Did Jesus come as God or as a human being?

edpobre · Feb 14, 2002

Friends,

There has been a lot of debate about Jesus' deity. So let's take a poll.

If Jesus is indeed the WORD that was God who CAME, then Jesus CAME as God that BECAME a MAN when he was born, vote 1.

On the other hand, if Jesus CAME as a human being in FULFILLMENT of God's word about him as recorded in Isaiah 7:14, then Jesus CAME as a human being, vote 2.

StogusMaximus · Feb 14, 2002

I don't think you will get many votes without an option 3.

3. Jesus came as fully God and fully human.

Wildfire · Feb 14, 2002

Well Jesus told the disciples many times that he was not of this world; and then days after he died, he appeared several times; talking with them in the streets of Jerusalem in a form that they did not recognize, and also on the shore when Peter & Thomas were fishing. And we are told that Jesus showed them many other things, that could not even be contained in a book, if they were written.
Soup.

filosofer · Feb 14, 2002

It's backward, ed. God came and took on human flesh in the person of Jesus, in fulfillment of prophecy.

BWSmith · Feb 14, 2002

I vote for #3 as well.

edpobre · Feb 14, 2002

Originally posted by Soup is good food
Well Jesus told the disciples many times that he was not of this world; and then days after he died, he appeared several times; talking with them in the streets of Jerusalem in a form that they did not recognize, and also on the shore when Peter & Thomas were fishing. And we are told that Jesus showed them many other things, that could not even be contained in a book, if they were written.
Soup.

Hi Soup,

Nice post! But how do you vote? Thanks.

edpobre

edpobre · Feb 14, 2002

Originally posted by filosofer
It's backward, ed. God came and took on human flesh in the person of Jesus, in fulfillment of prophecy.

filosofer,

Thanks! But doesn't this mean that it was Jesus who was God who came and took on human flesh in the person of Jesus?

edpobre

VeraciousMaven · Feb 14, 2002

Vote 3.

AngelAmidala · Feb 14, 2002

I think there will be a lot of #3 votes.

Me included.

It's the write-in vote!!

edpobre · Feb 27, 2002

Originally posted by AngelAmidala
I think there will be a lot of #3 votes. Me included.

It's the write-in vote!!

Friends,

Jesus said: "Enter the narrow gate for WIDE is the gate and BROAD is the way that leads to DESTRUCTION, and there are MANY who GO IN by it. Because NARROW is the gate and DIFFICULT is the way that leads to LIFE and there are FEW who FIND it" (Matthew 7:21-22).

Indeed, MANY may vote for option 3 but does this lead to LIFE? Does the Bible teach that Jesus CAME as FULLY (100%) HUMAN BEING and FULLY (100%) God?

Here is what the apostle John wrote in 1 John 4:1-3 (TEV):

"(1) My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the Spirit, but TEST them to find out if the spirit they have is the Spirit of God.

(2) This is how you will be able to know whether it is God's Spirit: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus Christ CAME as a HUMAN BEING has the Spirit who comes from God.

(3) But anyone who DENIES this about Jesus, does NOT have the Spirit of God. The spirit that he has is the spirit of the ENEMY of Christ: you heard that it would come, and now it is in the world already."

Does option 3 come from someone who has the Spirit of God or does it come from someone who has the spirit of the AntiChrist?

Ed

Wearynot · Feb 27, 2002

John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

1 John 4:2
By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

1 John 4:3
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

ZoneChaos · Feb 27, 2002

Does option 3 come from someone who has the Spirit of God or does it come from someone who has the spirit of the AntiChrist?

Spirit of God.

Limiting Jesus to just one of the other frist 2 options is the Spirit of the Anti-Christ.

PrinceJeff · Feb 27, 2002

Zone isn't this spam? Ed lost the debate long ages ago and he still posts the same INC drivel?

OldBadfish · Feb 27, 2002

# Count me in for a #3 vote also!

Although Jesus was here in the flesh, he had the mentality of divinity.

ZoneChaos · Feb 28, 2002

Originally posted by PrinceJeff
Zone isn't this spam? Ed lost the debate long ages ago and he still posts the same INC drivel?

As much as I would like to call it spam.. it is more just inconsiderate on Ed;s part..

It only shows up in this forum.. and follows the rules (most of the time).. maybe he will get bored when he realizes that no one cares anymore about what he says... /shrug.

But until then.. keep defending against the offenders..

edpobre · Feb 28, 2002

Originally posted by Badfish
# Count me in for a #3 vote also!

Although Jesus was here in the flesh, he had the mentality of divinity.

Hello Badfish,

Option 3 says Jesus CAME as 100% MAN and 100% God. The Bible says Jesus CAME in the flesh or as a human being (1 John 4:2-3).

I have no idea where you got your information that Jesus had the mentality of divinity. Does the Bible say this or does this come from a psychiatrist who had the chance to interview Jesus when he was alive?

Ed

edpobre · Feb 28, 2002

Originally posted by ZoneChaos

As much as I would like to call it spam.. it is more just inconsiderate on Ed;s part..

It only shows up in this forum.. and follows the rules (most of the time).. maybe he will get bored when he realizes that no one cares anymore about what he says... /shrug.

But until then.. keep defending against the offenders..

Hi ZoneChaos,

Thank you for being considerate. That's what I like in KT now CF. They are a bunch of fair and considerate guys much like the people at Christiansareus. You should try posting there too.

Ed

Phoenix · Feb 28, 2002

Vote for number 3 as well.

John 8:32 · Feb 28, 2002

I'll vote for #3 also

In Gods Grace

PrinceJeff · Feb 28, 2002

It's just that Ed you post essentially the same topic on different threads. That's all.

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