OCD-the unforgivable sin and blasphemy

Same thing happens with me sometimes. Just ignore the thoughts, and tell God that you know he knows your heart, and that these thoughts are just of your flesh (brain - OCD). Remember Jesus said, "The Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak". Your spirit is the part of you the craves God, and with God's help will bring your entire being under God, but until that time (sanctification), God knows where his kingdom is in you, and will help you conquer your rebellious nature in time. Just remember, give all of your anxieties and worries to God because he cares for you, be openly honest, tell him your evil thoughts and feelings openly, when you start getting a more open relationship with God, you will find that these things do not bother you as they once did, and Satan loses another stronghold in your life.

Remember God is your Father,

When you had something that was really really bothering you on the inside (lets say you stole something and the guilt was eating you up) when did you start feeling better? When you went and told your parent what happened and that you were sorry that you did it. Take refuge in him, speak the truth to him, and it will set you free!

You are born again, you cannot commit the unforgivable sin, you have been sealed with the holy spirit and are now a new creature in Christ, the old ways are gone. Repent and look forward to eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ. Occupy yourself by glorifying him on this earth with good works and knowing that you are on God's team now!

The most important thing you can do Kal is to keep praying over and over asking God to help conquer your mind to bring it under submission to him. He knows what is best for you, and if you keep petitioning him in prayer he will respond.

Scripture:
Matthew 26:41
Romans 8:29-30
1 Peter 5:6-7
John 8:32
1 John 3:8
Ephesians 1:13
2 Corinthians 5:17
Romans 6: 1-14

KAL93 said:

I've been Doing what you've said for the past month or so, slowly the thoughts are getting less and less. Just can't help but feel guilty over them and want them to stop now.. Unfortunately I guess that's not the way the human mind was designed to work. Truely can't wait to get to the place we'll spend eternity.. Till then just gotta keep on keeping on(& praising god while doing it). Thanks for your reassuring words!

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I am glad to help, remember:

"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ"
Philippians 1:6

KAL93 said:

Lately I've even having these thoughts. Ever since I read about the unforgivable sin it seems all I can think of is ill against the Holy Spirit and god. When I'm praying or singing my mind will replace the words god or Jesus with devil. These are by no means what is in my heart. I'm a devout born again christian and love god with all my heart. These thoughts are consuming my life and effecting it greatly. I can't function right because I'm to busy praying for forgiveness or looking up why this is happening. I'm starting to have doubts that I really know Christ because I'm allowing these thoughts into my head. Is anyone else having these issues?? Please help!!!

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KAL, I know EXACTLY what you are going through!!! Sometimes we think we are the only ones going through it, but we are not. The reason why I think we have these thoughts is that the enemy attacks us because we LOVE the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!! We are so afaid of committing the unpardonable sin, that we tend to obsess about it. Hang in there. You are not alone. Besides, Jesus is FOR YOU!

what you mentioned [the alteration of the name Jesus with the word devil or any vulgar word] has been happened to me for some time,. however, do not be worried about the unforgivable sin because its not a result of some involuntary thoughts or phrases. Never worry about the unforgivable sin whatsoever

mmutsakama said:

what you mentioned [the alteration of the name Jesus with the word devil or any vulgar word] has been happened to me for some time,. however, do not be worried about the unforgivable sin because its not a result of some involuntary thoughts or phrases. Never worry about the unforgivable sin whatsoever

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Thank mmutsakama! I need to remember that sometimes during these mind attacks

Hi, I think everyone here has been wonderful and supportive of you. It looks like it may have been helpful.

Just to let you know, I have severe OCD and some really bad thoughts in my head. Before I converted ten years ago, the blasphemy of my thoughts made me feel like God would just ignore me. Sometimes, even today, I spend hours a day combating the thoughts. During these times, I feel the same way about knowing God as you mentioned.

But more so than anyone else, God knows the thoughts are caused by anxiety and not by your own conscious will. He is very aware of how much you hate the thoughts and how much you are not responsible for them. He knows your heart and that trumps uninvited thoughts in your mind.

I've been going through having ungodly thoughts popping up in my head as well, so yeah, you're not alone Through prayer and the seeking of God I am slowly getting rid of such thoughts (I have prayed for you as well). Think of OCD as a challenge to overcome, with God's help. That's what I do. And as already mentioned, never worry about the unforgivable sin (as I wasted half a day doing )

Hi Kal, I am so sorry you are going through this and has already been said you are certainly not alone, my hubby and I have suffered OCD for years me at one time so severe I do not want to go into details, and why I do not come on this section because I found it would effect me to talk about it, I had a breakdown and it was clinical depression that caused it, so it did fade and I slowly recovered after a very traumatic four year period, with treatment and self help, but it did leave me prone to bouts of what you describe still coming back, (blasphemy words in the mind) at the time I was convinced I had sinned against the Holy Spirit I was in a terrible state, but my hubby who is also Christian really helped me to see that this was not so as was explained very well by poster WarrenX, and helped me see that we are hidden in Christ.

One of the things that really helped me and still does when I am having anxiety and can often happen again, Is to constantly put positive words over them, the most beautiful praisworthy words, such as LOVE, HOPE, FAITH, ENDURANCE, GOODNESS, any word that will counteract negative words, this really works for me. Then I don't worry about it happening because those other words are more powerfull, I just see them as an enemy that is to be vanquished by the Lords words and not me saying them. It has helped it happen so much less, I also know it is important for us to constanly rely on the Lord, prayer, read His word and be careful what we read and watch for entertainment.

Phillipians 4 v 8 & 9 '
8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. 9 Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.


I hope I make sense, I will be praying for you for the Lord to give you strength beyond all human capasity and to work powerfully and miraculously into your life to overcome and overthrow, all that is coming against you. Every thing is possible with the Lord we must never give up believing that he will help us conquer and will lift us up and make us soar as on wings of eagles, this is his promise to us.

Read all of Isaiah chapter 40 and Ephesians 3 v 20

Thanks Debby, for sharing your heart. We are not alone. Though sometimes we feel that way.

KAL93 said:

Thank you, praying for you also!!

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Thankee, I appreciate that!

KAL93 said:

Lately I've even having these thoughts. Ever since I read about the unforgivable sin it seems all I can think of is ill against the Holy Spirit and god. When I'm praying or singing my mind will replace the words god or Jesus with devil. These are by no means what is in my heart. I'm a devout born again christian and love god with all my heart. These thoughts are consuming my life and effecting it greatly. I can't function right because I'm to busy praying for forgiveness or looking up why this is happening. I'm starting to have doubts that I really know Christ because I'm allowing these thoughts into my head. Is anyone else having these issues?? Please help!!!

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Hello KAL93,

Welcome to Christian Forums. I'm one of the CF chaplains. I'm gratified that you are receiving such good support here in the OCD forum. It speaks highly of everyone involved.

I think you're starting to recognize that it is part of the nature of OCD to tell you bad stuff that isn't true. I know from personal experience that reaffirming the truth while we are being bombarded by negative thoughts is difficult. But we can do it, especially when we have help.

Part of the help we need is peer support such as is being given here. It is truly a blessing and many do not have that.

I always recommend therapy because it has helped me, others that I know, and it has a good track record helping folks with OCD and other disorders.

I want to set your mind at rest by giving you something to read about Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I'll summarize it in a nutshell first. Today, Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is not accepting Jesus Christ as Lord of your life. You have done that so you have not and can not commit the unpardonable sin even though your mind is telling you that you have. Here is a link to some affirming reading on that. What is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

Bottom line is that the intrusive thoughts you are having about God and other matters are your OCD trying to tell you things that are not helpful and are not true. God understands this and doesn't take it personally. We serve a loving God, a just God, a forgiving God and He does not condemn you for having an illness or any illness for that matter.

In your daily prayers ask God for forgiveness of your sins. This covers the OCD thoughts and other matters. Tell Him you are sorry. Ask for His help. He is faithful to provide. God is also faithful to forgive us our sins.

Get therapy to make progress with the OCD. Follow the good advice of your peers. In your study, worship and prayer, listen for God's voice. It will not be condemning of you or your illness. It will be the goodness that you sense.

I pray the very best for you and everyone on this forum.

Faithfully,

CH Sacerdote

I've done it...and not just that, there are also thoughts you can have that arn't obsessive they are more like possessive. When i was younger i got mad at God over a something and i said holy spirit you are a..devil. Then i flung my self on the bed and cryed because I just lost my best friend...or i thought. i did not know the word of God...and what it said about blasphemy. I did not know it was compleatly not forgiveable. But Paul did not know the word and God was able to have mercy on him, so i figured that he could have mercy on me. If God can find a way to have mercy on you he will. He dosn't want people going to hell.

But i doubted him and i got possessed with finding out whether or not i was going to heaven, mostly because I wanted the Lord. I wanted to belong to the Lord and not to the devil. So I asked over and over again...and became obsessed with it...and i blasphemed the holy spirit again by accident and onece because I just had given up...but then i went back and told myself that he is the Holy spirit of God. He dosn't deserve that. And i appologized. The devil truly begain to attack my mind...and I wanted to die just ot to offend God anymore.

A lot of times i will simply ask the Lord by whom i was baptized if i am going to haven....make a sequence of sounds in other tongues that i request so that i can know that i am going to heaven...and he does just that...or i will ask him to kick start me praying in other tongues.

I asked the Lord alot to help ne not to blasphem his spirit and he has been helping me out of it. I told him even if i was going to go to hell I would rather not blasphem his spirit, he's not worthy of it.

GBY'all
Katy