If Obama had a son...

[serious] · Jan 28, 2013

lol,

Obama: I'm more worried about college players. NFL players have unions and generally good compensation; they can make informed decisions about the risks
MZ: OBAMA SAYS COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN'T MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES!
Me: He's saying they've got unions and compensation
MZ: so only people in unions can make their own choices?
The rest of the thread: :doh:

Rion · Jan 28, 2013

We should encourage this. The more politicians dilly-dally with such things, the better off we are as a country, because it means something more important is being left alone.

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

DrkSdBls said:
That's only "Apparent" to YOU. No one with any reason and common sense would come to such a conclusion.

Then it's odd that he doesn't view college students as grown ups. Remember, colleges have men's and women's sports programs, not boys' and girls' programs

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

Redac said:
The entire context of the statement makes it clear he's contrasting the compensation professionals receive and the aid they get with that of college players.

The context was being grown up and having the ability to make decisions :wave:

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

iluvatar5150 said:
You could only come to that conclusion if you either don't understand English or your hatred of Obama is so blinding that you may as well not understand English.

Here's that second paragraph again:

Seriously. (this goes to MachZero, too) Are you lazy? Are you trolling? Do you find the man so distasteful that you just make up stuff about him to fuel your hatred? What is it that keeps you from missing such an obvious point? Do you really not understand what he's saying? Because talking to some of you guys is getting to be absurd.

-Dan.

Yes, let's read the paragraph again

"I tend to be more worried about college players than NFL players in the sense that the NFL players have a union, they're grown men, they can make some of these decisions on their own, and most of them are well-compensated for the violence they do to their bodies. You read some of these stories about college players who undergo some of these same problems with concussions and so forth and then have nothing to fall back on. That's something that I'd like to see the NCAA think about."

No doubt that implies that college men are not really grown up, not capable of making decisions on their own

rambot · Jan 28, 2013

There are Plenty of things Obama has been a hypocrite about that the need to make/conflate things makes those doing the work seem infantile.

Redac · Jan 28, 2013

MachZer0 said:
Then it's odd that he doesn't view college students as grown ups. Remember, colleges have men's and women's sports programs, not boys' and girls' programs

My high school had men's and women's teams too, but that doesn't make 15 and 16 year olds men or women. The rest of it is you being deliberately obtuse.

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

Redac said:
My high school had men's and women's teams too, but that doesn't make 15 and 16 year olds men or women. The rest of it is you being deliberately obtuse.

Your high school may have cutely called their teams mens' and womens' but they were misnomers.

Redac · Jan 28, 2013

MachZer0 said:
Your high school may have cutely called their teams mens' and womens' but they were misnomers.

Which goes to show that what a program calls itself has no real relevance to the discussion.

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

Douger said:
He would look like Trayvon Martin, and apparently might not get to play football.
President Obama: âIf I had a son, Iâd have to think long and hard before I let him play footballâ | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports

Sean Smith and Tyrone Woods had sons but they will never get to be involved in the decision of whether or not they will play football

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

Redac said:
Which goes to show that what a program calls itself has no real relevance to the discussion.

However, it doesn't justify insinuating that college football players are not grown men capable of making their own decisions

Erth · Jan 28, 2013

Why does Obama not have a son?

MachZer0 · Jan 28, 2013

Erth said:
Why does Obama not have a son?

Maybe he didn't want to punish Michelle for the third time, hoping for a boy

DrkSdBls · Jan 28, 2013

Erth said:
Why does Obama not have a son?

Probably because he doesn't really have a say in the matter.

If Obama had a son...

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