Is there an unforgivable sin

I have obsessive thoughts. Or have had. I don't like to talk to them because I don't know if they're believers.

So the obsessive thoughts are like that that I'm afraid to laugh because of them because I fear that I might be laughing at God. And so it goes with every other activity because I'm afraid because of the obsessive thoughts about the intentions of my activities. I may be even afraid of placing my hand somewhere because I'm afraid of it being something symbolic. I don't know if you get me but it's good to get this out.

You might be under a strong delusion.

I was under one myself, thinking about graven images and couldn't even sit in a chair that say, had a flower decoration on it for fear that I was breaking a commandment. Thing is, I might not even notice that say, the rug or a chair had graven images on them, and when I would just STEP or SIT on the images my mind would go berserk, and this is how I thought I was doing wrong. My mind would go into a "cursing God" phase and I would constantly apologize in my mind for the things that would be running through my head. As SOON as I would step off or get up from the item that had a graven image/s on it my mind would return to normal......and as such I became deceived.

In your case, try to break free! In my delusions I thought all the advice I was getting going against what I was doing was in actuality temptations that I had to overcome so that I could better follow the delusion/believing a lie i was under.

I don't know if they're delusions. I think they're just obsessive thoughts. I don't have hallucinations with vision. I have other hallucinations. It's about the intetions. For example, if I spit I have to convince myself before I do it that I'm only spitting and that there's nothing symbolical in it.

then your on a good course, head straight ways. meaning when you spit you indeed just spit. unless you spit in someones face or so.

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Positive thinking: Hell could be worse.

I don't know. I've been thinking of abandoning faith. I sort of turned my conscience off so that I could sleep because it was always accusing me.

But I can't get over it that I said something.

But then again I don't want to abandon faith. Now I feel horrible because I considered it.

I found something in the Bible. In Matthew 9:32-34 it says: "32 As they were going away, behold, a demon-oppressed man who was mute was brought to him. 33 And when the demon had been cast out, the mute man spoke. And the crowds marveled, saying, “Never was anything like this seen in Israel.” 34 But the Pharisees said, “He casts out demons by the prince of demons.”" Jesus doesn't warn here about the blasphemy. But in Matthew 12:22 and so on it says: "Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw." and 24: "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.”" and Jesus warns about the blasphemy.

I'll teach you guys something. You guys/gals did not choose Jesus. He chose you.
This is Jesus speaking.
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

He knows your heart and when you mean something or not. When I had my episodes with schizophrenia I said A LOT of things I didn't mean. It was the illness talking. God knows that. If you are seeking Jesus now, it's because the Father drew you to Jesus. Let go of your fears and just trust Him. He wants to love you! He loved you before you loved Him and knew you before you were formed in your mother's womb. Trust Him with all your fears and insecurities. Trust me, He can handle it.

I said things I didnt mean too I repented for it.

that's ok. i guess forgiving can be trick. they say, jesus said that any evil againt the holy ghost can not be forgiven.

so i guess forgiving can be a hard thing at times. and when is wrong done toward anything holy, and when can it be forgiven?

i change my mind so many times, over and over, but basicly i do stick with it that the holy ghost is pure good, and no evil comes from it. not at all. the holiness i guess is love and nothing else then that comes from it.

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Hello my name is Amanda. I've been having this terrible experience myself since last oct-nov. I'm wondering if this guy is still around please message me. Thank you.

miraclemandi said:

Hello my name is Amanda. I've been having this terrible experience myself since last oct-nov. I'm wondering if this guy is still around please message me. Thank you.

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Did you mean me or did you mean FutureAndAHope?

I hate this topic. I hate those times I think I'm going to hell. I went to seminary and asked many of the professors about this and found no comfort. I've looked up all the answers I could find, no comfort. Truthfully, for me, the emotions were ruling my thoughts more than the other way around. I know it will return when all the fears and madness returns. Other people struggle with this. Add a rather some emotions, other beliefs you cannot help, voices, man, it becomes way too real.

It really isn't an intellectual struggle. It isn't like I would find the right answer and be ok forever. Even if I did, I would probably still feel like I was burning in hell for a year before the answer sank in. I always remember that if you're worried about it, then you haven't done it. That sunk in. And I've come to believe being in that much trouble is really a matter of refusing to believe to the point one rejects any and all efforts put forward by God. Not just for a short while, but permanent lifelong. That is the only way I know to square it with other theologies and stuff in the bible that would say we are much more safe than we might otherwise think.

But the horror will come again. And it will squeeze its way in because there is that tiny little chance I might be wrong. I don't like tiny chances I might go to hell. I get thoughts I can't get out of my head. You think them once, then you think about how you thought them, now they won't leave no matter how much you try not to think about them. And even if you can stop--you thought them! What a nightmare. I have dreams about hell that are worse than any movie. I certainly struggle with living nightmares and guilt that finds no home.

I think we'll be ok. We'll work through these things. And honestly, this kind of worry is quite normal. Many other christians in the past suffered from horrible thoughts they couldn't get out. Read Bunyon's little autobiography. Or take Martin Luther. Luther was known for praying all the time--because he was so scared he was damned for forgetting to confess just one sin. God is better than that though. God is someone we can trust even when our own world falls apart--even when it is from the inside and we don't know it. Heaven is a free gift we accept by trusting God Jesus to have taken our hell for us. So, if he took the hell, then I don't have to.

Thanks for that post FutureAndAHope.
I just wanted to bring something you everyone's attention.
Sometimes God uses our misfortune to refine us.
We are like a tree in His garden being pruned and picked.
He wants us to produce good fruit because a good tree does that.
He takes our misfortune and ask us to come to Him with it. He'll then use that to refine us like this following scripture.

Daniel 11:35
And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Please trust in the Lord that He is using this time of your tribulation to teach you patience, endurance, and to refine you till you become holy like Him. Remember what Paul said? He said (paraphrasing) "I'd rather glory in my infirmities so that the power of Christ may rest in me."
Easier than it sounds but please put your total trust in the Lord. Also make sure to take your medicines and listen to your doctors. He put them in your life for a reason.