Do Genesis literalists also take the rest of the Bible literally?

How much of the Bible do you take literally?

  • All of it, including the examples below

  • Some of it, including Genesis, but not the examples below

  • None of it, the Bible was written in a different cultural and social setting

  • Most of it, but neither Genesis nor the examples below


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CabVet

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Ok first off your taking the whole word of God out of context, but I'll do my best.

You should do that with Genesis too, not just the parts that you don't agree with.

4) They didn't wear pants in bible times.
They didn't know about evolution either.

6) Your taking the old testament out of context.

Please read the passage below and tell me how that statement is "taking the Bible out of context".

Leviticus 15:19 And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. 20 And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. 21 And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. 22 And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

Have you seen a rainbow in the sky lately that should tell you right there how liteal the bible is: Chapter 9 of Genesis a eternal covenant with all living creatures on the planet look it up.

I know enough about physics to know that if there is light and water there will be a rainbow, no need for God's interference there. We can make one in a lab if you want to.
 
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I know enough about physics to know that if there is light and water there will be a rainbow,
Not in the clouds though.

Genesis 9:16a And the bow shall be in the cloud;

Remember? prior to the Flood, it had never rained before.

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.


One could see a rainbow through the mist, but never in the sky.
... no need for God's interference there.
Interesting word choice.

If you build a treehouse for your children to play in, are you 'interfering?'
We can make one in a lab if you want to.
Anyone can "Jannes & Jambres" something God did ... to a point; but unlike the magicians in Pharaoh's court, who were wiser than scientists today, they knew when they had reached their limits with God.

Exodus 8:18 And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not: so there were lice upon man, and upon beast.
Exodus 8:19a Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God:
 
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Listen dude or dudet judge nothing before the time. The Israelites misunderstood the Old Testament just as we do today otherwise they would not of crucified The Lord.

Or perhaps they knew their Holy book pretty well... later self-serving attempts to reinterpret it notwithstanding.

How about this brain teaser just perhaps Jesus fulfilled the Torah's 613 laws because the Jewish people of His time misunderstood them.
Perhaps -- but of course that would mean that God had no problems letting them get it so wrong for centuries beforehand.

Just perhaps He showed us the correction of the law in this simple sentance. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Doesn't do much for the justice system, does it? I see plenty of stones being cast left, right, and center.

Have you seen a rainbow in the sky lately that should tell you right there how liteal the bible is: Chapter 9 of Genesis a eternal covenant with all living creatures on the planet look it up.
Indeed -- God's promise that he'd never again obliterate us all with a flood.

See? There's a dark side of the covenant.

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Remember? prior to the Flood, it had never rained before.

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

"...and there was not a man to till the ground"

Uh hu, and according to that there were no people before the flood either. ;)
 
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Yes, I don't agree.

Prior to the Flood, it had never rained.

QV this article that I disagree with: There Was No Rain Before the Flood - Answers in Genesis

Which is an excellent reason not to take any of Genesis literally. Use you head man. Assuming everything was created 6000 years ago, do you really believe all life survived for 2500 years without rain.

Also, let's go back to Genesis 7:4

"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth."

That passage in no way suggests that it had never rained before. All God is saying that Noah has seven days before he makes it rain for 40 days and nights.

Now tell me, just who is looking at Genesis non literally now! Hummmm?
 
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Which is an excellent reason not to take any of Genesis literally. Use you head man. Assuming everything was created 6000 years ago, do you really believe all life survived for 2500 years without rain.
Yes.

When God runs His lawn sprinklers, the earth flourishes.
Also, let's go back to Genesis 7:4

"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth."

That passage in no way suggests that it had never rained before.
Fair enough ... it doesn't suggest that it had never rained before.

I don't use that passage anyway; I use Genesis 2:5, coupled with Hebrews 11:7.
All God is saying that Noah has seven days before he makes it rain for 40 days and nights.
No argument there.
Now tell me, just who is looking at Genesis non literally now! Hummmm?
Evolutionists?
 
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Yes.

When God runs His lawn sprinklers, the earth flourishes.

Fair enough ... it doesn't suggest that it had never rained before.

I don't use that passage anyway; I use Genesis 2:5, coupled with Hebrews 11:7.

No argument there.

Evolutionists?
We don't cook the book AV simply because we do not use the Book (Bible). It has no scientific value. Why cook it????
 
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Interesting word choice.

If you build a treehouse for your children to play in, are you 'interfering?'

A rainbow is not a treehouse, rainbows don't need to be "built", if there is water in the atmosphere and light they simply happen.
 
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THIS THREAD QUESTION IS FOR EVERYBODY, anybody can answer and participate in the discussion.

Do those who literally interpret the passages in Genesis 1-9 also literally interpret these passages:

1 - Women should not teach or have authority over men.
2 - Nobody should work on the Sabbath.
3 - Pork and shellfish are unclean and should not be eaten.
4 - Women should not wear pants.
5 - Nobody should wear clothes woven with different fabrics.
6 - Nobody should sit in the same place a woman during her period has sat.

And so on...
Women should not teach or have authority over men. Older women are to teach the younger women how to love their husbands. Younger women are to teach the children. If they were doing what God ordained for them to do they would not have time to do what God is not calling them to do.

We should not work on the Sabbath if we can at all avoid it. We should not eat pork or shell fish. It is estimated that 70% of the pork in this country is unsafe to eat. The shell is a filter and often filters contaminates out of the water. If the water is pure then this is not as much of a problem. Women should not wear mans clothing and man should not wear woman's clothing. The mixing of fibers has to do with natural fiber. Esp wool and cotton. Yes women are considered to be unclean during their menstruation and should refrain from sexual activity during this time of cleaning and purification.

This is a rather small pratt list. There has got to be more then just this.
 
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Women should not teach or have authority over men. Older women are to teach the younger women how to love their husbands. Younger women are to teach the children. If they were doing what God ordained for them to do they would not have time to do what God is not calling them to do.
I take it then that you do not believe "Wife abuse" exists eh:confused: I was brought up to respect women as equals and in fact to respect them even more as they are our mothers. You may say anything you want about me or my father but not my mother.

Perhaps you also believe in the original meaning of the "Rule of thumb" too (in the 14th century the king declared that a man may beat his wife with a rod no thicker than the thumb). How is what you say any different to what the Taliban are saying about women?

Pray tell me Jamin; What year and century is this?
 
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A rainbow is not a treehouse, rainbows don't need to be "built", if there is water in the atmosphere and light they simply happen.

Quite rarely. They only appear clearly during rain fall. They don't appear when dew is formed.
 
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I take it then that you do not believe "Wife abuse" exists eh:confused: I was brought up to respect women as equals and in fact to respect them even more as they are our mothers. You may say anything you want about me or my father but not my mother. Perhaps you also believe in the original meaning of the "Rule of thumb" too (in the 14th century the king declared that a man may beat his wife with a rod no thicker than the thumb). How is what you say any different to what the Taliban are saying about women? Pray tell me Jamin; What year and century is this?

Men are to treat women as part of their own selves. As if part of their own body.
They should be willing to sacrifice their own lives for their wife.
That's part of marriage training that comes with getting married.
 
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Which is an excellent reason not to take any of Genesis literally. Use you head man. Assuming everything was created 6000 years ago, do you really believe all life survived for 2500 years without rain.

I don't know what Creation date was, but yes, dew will water the ground and plants. Some plants get all of their water from condensation on the leaves and most are designed for catching condensation.

Its possible that before The Flood, much of the (flood) water remained in the atmosphere (as the scriptures say). This would have kept the dew point much closer to the average temperature resulting in nightly dewfall.

Read the scriptures as if they were true in order to make sense of it. If you assume it's wrong, you miss out on the clever details.
"Let there be a space between the waters, to separate the waters of the heavens from the waters of the earth."


http://eps.berkeley.edu.Plants & Dew Moisture.pdf

Dew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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