case in point: I used to have very bad back and neck pain and was sent by my doctor to get massages every two weeks. The lady giving the massages really wanted to be friendly with me and I think saucy humour was part of her persona, but when I'm there to pay her for a service and am lying naked on a table it is absolutely inappropriate and unprofessional of her to try and joke with me about her sexual life. I thought it was weird and pervy and I found somewhere else to go for massages. So she lost business. In hindsight, I think she wanted to be my friend and was trying to be humourous, but within that context it was just gross. And she didn't know me from Adam, if that's what she tells her clients that she barely knows; then what does she tell everyone else? It was beyond weird. So I think context and knowing your audience is extremely important if you want to joke about private personal matters.
 
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Its because some people take physical intimacy between a husband and wife way too seriously. Even between spouses I have seen this happen.

Sex is a natural part of marriage that is usually either all consuming a subject for some and an almost taboo that some people suffer through. (for some kind of reason)

Personally...it isn't a big thing. But that isn't to say that I don't enjoy it. But also there are other subjects that I find funny and discuss them with others as well.
 
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I used to think I wanted to be a comedian and its so easy with filth talk and sex jokes etc but as I've read the bible I've come to a couple of startling revelations. One is that we are not to talk about what ungodly acts ungodly people do in private. As time went on our culture not only talks about these things they are a "norm" in our culture and they have become a commodity i.e. "Jerry Springer" , inappropriate content, almost every secular tv show etc! The second thing is that idle words will be accounted for and I is better to go to a funeral than a great feast or party! It's still easier said than done as it is one of my weaknesses to always try to be funny even at the expense of using foul language and diru jokes. Just my 2 cents worth thanks!
 
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My mind goes there occasionally, but I don't think crude humor is appropriate in mixed company. It tends to give folks the wrong idea, potentially making communication less effective and personal relations more tenuous. If I like someone and/or work with, then I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable around me. Not to mention that I wouldn't be setting a very good example for others. Although I suppose there's a time and a place for it, there are usually better options. If I left out religious reasons, that's because it's not a religious thing as far as I'm concerned. Ultimately, words are just words. It's through the meanings people give them that they have power.

I'm not as huge a fan of jokes along that line, but I'm an INTJ so making me laugh generally involves puns, wordplay, sarcasm, or a random witty insight.

Either that or it has to be so silly I can't help but laugh at it.

So I'm not sure if I have the right to comment on your sense of humor potentially offending others, as mine does all the time.

I'm a fan of wordplay too. In fact, I'm somewhat infamous among friends and family for emitting puns, but double entendres can easily cross into "dirty" territory if one isn't careful. My humor rarely offends as I tend to keep that stuff to myself. Others might wonder what I'm laughing at, but that's generally as far as it gets. Unless someone is on a similar enough wavelength, and other circumstances are just right, I self-censor.
 
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Crude humor can be funny in tiny doses but it's a delicate balance for me. When it comes to sex I thought Seinfeld found that perfect balance, mostly by poking fun at how shallow and superficial many people have become about it. I find sarcasm, randomness, wordplay, observational comedy, and obscure references to be more engaging and satisfying.

Ultimately I prefer more cerebral and esoteric comedy. Futurama has moments where they make slight sexual jokes but their main focus remains on sci-fi, math, and cultural jokes. Tht's what I tend to enjoy the most.
 
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Sex isn't taboo or "dirty" in healthy, mature Christian circles. I've been a Christian my whole life and can't think of the last time a fellow Christian scolded anyone within earshot of me about sexual conversations, etc. I talk about it openly with my husband, and my 12 year old son knows exactly what it is and what it's for (he's still utterly grossed out by it, which I'm fine with lol).

As for joking, the Bible says a lot about watching what comes out of your mouth, as well as what you let into your mind via your eyes and ears. I think some lighthearted joking among close friends or family is fine, as long as it doesn't veer into gutter stuff. I think sex is dealt with excessively in society though; I don't think being a Christian means you're under-exposed to it, on the contrary actually, unless you live under a rock. And since it's a very private, personal, and impactful subject, I think jokes should be carefully monitored and kept within close, intimate circles, not shared with just anyone or in casual groups.

A good rule of thumb, if you wouldn't say it in front of Jesus, you probably shouldn't say it.
 
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Pretty much, it's light-hearted, and definitely within extremely close circles. I wouldn't talk about it in public or in larger groups...just out of respect for them, and generally, my mind doesn't go there in those situations. Just among closest friends, and someone will say something and it just...goes "downhill". I don't really think Jesus would have a problem with anything I say...at least I hope not! I do agree we need to watch what we say!
 
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I know it's a sensitive subject...but I'm wondering why. Sex seems to be SO taboo in the Christian world. It's like...the whole procreation and nothing else thing. I am part of a small group on FB that my friend started, just for women to talk about/joke about sex and it's so much fun. I just wonder how bad it can really be. Why the shame about sex? Yes...it is a private thing, but how many of us can say that our minds don't think "dirty" (and here again...why is it dirty?) from time to time?

I don't know. I suppose I have what some would classify as a "dirty mind" but it's so much fun...and I can hear the alarm bells going off...I can hear the thoughts "Well doing something wrong usually is more fun than doing right." But really...I have a great sense of humor and I love finding humor in all aspects of life. In my circle of friends, only a couple of them aren't on board with that. We have so much fun when we get going and you can tell the conversation is just going down the "wrong path" and we're rolling on the floor laughing. I'm talking with the most subtle stuff, that's not deep or intrusive or disrespectful, nor is it flirty, it's just making fun of certain things. I used to be so stuck up about it, and I used to get angry at people who did that. Now I enjoy it, because I recognize that just like anything else we do in the monotony of life, it's fun to laugh at ourselves. It's not removing the sacredness of sex and intimacy...not at all! Nor is it disrespecting it, because at least in my circle of friends, it's not negatively themed joking. It's just making light of certain things. But that's just me. If I felt something disrespected sex and intimacy then I wouldn't involve myself with it...but in this case, it's just light-hearted chit chat about things.

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Sex is taboo everywhere, not just with Christians.
People really dont know Truely , why God made sex the way it is.
it all changed after sin entered

sex Is not sensitive to me, cause i talk with God about it alot.
I have SEX EDUCATION in the Spirit of Truth, Classes I teach.
SEX was made by Christ.
the problem we make jokes or make it sensitive, is because we dont know
why Christ made it , the way it is.
Once Christ explains to us, why He made sex the way it is.
Your whole view of sex changes.

The first covenant between GOD and MAN
was to cut off the foreskin of the male sex organ.
kinda odd?
lol
Genesis 17:14
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Colossians 2:11
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Genesis 2:25
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


they was not ashamed, cause sin had not entered in
where sin is, shame is also.
spot, blemishes and wrinkles
Genesis 3:11
And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?


Christ, asking adam, who told him he was naked?
SIN told them, that old man of sin, that makes sex taboo
because it tells on us, shows are flaws, exposes us.

Yes Christ is based on sex, He made it, He owns the rights to it.
always, ask God, and if somthing bothers your Heart, then dont do it

I have said alot, hope some of this reaches you.
hopefully stirrs you.

as in everything, ask Christ, get it first hand !

Christ is the best thing to talk about, cause he made matter.
and if he made matter, then he is the only thing that matters.
 
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Men tend to have a much higher sex drive than women, so naturally I often find that men tend to make more sexual jokes and think about it far more often. There are obviously exceptions to the rule but just spend any amount of time in a mens' locker room or hangout. It can get pretty racy really quickly, even in some Christian circles.

I'm not saying that makes it right but it happens.
 
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Oy veh, sex is NOT "taboo everywhere".. good Lord, just turn on your TV if you think that.

I dunno what kind of Christian circles some of you are moving in, but sex is definitely not taboo in my church or my home. It's "private" which is not the same. It's not treated with shame or horror, it's treated with respect and maturity. The only person on earth that I ever joke with in a sexual way is my husband. I'd feel extremely awkward doing that with anyone else, even close friends. No, thanks.
 
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