If Christ could not have sinned, His victory over sin would have no effect on us in our battle against it. It would also deny His human nature. He was totally God and totally human.
And how do you come to the conclusion that His victory over sin is supposed to effect out battle against sin?[/QUOTE
If God cannot win over sin, which is alien to His nature, do you think you or I or anyone can? In the Book of Romans, Paul states he can do it only with the help of Christ.
And how do you come to the conclusion that His victory over sin is supposed to effect out battle against sin?[/QUOTE
If God cannot win over sin, which is alien to His nature, do you think you or I or anyone can? In the Book of Romans, Paul states he can do it only with the help of Christ.
Jesus did win over sin. But why do you think it's necessary that He could have sinned for this to take place? I don't see how being 100% man necessitates having the ability to sin.
Why every one is fighting over a bunch of what if questions in here is stupid. We can ask and fight all day but the bottom line is we are not god we will not understand everything and we will go crazy trying to so stop.
The bottom line that we can all agree on and the only thing that matters is Christ did not sin. And for this he went to the cross paying our debt and sin.
It's Easter and his sacrifice is all we should be focused on right now this argument is pointless. And it is distracting us from what this time of year is really about. We don't all have to be right and we don't always have to prove a point. So lay down your swords and think about the cross and resurrection because that is what is important.
we do at times. Not at all! But the word said "He was tempted on all points but yet with out sin." How is it possible to be tempted and remain with out sin? "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death."James 1:14-15 Simply put, Jesus never conceived. He could have, then Heaven and earth would be lost. But he did not, and offers us the same power by which to gain victory.
I disagree Jesus had every opportunity to sin he made the choice not to and with keeping his relationship strong with the father so the holy spirit could gave him strength. He was still weak in the flesh and still had free will.
If Jesus didn't have the ability to sin then his sinless life and sacrifice on the cross for us would have no meaning. The fact that he made the right choice to follow God and have close relationship with him in spite of his sin nature is what make his sacrifice for us that much more special and meaningful. He made the choice to be taken from his throne in heaven being worshiped to be put here as a baby totally dependent on his parents for everything. Jesus had it all and gave all of that up or us that is what makes what he did so awesome! He loves us that much he could have stayed in heaven but he didn't for us.
And scripture tells us that with a strong relationship with God we can perform miracles, move mountains, and raise the dead. So unless you don't think scripture is truth then you are wrong. God can do anything and he can move thoruh us anyway he wants to limit him is wrong.
Amen. When Christ came to the earth...he did not come as a God, he came as a man... he lived as a man....he had hurts, thoughts, and feelings as a man.... he could be tempted as a man and that is what makes his sacrifice so special... he held true to his Father's will and he died as a man would, but as a God he took on our sins to be the last sacrifice. He could have come as a God and not suffered at all, but our sins would not have been covered either.
yet we know he had free will ...
free will means he had choice .
we know this for he prayed .. never the less not my will , but Thine be done
yet we know he had free will ...
free will means he had choice .
we know this for he prayed .. never the less not my will , but Thine be done