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I need guidance right now. I've had a strong desire, almost insatiable need, to go to church. And I can't. I work from morning to late evenings Sundays, so going to either services is difficult. I'm not supposed to work Sundays, but they're making me work.

And with what happened over the weekend, I need guidance more than ever. I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule. What do I do? I'm getting desperate to go, I'm feeling miserable and confused and very angry and I just need family and God right now and I don't have either because I feel like I'd be bothering my already grieving family. And I have managed to push God out because of stupid, personal reasons.

And I'm lost. I don't know what to do. I need to go to church desperately bad but I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule.
 
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Negative non-Christian experiences are automatically sent supernaturally to Jesus whether we believers of Christ are aware of this silent message transmission or not. Once Jesus is accepted in your heart, he does not come and go because he has another appointment with someone else. His mind works on a supernatural level where he can see and hear each and every individual experience from every living believer of Christ, every single second of our human lives.:
Adversity from every area where sin acts like a scavenger rat to bite through the respect and rights of the poor, as well as the rich, will only bring the second coming of Jesus and his rat-free and sin-free kingdom closer to avoid Satan's transforming Earth into a disaster sports arena for his hellish entertainment.:
Church service will become a natural positive relaxation experience once we brothers and:liturgy: sisters of Christ become transformed with all the supernatural intelligence and health qualities to run a church professionally, as you can imagine that Jesus is our victory towards all things possible for our eternal positive future without violence or bullying tactics to say your views.;'*';.Praise Jesus, we pray patiently for your soon-coming victory over Satan's future defeat.:
 
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I need guidance right now. I've had a strong desire, almost insatiable need, to go to church. And I can't. I work from morning to late evenings Sundays, so going to either services is difficult. I'm not supposed to work Sundays, but they're making me work.

Well...let me ask this: when you applied to work, did you note that you weren't available Sundays? Did you ever tell them officially that didn't change?

If yes to the first and no to the second, you may have options.

And with what happened over the weekend, I need guidance more than ever. I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule. What do I do? I'm getting desperate to go, I'm feeling miserable and confused and very angry and I just need family and God right now and I don't have either because I feel like I'd be bothering my already grieving family. And I have managed to push God out because of stupid, personal reasons.

Talk with your immediate supervisor. Companies know that happy employees are productive employees.
 
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I need guidance right now. I've had a strong desire, almost insatiable need, to go to church. And I can't. I work from morning to late evenings Sundays, so going to either services is difficult. I'm not supposed to work Sundays, but they're making me work.

And with what happened over the weekend, I need guidance more than ever. I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule. What do I do? I'm getting desperate to go, I'm feeling miserable and confused and very angry and I just need family and God right now and I don't have either because I feel like I'd be bothering my already grieving family. And I have managed to push God out because of stupid, personal reasons.

And I'm lost. I don't know what to do. I need to go to church desperately bad but I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule.
There are many churches that have worship and prayer services during
the week so find one of those and go and check it out....
 
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I need guidance right now. I've had a strong desire, almost insatiable need, to go to church. And I can't. I work from morning to late evenings Sundays, so going to either services is difficult. I'm not supposed to work Sundays, but they're making me work.

And with what happened over the weekend, I need guidance more than ever. I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule. What do I do? I'm getting desperate to go, I'm feeling miserable and confused and very angry and I just need family and God right now and I don't have either because I feel like I'd be bothering my already grieving family. And I have managed to push God out because of stupid, personal reasons.

And I'm lost. I don't know what to do. I need to go to church desperately bad but I can't get a hold of the person who does the schedule.
It would be good to find out your church's schedule so that maybe you can meet up on other days besides Sunday and other days you work. We have evening services, regularly, but now that we're in Great Lent, it's services every night this week and then for the rest of Lent til Holy Week, is services Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays, and Sunday. Evening services on the week days as well as on Saturday (although this Saturday is the last service of the Saturday of Souls).

If your church does services on other nights and/or bible study/adult ed. classes, maybe that would help you out.
 
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Well...let me ask this: when you applied to work, did you note that you weren't available Sundays? Did you ever tell them officially that didn't change?

If yes to the first and no to the second, you may have options.

Talk with your immediate supervisor. Companies know that happy employees are productive employees.

Yes, and I've informed them again a few times as a reminder because of paranoia from a last job. Like, for the first three weeks, I had Sundays off to go to service because I had finally gained up the courage to go and conquered my panic attacks and the huge urge to flee (I have social anxiety). And then suddenly, I had to work a Sunday from morning to evening, and I decided, "Okay. Maybe it was just a mistake in scheduling, I'll show up despite the fact that they know I cannot work on these days because of religious reasons."

And it just went on a downward spiral.

And I managed to stop the person who does the scheduling today, and asked about a schedule change.

She did not get back to me, until I clocked out, and in order to do anything work related things, I have to be clocked in but they couldn't keep me because: We were closed for the night, and any longer I would need a lunch break.

Everyone else: I'm pretty much working all week, every week and on the occasion I have off or on short shifts, I'm too exhausted to get out of bed or I'm working afternoons to ten at night which are my short shifts, otherwise it's morning/early afternoons to close.

I did finally manage to snag a schedule request form from one of my managers though, and now, it's just hoping it gets approved because I'm just already incredibly stressed out, and with the recent passing of a relative and unable to be home for more than a few hours for what little sleep I can manage, I just need a break from it all. And because of this nagging, insatiable need to go to church, I feel like it'd be the perfect break because church has always felt like this weird place of peace. No noise, just silence and a good quietness.

Since tomorrow is one of my rare days off, the church I've managed to get myself to attend before all of this chaos, is having something they call a "Fellowship" (I dearly hope it's not a meeting to destroy an evil ring) and it sounds interesting.

/Sorry if none of this makes sense
 
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My work schedule doesn't allow me to go to church on Sunday's. Because of this I found a Wednesday morning Bible study offered by my church. Rest assured you are not the only Christian with odd hours. I live in a fairly small area, and churches here offer services are various times in various places. Good luck.
 
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Yes, and I've informed them again a few times as a reminder because of paranoia from a last job. Like, for the first three weeks, I had Sundays off to go to service because I had finally gained up the courage to go and conquered my panic attacks and the huge urge to flee (I have social anxiety). And then suddenly, I had to work a Sunday from morning to evening, and I decided, "Okay. Maybe it was just a mistake in scheduling, I'll show up despite the fact that they know I cannot work on these days because of religious reasons."

And it just went on a downward spiral.

Do you have a professional diagnosis for your "disability"? Work places are required by law to provide reasonable accommodations for any need based on a disabilitas per the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.

It won't be a "get out of jail free" card for you in terms of getting Sundays off directly, but it can be useful in helping you find a voice to express your request in a way that is less "threatening" to you.

And I managed to stop the person who does the scheduling today, and asked about a schedule change.

She did not get back to me, until I clocked out, and in order to do anything work related things, I have to be clocked in but they couldn't keep me because: We were closed for the night, and any longer I would need a lunch break.

That's an excuse on her part, in my honest opinion.

Everyone else: I'm pretty much working all week, every week and on the occasion I have off or on short shifts, I'm too exhausted to get out of bed or I'm working afternoons to ten at night which are my short shifts, otherwise it's morning/early afternoons to close.

I did finally manage to snag a schedule request form from one of my managers though, and now, it's just hoping it gets approved because I'm just already incredibly stressed out, and with the recent passing of a relative and unable to be home for more than a few hours for what little sleep I can manage, I just need a break from it all. And because of this nagging, insatiable need to go to church, I feel like it'd be the perfect break because church has always felt like this weird place of peace. No noise, just silence and a good quietness.

Since tomorrow is one of my rare days off, the church I've managed to get myself to attend before all of this chaos, is having something they call a "Fellowship" (I dearly hope it's not a meeting to destroy an evil ring) and it sounds interesting.

/Sorry if none of this makes sense

I think the following might be good for you:

1) If you aren't already, I think seeking some professional counseling might be good for you. If you have a social anxiety disability that is causing you this must stress, it would be in your best interest to seek professional help. Your work place must allow you the time for this as per the Act I gave above.
2) If your job denies your request, you should consider looking for new employment. If your "condition" meets certain requirements, you might be covered by law for government assistance for your living needs. It won't cover them all, but it will help.
3) Get in touch with the priest or pastor of your church and discuss the issue with him or her. If he or she is at all worthy of even being a cleric, he or she will find the time to meet with you personally when you are both available. If that isn't possible, then don't even bother with that particular church; if the ordained minister cannot do his or her duties, then it isn't a church to affiliate with to begin with.
 
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Do you have a professional diagnosis for your "disability"? Work places are required by law to provide reasonable accommodations for any need based on a disabilitas per the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.

It won't be a "get out of jail free" card for you in terms of getting Sundays off directly, but it can be useful in helping you find a voice to express your request in a way that is less "threatening" to you.

That's an excuse on her part, in my honest opinion.

I think the following might be good for you:

1) If you aren't already, I think seeking some professional counseling might be good for you. If you have a social anxiety disability that is causing you this must stress, it would be in your best interest to seek professional help. Your work place must allow you the time for this as per the Act I gave above.
2) If your job denies your request, you should consider looking for new employment. If your "condition" meets certain requirements, you might be covered by law for government assistance for your living needs. It won't cover them all, but it will help.
3) Get in touch with the priest or pastor of your church and discuss the issue with him or her. If he or she is at all worthy of even being a cleric, he or she will find the time to meet with you personally when you are both available. If that isn't possible, then don't even bother with that particular church; if the ordained minister cannot do his or her duties, then it isn't a church to affiliate with to begin with.

My old psychiatrist diagnosed me when I was about sixteen, after a pretty bad panic attack from being left alone at something we have called SPA for students interested in theater. My parents wanted me involved in something and seeing someone who used to bully me triggered me pretty badly. I was tested or screened or whatever for it before (I had to answer a bunch of questions) and it was a topic of conversation.

I managed to catch her earlier this week and turned in a request form.
It was denied. And instead, in the next few weeks, I'm working hours I'm not even supposed to be working. I had to go home earlier this week because I ended up having a panic attack and was throwing up. Not to mention a near breakdown when I approached my manager.

-I am seeing a therapist two hours a week. But because I don't trust any of my coworkers, despite how nice they are, nobody knows that I'm in therapy. I just don't want it getting around and people looking at me differently or treating me differently. And because they just hired an old bully of mine, I don't need the extra stress of him constantly harassing me again. I just pray that he's working overnights or completely different shifts than me.

-I already am keeping eyes and ears out for a new job until I can flee this state, and because we're a college town, there aren't many openings until the summer. I don't think I'd be able to go on government assistance because the social anxiety doesn't cripple me as long as I feel "safe" with what I'm doing (as long as I can have something familiar with me, whether it's my phone, another person or my iPod), I'm half way fine.

-I WAS supposed to do that today, in the evening, but because I have bad luck, and one of my coworkers has pneumonia and we were incredibly busy (with two hundred customers still in the store after close), I had to stay.

I know for a fact I will be quitting if my request to at least go to my uncle's funeral is denied. I feel really bad for complaining, honestly. I should be thankful for having a job.

/I'm sorry that this is late and am bringing it back up. And for all of this.
 
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My old psychiatrist diagnosed me when I was about sixteen, after a pretty bad panic attack from being left alone at something we have called SPA for students interested in theater. My parents wanted me involved in something and seeing someone who used to bully me triggered me pretty badly. I was tested or screened or whatever for it before (I had to answer a bunch of questions) and it was a topic of conversation.

Find a copy of the diagonsis; you should be able to through your current therapist.

Next, if possible and ONLY if possible, obtain from your therapist, if he or she thinks that attending services helps you with your disability, an official written note that says exactly that.

Then, find the time to talk with your supervisor and let them know that you have a disability and you have a letter from an expert suggesting a treatment of attending religious services.

It will be very difficult for them to avoid your request; they'd have to prove legally that allowing you to go to church services would impose an unreasonable difficulty on the company, and if they were to reduce your hours or fire you...or make your life hard by trying to do so, you can then sue them. You ARE covers under the Act I mentioned above; you have legal rights. Do NOT be afraid to fight for them.

I managed to catch her earlier this week and turned in a request form. It was denied. And instead, in the next few weeks, I'm working hours I'm not even supposed to be working. I had to go home earlier this week because I ended up having a panic attack and was throwing up. Not to mention a near breakdown when I approached my manager.

Bring it up to the next level of management. You have that right.

-I am seeing a therapist two hours a week. But because I don't trust any of my coworkers, despite how nice they are, nobody knows that I'm in therapy. I just don't want it getting around and people looking at me differently or treating me differently. And because they just hired an old bully of mine, I don't need the extra stress of him constantly harassing me again. I just pray that he's working overnights or completely different shifts than me.

1. You need to learn to trust people. If you aren't already, let your therapist know that you are struggling with this so you can begin to work on it.
2. Despite 1 above, it isn't your coworkers who need to know - it is your supervisor.
3. Let your supervisor know immediately that you've had past issues with their newest hire. Nip the problem in the bud before it even begins; be proactive, not reactive.

-I already am keeping eyes and ears out for a new job until I can flee this state, and because we're a college town, there aren't many openings until the summer. I don't think I'd be able to go on government assistance because the social anxiety doesn't cripple me as long as I feel "safe" with what I'm doing (as long as I can have something familiar with me, whether it's my phone, another person or my iPod), I'm half way fine.

It never hurts to try to seek government assistance. You don't know if you don't qualify until you try. Ask your therapist if he or she thinks you may or not, and I'll willing to bet he or she may be able to help you with the process in at least getting proof of your disability.

-I WAS supposed to do that today, in the evening, but because I have bad luck, and one of my coworkers has pneumonia and we were incredibly busy (with two hundred customers still in the store after close), I had to stay.

Keep trying and do NOT give up in meeting with your priest or pastor.

I know for a fact I will be quitting if my request to at least go to my uncle's funeral is denied. I feel really bad for complaining, honestly. I should be thankful for having a job.

I understand how you feel, and unlike how that phrase ("I understand how you feel") is often misused, I truly do know how you feel. It does get better, but you need to take the steps. I think you are capable and I am more than certain your therapist will do all he or she can to help you.

Check to see whether your employer's bereavement policy includes uncles/aunts. Even if not, make the case that you were especially close to him (especially if it is true) and you might be surprised that they'll let you off for it.

And if they don't, quite honestly, I'd likely quit too. I was going to myself in my circumstance, but things changed so that I didn't have to even worry about it anyway.

Furthermore, while you should be thankful to have a job, it shouldn't be one to obviously cause you this amount of stress. You have every right to be upset.

Finally, allow me please to offer my truest and deepest sympathies for your lost. May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed, by the mercy of God, rest in peace.

/I'm sorry that this is late and am bringing it back up. And for all of this.

NEVER BE SORRY for this!! While I don't have the same challenges as you, I too have a disability and have encountered similar circumstances to those you're facing now. You have no need to apologize to me or anyone else for that matter.
 
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HE will also put like minded believers in your life if you ask (and believe) HIM to do it.
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Correct me if I'm wrong - but don't employers have to respect religious beliefs and at least try to make reasonable accommodation?

I'd like to know why your employer cannot let you have Sundays off :/.

They are supposed to.

I don't know why. They didn't tell me why, other than, "We're understaffed." Which is bull. We're a giant corporation.

Ezeric--I know my body is the church, but I'm needing the physical building. The people, the guidance of someone. I need the physical people, because I just can't go through life being in comfort of atheists and theists and Pagans. I need the fellowship.

Paladin--It's been years since it's been diagnosed, will it still even be documented? Because none of the medications I was put on (such as my anti-depressants, former birth control pills--for medical purposes) was not in my doctors (medical, not psychiatrist) system when I last visited him, which was three weeks ago. And thank you. I will start doing all of that. Tomorrow since the store owner will be in, I'll speak to her about most of this as well to see if she could help in leniency and giving me a break. She has more power than the managers.
 
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They are supposed to.

I don't know why. They didn't tell me why, other than, "We're understaffed." Which is bull. We're a giant corporation.

Alright. Definitely push this. Or at least let them schedule to where you can work a Sunday - but it won't affect worship hours?

Good luck. I'd be pressing this heavily too. A Sunday off isn't an unreasonable accommodation.

Praying for you. Since coming to Christ, going to my church has been important for me, something I crave and enjoy.

I have anxiety too... it's rough :(
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong - but don't employers have to respect religious beliefs and at least try to make reasonable accommodation?

I'd like to know why your employer cannot let you have Sundays off :/.

In some states, there is something called "Right to Work", which is a very misleading term as it means that the employer has the right to terminate you for any reason at any time and the employee has the right to terminate work at any time for any reason.

I had to fight to be able to go to church, and sometimes, that just wasn't possible, in which case I had to have the opportunity on Wednesday. Now, it isn't a problem, but back then, oh boy did I have issues with my previous employer, and I live in a "Right to Work" state.

Furthermore, there often must be official belief that worship attendance is required. For some groups, that is easy. For many Protestant denominations however, particularly Non-denominational groups, that is nearly impossible because it isn't a part of the theology. As such, a Roman Catholic would have a fairly easy time (Holy Days of Obligation), but a member of a house church would find it exceedingly difficult. As a Episcopalian (member of the Anglican Communion), it wasn't too hard for me.

They are supposed to.

I don't know why. They didn't tell me why, other than, "We're understaffed." Which is bull. We're a giant corporation

Well, unfortunately, a lot of companies purposely understaff in order to save money. They try to squeeze as much out of as few employees as possible.

Efficiency is good, but many companies take it to an extreme which, IMO, is very immoral and unprofessional...and I daresay Un-Christian.

However, it may truly be that you are understaffed; that is possible. You might be understaffed at your location, although since I am not there, I will differ to your take on that.

Ezeric--I know my body is the church, but I'm needing the physical building. The people, the guidance of someone. I need the physical people, because I just can't go through life being in comfort of atheists and theists and Pagans. I need the fellowship.

This is only orthodox ecclesiology. One individual is not a church; the community as an instituted whole is the church. I am pleased you seem to believe this! :)

Paladin--It's been years since it's been diagnosed, will it still even be documented?

It should be a part of your records. Ask your therapist.

Because none of the medications I was put on (such as my anti-depressants, former birth control pills--for medical purposes) was not in my doctors (medical, not psychiatrist) system when I last visited him, which was three weeks ago.

Honestly, I am surprised that it wouldn't be in your medical records. Given how human biology works (everything affects everything else; we're a very complex species), your condition should be on record. Ask your general practitioner to make sure. If it isn't, be sure you give consent for your general practitioner and your therapist to communicate with each other; it would highly advise this because you will probably get better help from both of them if they know what the other is doing for you.

However, your therapist should hopefully have the records of your psychiatric history, and if not, if you can find who originally diagnosed you, you should be able to officially ask that the records be transferred to your current therapist. Again, I highly suggest this because your current therapist will then have access to a wealth of knowledge he or she didn't have before and will be able to help you better.

And in case you are worried about your two professionals knowing what the other is doing, don't worry; both your general practitioner and therapist are under professional obligations of confidentiality. Only the most pertinent of information would be shared, and they would never divulge things otherwise to each other. Only information that is necessarily to help you would be shared.

And thank you. I will start doing all of that. Tomorrow since the store owner will be in, I'll speak to her about most of this as well to see if she could help in leniency and giving me a break. She has more power than the managers.

Be calm, don't get emotional, and speak clearly. Ask; don't demand, and absolutely don't threaten. Tell her the situation, how you feel, and hopefully she'll understand. I cannot guarantee anything, but if you present your case professionally, then you have a fair chance of getting what you feel you need.

However, do try to get a signed document affirming your diagnosis or the records as well as a written official recommendation from your therapist that attending religious service is therapeutic for you (only if the therapist truly believes so). If you can get these, then you will have some very powerful weapons at your disposal that cannot be ignored by your workplace.
 
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In some states, there is something called "Right to Work", which is a very misleading term as it means that the employer has the right to terminate you for any reason at any time and the employee has the right to terminate work at any time for any reason.

I had to fight to be able to go to church, and sometimes, that just wasn't possible, in which case I had to have the opportunity on Wednesday. Now, it isn't a problem, but back then, oh boy did I have issues with my previous employer, and I live in a "Right to Work" state.

Furthermore, there often must be official belief that worship attendance is required. For some groups, that is easy. For many Protestant denominations however, particularly Non-denominational groups, that is nearly impossible because it isn't a part of the theology. As such, a Roman Catholic would have a fairly easy time (Holy Days of Obligation), but a member of a house church would find it exceedingly difficult. As a Episcopalian (member of the Anglican Communion), it wasn't too hard for me.



Well, unfortunately, a lot of companies purposely understaff in order to save money. They try to squeeze as much out of as few employees as possible.

Efficiency is good, but many companies take it to an extreme which, IMO, is very immoral and unprofessional...and I daresay Un-Christian.

However, it may truly be that you are understaffed; that is possible. You might be understaffed at your location, although since I am not there, I will differ to your take on that.



This is only orthodox ecclesiology. One individual is not a church; the community as an instituted whole is the church. I am pleased you seem to believe this! :)



It should be a part of your records. Ask your therapist.



Honestly, I am surprised that it wouldn't be in your medical records. Given how human biology works (everything affects everything else; we're a very complex species), your condition should be on record. Ask your general practitioner to make sure. If it isn't, be sure you give consent for your general practitioner and your therapist to communicate with each other; it would highly advise this because you will probably get better help from both of them if they know what the other is doing for you.

However, your therapist should hopefully have the records of your psychiatric history, and if not, if you can find who originally diagnosed you, you should be able to officially ask that the records be transferred to your current therapist. Again, I highly suggest this because your current therapist will then have access to a wealth of knowledge he or she didn't have before and will be able to help you better.

And in case you are worried about your two professionals knowing what the other is doing, don't worry; both your general practitioner and therapist are under professional obligations of confidentiality. Only the most pertinent of information would be shared, and they would never divulge things otherwise to each other. Only information that is necessarily to help you would be shared.



Be calm, don't get emotional, and speak clearly. Ask; don't demand, and absolutely don't threaten. Tell her the situation, how you feel, and hopefully she'll understand. I cannot guarantee anything, but if you present your case professionally, then you have a fair chance of getting what you feel you need.

However, do try to get a signed document affirming your diagnosis or the records as well as a written official recommendation from your therapist that attending religious service is therapeutic for you (only if the therapist truly believes so). If you can get these, then you will have some very powerful weapons at your disposal that cannot be ignored by your workplace.

Okay. I will be asking my therapist next week when I see him about it.

I will be speaking with the store owner today I am now working hours I literally cannot work. And they are now making me work double shifts for the coming week(s).

I was thirty minutes late the other day because I had to take a power nap since I could not sleep the night before and the sleeping pills I had taken sixteen hours earlier finally set in. My managers did not treat me kindly when I came in.

I can't do this anymore. I've relapsed back into cutting, I keep getting panic attacks and things are just falling apart.

Thank you for the help.
 
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