Is there Proof for Creationism?

Is there any factual proof of Creationism?

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Nope and there will not be proof. Just like the theory of evolution there will not be proof. There will only be evidence and that is what make the two different IMO one (theory of evolution) has more evidence than the other (which has none).

Originally posted by Arikay
Good point.

To the creationists: What about evidence than?

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What about it? Are you asking me what evidence creationist have?

Originally posted by Arikay
nope, just using the post to talk to others as well.

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Oh I see.

If there's no proof why ask? I know, we come to a christain forum and ask a question there is not evidence to to start an arguement. Did I get it right? I'm sure you did not post this to learn something now did you?

Originally posted by ikester7579
If there's no proof why ask? I know, we come to a christain forum and ask a question there is not evidence to to start an arguement. Did I get it right? I'm sure you did not post this to learn something now did you?

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Good point.

And if I answered, it would be down played in demeaning tones is usually the norm. looking to learn? I see questions but the answers you don't won't so why ask? Admit it, there's no answer that could be given here on creation that you would take as fact. You would not believe it's source or it would be out dated. Right?

Dear Lord, Forgive me for my words here today for I have answered in the flesh and not the spirit. I pray those here will forgive me as I forgive them. I pray for their protection and for their families. May you give me wisdom not to answer with haste. In Jesus name Amen.

Arikay;

 

Proof for creationism.  My Lord told me so.

His love and guiding hand are constantly moving me towrd the narrow path. 

I have prayed and he has answered

Scripture

Jesus

When the Holy Spirit hits you....you can do nothing but believe...Amen!!!!

Oh wait...none of this is valid to you, so it can't be entered as evidence.   Darn you win...stay in the dark....I will continue to bask in his light!

The problem is that there is no evidence for creation that does not equaly support evolution and as far as evidence goes evolution has far more backing it up than any other theory. So to creationists evidence has become unimportant because it does not support their opinion.

Many will site the Bible or the Holy Spirit or God as telling them that special creation is true, but there is a problem with that. Many who do read the Bible, and claim to have a relation with God and/or the Holy Spirit that believe they have been told just the opposite. Myself for one. So since they discount the importance of evidence we are only left with a battle of opinions and one can never win a battle that is only based on what one "feels" is right.

Originally posted by Defending Our Lord
Proof for creationism.  My Lord told me so.

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If that is all it takes, then Genesis proves that the moonlandings were a hoax. The Bible also proves that bats are birds, that rabbits chew their cud, that demons cause disease. . . .

Originally posted by Arikay
Is there any factual proof of Creationism?

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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.  Try going to Answers in Genesis  or the Institute for Creation Research.

Here's a quick list for you:

FAQ

Anthropology

Astronomy

Genetics

Geology

Information Theory

Origin of Life

Radiometric Dating

Clue,

AiG and ICR are not objective sources for facts and evidence. That is because they clearly state in their statements of faith/mission statements that if evidence conflicts with their biblical interpretation that the evidence must be wrong, not the interpretation. In otherwords, the validity of data is determined by wheather if fits into their religious belief. And if there is one truth about science, it is that its accuracy cannont be determined by emotion, philosophy, politics, or religion.

Can you offer any evidence that would lead an objective observer, ignorant of scriputre and biblical teachings, to conclude that special creation accounts for the diveristy of life and/or that the world is young?

Good question Arikay! The only way I can answer you is to point out that things just don't happen because they happen. All evidence shows that things happen for a reason because of laws.

We know that the universe is governed by several fundamental physical laws, electromagnetic forces, gravity, conservation of mass and energy, etc. The activities of our universe depends upon these laws just like the computer were useing depends on the hardware with it's instruction written down. On that note I submitt to you that a creator had to first set these laws into motion before anything of mass and energy happend.



 

Originally posted by RufusAtticus
AiG and ICR are not objective sources for facts and evidence. That is because they clearly state in their statements of faith/mission statements that if evidence conflicts with their biblical interpretation that the evidence must be wrong, not the interpretation. In otherwords, the validity of data is determined by wheather if fits into their religious belief. And if there is one truth about science, it is that its accuracy cannont be determined by emotion, philosophy, politics, or religion.

Can you offer any evidence that would lead an objective observer, ignorant of scriputre and biblical teachings, to conclude that special creation accounts for the diveristy of life and/or that the world is young?

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I'm not going to discuss Facts vs. Interpretation and Biblical bias vs. Naturalistic bias in this thread.  Suffice it to say, I disagree with the implications of your above statement based on those grounds.