Jindal urges GOP to stop being ‘stupid’

Loudmouth said:

As long as we ignore Jindal's campaign to force creationism into the science class.

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A lot of intelligent people are creationists. It doesn't mean they're stupid. And it doesn't mean that when they speak on issues other than science, they're automatically wrong.

DaisyDay said:

Why would someone born and raised in Louisiana have an Indian accent?

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You know, I was thinking "I don't remember him having a foreign accent" but i wasn't quite sure enough to call him on it and not quite not-lazy enough to check. Thanks for letting me continue to be lazy.

Mr. Pedantic said:

A lot of intelligent people are creationists. It doesn't mean they're stupid. And it doesn't mean that when they speak on issues other than science, they're automatically wrong.

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I just find it ironic that Jindal is telling Republicans to tone down the crazy talk while he is trying to force creationism into public schools. It's a bit of the ol' "pot, meet kettle".

Loudmouth said:

I just find it ironic that Jindal is telling Republicans to tone down the crazy talk while he is trying to force creationism into public schools. It's a bit of the ol' "pot, meet kettle".

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Would it totally freak you out if I told you that Creationism, to a lot of Americans, is an entirely sane idea?

Mr. Pedantic said:

Would it totally freak you out if I told you that Creationism, to a lot of Americans, is an entirely sane idea?

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A lot of Americans believe in a lot of crazy stuff. No, it wouldn't freak me out, but it does make me shake my head at times.

Sistrin said:

Dishonest drivel.

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Not according to the GOP candidate lineup in 2011.

The low information voter voted on issues like the "Obamaphone".

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Dishonest drivel.

kermit said:

The GOP has become the party of bumper sticker politics. Unnuanced ideas that can be summed up in bumper-sticker slogans.

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While I agree that politics has become more about slogans than content, certainly you realize how stupid it is to try to depict this as a GOP-exclusive trait?

Do I really need to bring up all the "hope & change" and "moving forward" stuff?

miniverchivi said:

Do I really need to bring up all the "hope & change" and "moving forward" stuff?

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There's a Difference between making Bumper Stickers and Slogans based on your Campaign's Model.

And Basing your Campaign Model on bumper stickers and slogans.

The GOP is the one who chose to do the latter.

DrkSdBls said:

There's a Difference between making Bumper Stickers and Slogans based on your Campaign's Model.

And Basing your Campaign Model on bumper stickers and slogans.

The GOP is the one who chose to do the latter.

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Actually, bot sides do it, even Obama.

DrkSdBls said:

There's a Difference between making Bumper Stickers and Slogans based on your Campaign's Model.

And Basing your Campaign Model on bumper stickers and slogans.

The GOP is the one who chose to do the latter.

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Both parties do it...the dems just had a better script writing and marketing team.

miniverchivi said:

Both parties do it...the dems just had a better script writing and marketing team.

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And better everything else too. Especially Victory Parties!

He is living in fantasy land if he thinks the Republicans will ever get the minority vote without becoming Democrats.

Creech said:

He is living in fantasy land if he thinks the Republicans will ever get the minority vote without becoming Democrats.

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The Republican are fully capable of getting the minority vote. Here's a hint: don't insult our intelligence and work ethic.

The GOP just refuses to acknowledge the valid points of their opposition or their mistakes.

Fact: MAJORITY of Americans are in support of gay rights, every scientific poll shows this.

So, when the GOP is anti-gay rights, they don't do themselves any favors.

Fact: MAJORITY of Americans believe strongly in the Separation of Church and State

So when the GOP basis their logic for wanting to do "something" on the bible it will automatically be against the majority of the public


During the debates the public absolutely LOVED Ron Paul because of his candor, intelligence, and honesty. Ron Paul did a better job of representing true GOP platform issues than the GOP.

If the GOP was smart, they would assemble a Ron Paul-esque candidate that was viable. Truth is, Ron Paul is too libertarian to be viable (as far as his isolationist tendencies). All the GOP has to do is be 75% Ron Paul and the GOP party would completely kick ass...

Imo, America needs the GOP platform, its just that right now, the GOP is more about politics than their own platform and the US public is sick of politics. Unfortunately, GOP just can't see it. They believe their politics IS their platform and that isn't true (if that makes any sense).

Lastly, the GOP is the party of "no". And being the party of "no" rarely works. That is why John Kerry lost to Bush. Even though Bush did an absolutely terrible job, Kerry didn't offer a real alternative. All he did was point at Bush and said, "He sucks and he's destroying America..." and guess what, he lost. GOP tried to do the same thing with Obama. They put out all the "Socialist/Communist and Hitler ads and run around screaming "Obama is destroying the country" and guess what... they lost.

Being the party of "no" is just not effective. You can't just point out the problems, you need to point out solutions and positive courses of actions. And right now, the GOP is anything but positive...

Mr. Pedantic said:

A lot of intelligent people are creationists. It doesn't mean they're stupid. And it doesn't mean that when they speak on issues other than science, they're automatically wrong.

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True, but at least for me, it does call their ability to make decisions based on facts into question. At least as far as things concerning their religion are concerned.

dgiharris said:

The GOP just refuses to acknowledge the valid points of their opposition or their mistakes.

Fact: MAJORITY of Americans are in support of gay rights, every scientific poll shows this.

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I would just like to point out the phrase "scientific poll" is an oxymoron.

So, when the GOP is anti-gay rights, they don't do themselves any favors.

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The fact that they're anti-gay rights is fine. It's a moral position that they have every right to take, but to have it as an official party policy is very strange to me. I thought Republicans were supposed to be like "leave government out of this".

Fact: MAJORITY of Americans believe strongly in the Separation of Church and State

So when the GOP basis their logic for wanting to do "something" on the bible it will automatically be against the majority of the public

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I would like to point out that poll results vary greatly depending on the wording and prior questions in the poll.

Also, in my experience most people don't practice this fervour for separation of church and state that you claim. Sure, people are for church-state separation, but the majority of Americans are Christian, and when someone says "we should do this because the Bible says we should" it inherently makes sense to them.

TheYoungTurk said:

The Republican are fully capable of getting the minority vote. Here's a hint: don't insult our intelligence and work ethic.

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Hmmm, seems to me that it wasn't Romney who said "You didn't build that". Could be wrong, though...

apostolic34 said:

Hmmm, seems to me that it wasn't Romney who said "You didn't build that". Could be wrong, though...

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Correct. It was Romney who took the line out of context and used it as his campaign slogan. It was just one more reason he failed so badly. However, in the end we find out he did not want to be President, so such blaring mistakes are now totally understood.

AirPo said:

The best part is imagining how that sounds with an Indian accent.



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Bobby Jindal is an American with an American accent of the English language, so could you please elaborate on how that best part of things as you perceive them has anything at all to do with reality?

dgiharris said:

Fact: MAJORITY of Americans are in support of gay rights, every scientific poll shows this.

So, when the GOP is anti-gay rights, they don't do themselves any favors.

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Do you have a link to one of these studies?

While I personally support gay rights, I don't know if saying "majority" is entirely accurate.

The results of Prop 8 in Cali back in 2008 should be a good indicator of that.

If California (one of the most liberal states in the union) had a vote and 53% of the citizens that voted (it had 80% voter turnout), said that marriage is between a man and a woman, that's a very revealing statistic. If the majority of the people in California don't support it, I highly doubt that the majority in the rest of the country do.