Is drinking coffee a sin?

Are you Mormon? Cause that is a Mormon belief and is very legalistic and stupid.

You can drink coffee and just like anything else in life it should be in moderation, and should not become an idol in your life.

amandatea said:

The reason coffee drinkers are cranky in the morning before coffee is because it is an addiction. Before you drink coffee, you are going through withdrawal. It may not be as dangerous an addiction as cocaine or heroin but it is an addiction nonetheless. Sugar (I'm talking about refined sugar, not sugar your body gets from whole foods) is also an addiction for most people in the first world, especially children. There are many studies and documentaries about this if you don't believe me.

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I have coffee only once in awhile. IF I am super tired. So is that an addiction? No. One can become addicted to anything. You can get addicted to any form of stimuli. That includes checking the mail, driving a car, sleeping, eating, watching TV, staring at clouds, mowing the lawn, ad infinitum. Everything must be done in moderation.

Girder of Loins said:

I have coffee only once in awhile. IF I am super tired. So is that an addiction? No. One can become addicted to anything. You can get addicted to any form of stimuli. That includes checking the mail, driving a car, sleeping, eating, watching TV, staring at clouds, mowing the lawn, ad infinitum. Everything must be done in moderation.

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I wasn't talking about people who drink coffee once in a while. I was talking about people who have coffee everyday, once or a few times a day. Use some logic. I was talking about the people who feel crappy before they have coffee in the morning (I thought that was fairly obvious from the wording I used.) Coffee isn't as awesome as people think it is - it's awesome to them because they've become acclimated to it and now their body tells them they need it.

"Everything" must not be done in moderation. There are many things we do which we have no need to do, we just do them because we think we should because everyone else does them.

Ok first off where do you get the idea that eating, drinking, smoking, etc is a sin.

I do not see any of these in the 10 commandments:



And Jesus summed these up in Love the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, and soul. And love your neighbor as yourself.

These to also have nothing to do with harming yourself. Wait before you go on a rant. I am not saying hurt yourself, But maybe you should ask yourself why you like to allow the doctrines of man to put a yoke around your neck.

The only bible verse that could even come close to your argument is:

1Cor 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."

Now sure if you want to use this one verse to condemn everyone who has ever done any harm to their body then sure go for it. But please do not make a biblical stand on one verse.

Also for arguments sake I would like to say that even food you eat and drink is bad for now a days have you ever even read your ingrediants.

Yeah speaks of defiling our bodies are God temple, which is intersting too that Jesus elsewhere says what comes out of a mans mouth defileth the man. Whereas James says the tongue is a fire and defileth the whole body too.

So defiling "the temple" (the body) and what comes out of a mans mouth defiles "the man" even as the tongue defileth "the whole body" (also).

Its easier to control what goes into the mouth then what comes out of it (which is that which defileth).

amandatea said:

I wasn't talking about people who drink coffee once in a while. I was talking about people who have coffee everyday, once or a few times a day. Use some logic. I was talking about the people who feel crappy before they have coffee in the morning (I thought that was fairly obvious from the wording I used.) Coffee isn't as awesome as people think it is - it's awesome to them because they've become acclimated to it and now their body tells them they need it.

"Everything" must not be done in moderation. There are many things we do which we have no need to do, we just do them because we think we should because everyone else does them.

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I apologize. The local SDA group in my town is completely against coffee, and I put words into your mouth based on my presuppositions. I apologize.

Ok first off where do you get the idea that eating, drinking, smoking, etc is a sin.

I do not see any of these in the 10 commandments:

1) Thou shalt have no other God.
2) Thou shalt not make or worship graven images.
3)Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain.
4) Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.
5)Honor your father and your mother.
6) Thou shalt not kill.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8)Thou shalt not steal.
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness.
10) Thou shalt not covet.
(Exodus Chapter 20:1-17)kjv

And Jesus summed these up in Love the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, and soul. And love your neighbor as yourself.

These to also have nothing to do with harming yourself. Wait before you go on rant. I am not saying hurt yourself, But maybe you should ask yourself why you like to allow the doctrines of man to put a yoke around your neck.

The only bible verse that could even come close to your argument is:

1Cor 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."

Now sure if you want to use this one verse to condemn everyone who has ever done any harm to their body then sure go for it. But please do not make a biblical stand on one verse.

Also for arguments sake I would like to say that even food you eat and drink is bad for now a days have you ever even read your ingrediants.

Deuteronomy 21:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Proverbs 28:7 He that keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of gluttons shames his

Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be overcharged with gluttony, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and you come upon that day.

Anything that u drink or eat in excess is gluttony therefor a sin.

A great number of people seem to think that God is just sitting there waiting to catch us doing something wrong so He has an excuse to throw us in Hell. Anyone thinking like that does not truly understand the nature of God or why He gives us rules/guidelines for life.

I don't believe we should ingest a lot of things that people do - but it's not because of a "legalistic" view. It's because God gave us rules for our own health and happiness. Some things may not be a sin, but they could be very unwise. If we follow these guidelines which are set forth, it will benefit us. It's not to make life boring or miserable. I think a lot of people have this attitude of "Well, I want to [insert activity/habit/eating or drinking whatever here] so don't you dare tell me I shouldn't."

Of course we have free choice to obey or not, and those are decisions we each have to make for ourselves, but do we really think about the consequences of our decisions? When you have to ask "Is this a sin?" - think about whether it will truly benefit you in the long run and whether it brings glory to God.

Another thing to think about - did you make your body? Or did God? Do you think maybe that God knows what it needs and what will keep it healthy and strong? Do you think that it needs whatever certain thing you want to give it or do to it? Is it really something that helps you and makes God happy? Or is it something that you want to do to bring yourself temporary pleasure? If God made your body, do you really have the right to shove whatever you want in or on it? Or should you maybe have a bit of respect for Him who created it?

I believe living in service to God is a holistic thing. It's not just affecting little parts of life, it is life, itself. If you heed his advice and commandments, He WILL bless you. The bible states this in many places. It's all because He loves you and he wants the best for you. How can following some superficial or chemical fun give you anything better than what the Creator of the universe can give you?

If this post seems judgmental, it is not meant to be at all. I wrote this post in hopes that people will understand why we are warned against certain behaviours or habits. I also wrote this post to myself as much as to anyone else.

Girder of Loins said:

I apologize. The local SDA group in my town is completely against coffee, and I put words into your mouth based on my presuppositions. I apologize.

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That's fine. I personally am against coffee, BUT I'm not going to tell others what to do. I was just talking about a well known scientific fact.

I am also against shoving beliefs in other people's faces or down their throats. My intent wasn't to tell people they are idiots if they drink coffee. I was just giving information. When people have information, they can decide for themselves what they want to do.

How drinking coffee is sin where alcohol is not sin.

Health studies are not the basis of our knowledge for what isn't a sin, after all, there is health benefits for sex.

Drinking coffee is not a sin as far as I know, since how can drinking coffee be displeasing to God and cause you to miss the mark or transgress his holy laws?

Though, if you wish to draw closer to God and become more Christ-like, feel free to get rid of coffee from your diet if it helps you with your relationship with Christ Our God.

Yeshwa Younis said:

How drinking coffee is sin where alcohol is not sin.

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Very good point.

Calling coffee (which is good for you in doses of up to about 4 cups a day) a sin is very silly, in my view.

Nothing whatsoever in the Bible justifies calling coffee a sin. In fact, it smacks of wannabe Pharisaism.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_coffee and http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/coffee-new-health-food

Fireinfolding said:

No you really dont do you?

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So why not restate it - maybe I was being particularly slow when I read it or maybe you worded it in a way that was vague. Either way rewording it might help?

amandatea said:

I believe living in service to God is a holistic thing. It's not just affecting little parts of life, it is life, itself. If you heed his advice and commandments, He WILL bless you. The bible states this in many places. It's all because He loves you and he wants the best for you. How can following some superficial or chemical fun give you anything better than what the Creator of the universe can give you?

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In principle I agree with you but to describe coffee as "some superficial or chemical fun" is a bit silly to be honest. I drink coffee because I like the taste of it, just like I drink beer or whisky or brandy or grapefruit juice because I like the taste.

Drinking a bottle of whisky in one evening would definitely fall into the "superficial fun" category (although the morning after definitely wouldn't). Drinking a single shot of whisky with some friends is a different thing entirely.

contango said:

In principle I agree with you but to describe coffee as "some superficial or chemical fun" is a bit silly to be honest. I drink coffee because I like the taste of it, just like I drink beer or whisky or brandy or grapefruit juice because I like the taste.

Drinking a bottle of whisky in one evening would definitely fall into the "superficial fun" category (although the morning after definitely wouldn't). Drinking a single shot of whisky with some friends is a different thing entirely.

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Well, by the end of my little rant, I wasn't particularly talking about coffee - although I don't see any need for it - I was just talking about modern lifestyle in general - there seems to be arising a lot of threads about "Is ___________ a sin?". It was sort of a sidetrack but.. yeah...

I PETER 5

6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: 7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. 8 Be sober , be vigilant ; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about , seeking whom he may devour : 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while , make you perfect , stablish , strengthen , settle you

It's fine as long as you don't get addicted to the caffeine in it

contango said:

So why not restate it - maybe I was being particularly slow when I read it or maybe you worded it in a way that was vague. Either way rewording it might help?

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You blew past conscience and I cant help you there.

And I myself have raise the point in the past that the scriptures do not mention various things. For example, the scripture doesnt pepsi either but we know that this sugar water carbonated concoction exists too. In fact, when someone made me laugh (while I was drinking it) I have had it shoot through my nose.

I had mentioned "concience" in my post before Moses and Jesus Christ and you went right into MY bible does not mention (this that or the other thing)... MY bible... MY bible...etc

But the bible does mentions "concience" within it.

Coffee is often served by many of the churches and its the least of folks problems. Even Jesus said its what "comes out" of a mans mouth which is that which defileth the man.

And I suppose cleaning first the inside of the cup (to some) means the cup they use for coffee (and that which "enters into" a man). I do acknowledge both mindsets.

forGod1 said:

Since it isn't good for you, like smoking?

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Actually, there have been several scientific reports as of late, that puts coffee as having some benefits besides the caffiene stimulant for energy.

More to the point , anything that we put into our Bodies which IS in fact dangerous, would be considered AT LEAST unwise ... if not a full out sin. But i think more accurately, drinking coffee would fall into the category of 'Freedom in Christ' as far as personal choices that are permissible and optional . Its something we each need to decide on incorporating our God given moral conscience and wisdom.