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Fireinfolding · Feb 4, 2013

Yeah, see that when you refuse to speak from yourself and just speak the oracles of God it shows you are prideful, and when your really tapped in you can know this and speak from yourself and throw stones at those who labor in the doctrine

No double honor for you

Keachian · Feb 4, 2013

Fireinfolding said:
Yeah, see that when you refuse to speak from yourself and just speak the oracles of God it shows you are prideful

There is a difference between arranging scripture out of context to say something and quoting scripture, the first is a trap to hide behind ones own eisegesis and call foul saying I'm just quoting scripture.

and when your really tapped in you can know this and speak from yourself and throw stones at those who labor in the doctrine

No double honor for you

When a wolf has its fleece over your eyes you'll likely get eaten.

Fireinfolding · Feb 4, 2013

progmonk said:
There is a difference between arranging scripture out of context to say something and quoting scripture, the first is a trap to hide behind ones own eisegesis and call foul saying I'm just quoting scripture.

Whats your problem with the the original OP? Somethings apparently got your feathers ruffled. Speak to the "Judas went and hanged himself, and the "go therefore and do likewise" (parts)

You can call foul play at scripture posted without pointing out any foul play but thats might be considered okay?

When a wolf has its fleece over your eyes you'll likely get eaten.

I'll try not to get fleeced with a bunch of scriptures posted which make no argument whatsoever. And these posted to observe how some folks react when theres not even much being said (in whatever scriptures are actually posted) in the way they are posted. Theres nothing being argued for (or against) pointed out (or twisted). No one can even point out the teaching in it, folks asking, "whats the point"?

Just to watch the pointlessness, dont folks have bigger fish to fry? I mean honestly...

Who is not sparing whom here? And over what? And see thats the thing, the post was jumped on but for nothing (at all).

Then was accused of showing off (by use of scriptures) of how "tapped in" he is, well its sure better then showing how "tapped out" he is, theres enough of those, so who cares?

How rare it is someone uses more then one verse to show anything, lets make him miserable for saying absolutely nothing from himself on his post and attack him (and cry wolf)

Yeah, I know how the fleece works

seeking Christ · Feb 4, 2013

InSpiritInTruth said:
Thankyou Sis, and all scripture too. Hard to cry heresy when you use only scripture.

Some people still manage

progmonk said:
Eisegesis is easily seen when someone can't stick to context to make their point.

seeking Christ · Feb 4, 2013

Nanopants said:
Some people want the bumpers up in the bowling alley, others want to take their chances without them, and apparently we all want to argue about it.

And then some just walk around while on fire

seeking Christ · Feb 4, 2013

Rev Randy said:
I only saw scripture proceeded by a title. Can't disagree with scripture alone. Can't discuss the point either as I can't see one. Is there a point?

You seem to have caught the point just fine, w/o any need to accuse the brethren. Nice example!

Fireinfolding · Feb 4, 2013

seeking Christ said:
You seem to have caught the point just fine, w/o any need to accuse the brethren. Nice example!

seeking Christ · Feb 4, 2013

sonshine234 said:
No you did it to show how much better you are becaye you think your tapped in and know everything, you did it because of pride

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down

Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DGFuHC75aY

Rev Randy · Feb 4, 2013

sonshine234 said:
No you did it to show how much better you are becaye you think your tapped in and know everything, you did it because of pride

Wow. Which scripture brought you to that conclusion?

InSpiritInTruth · Feb 4, 2013

sonshine234 said:
No you did it to show how much better you are becaye you think your tapped in and know everything, you did it because of pride

Really? How dare me qoute, or even speak the Word of God in such a way! (away with such a fellow as myself)

InSpiritInTruth · Feb 4, 2013

progmonk said:
There is a difference between arranging scripture out of context to say something and quoting scripture, the first is a trap to hide behind ones own eisegesis and call foul saying I'm just quoting scripture.

When a wolf has its fleece over your eyes you'll likely get eaten.

Some people of certain denominations are offended with certain parts of scripture because it goes against their own carnal way of thinking, and it also goes against their distorted doctrine, which is of men. That is why they get so upset over certain verses of scripture. (you being a prime example of this very Truth).

Now I could post another batch of nothing but scripture on another topic and get a whole new set of accusers, even though it would all be scripture and not my own words or personal interpretation.

Meaning many people still stumble at that stumbling stone, and are also offended in that Rock of offence who's name is called the WORD OF GOD.

Matthew 11:6
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

seeking Christ · Feb 4, 2013

InSpiritInTruth said:
Really? How dare me qoute, or even speak the Word of God in such a way! (away with such a fellow as myself)

Hey now, act appropriately. This is NOT the Tyndale thread ^_^

Rev Randy · Feb 4, 2013

InSpiritInTruth said:
Really? How dare me qoute, or even speak the Word of God in such a way! (away with such a fellow as myself)

I am stacking a pile of sticks beneath the stake as we speak. ^_^

Who's gotta match?

Fireinfolding · Feb 4, 2013

Rev Randy said:
I am stacking a pile of sticks beneath the stake as we speak. Who's gotta match?

((Rubs hands together))) in my evil eye...."me has the match" (((((evil laugh))))

InSpiritInTruth · Feb 4, 2013

Fireinfolding said:
((Rubs hands together))) in my evil eye...."me has the match" (((((evil laugh))))

Make sure it's good and hot now.

Daniel 3:27
And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

I ain't scared.

Fireinfolding · Feb 4, 2013

Out of context verses again...

Jerm 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

Likewise...

2Thes 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. (see verse prior)

What do wicked men do ? They set a trap, they catch men.

Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

Nothing new under the sun

Can words lay in wait for anothers blood? Yes

Prov 12:6 The words of the wicked are to lie in wait for blood: but the mouth of the upright shall deliver them.

Their whole purpose...

Mat 22:15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

The fellowship of his sufferings, So consider...

Heb 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

Let us not beholdeth ourselves, and then goeth our way forgetting what the heck we look like when we do this

Fireinfolding · Feb 4, 2013

InSpiritInTruth said:
Make sure it's good and hot now.

Daniel 3:27
And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

I ain't scared.

Yeah, and neither does the second death

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Ever notice the wording is similar?

Daniel 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Not hurt

Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Thats for another thread, but I always thought that was sorta "neat"

A lake of it in contrast to a furnace, and a FLAME OF FIRE takes them up too. huh?

My match wont kill ya so fear ye not my matches ^_^

seeking Christ · Feb 4, 2013

Matchmaker matchmaker make me a match, catch me a catch (What's the next line?)

sonshine234 · Feb 4, 2013

progmonk said:
There is a difference between arranging scripture out of context to say something and quoting scripture, the first is a trap to hide behind ones own eisegesis and call foul saying I'm just quoting scripture.

Exactly, that is what I was saying. Anyone can quote Scripture but it takes a better person to study and tell others what you think and to be able to take constructive criticism in order to discuss. Most people aren't able to do that because their ideas became sacrosanct to them and any discussion would be next to blasphemy especially on a forum where the tendency is to display superior knowledge of Scripture.

Then when those people get called out they hide behind "people being scared of Scripture or offended by Scripture", thus they demonstrate their superior position that they think they hold and are able to put down others quite easily who may have a different opinion because to them only their opinion matters and all else is wrong.

InSpiritInTruth · Feb 4, 2013

Fireinfolding said:
Yeah, and neither does the second death

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Ever notice the wording is similar?

Daniel 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Not hurt

Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Thats for another thread, but I always thought that was sorta "neat"

A lake of it in contrast to a furnace, and a FLAME OF FIRE takes them up too. huh?

My match wont kill ya so fear ye not my matches

Flame of fire reminds me of that fiery bush that was not consumed by the fire.

Exodus 3:2
And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

And I know you wouldn't hurt me, my Fireinfolding friend.

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