Now your an expert on ice cores? I think the argument is that one layer represents one snow storm, not a whole season. This is the same discussion we have on the trees that are suppose to be 6,000 years old.
No Jamin, that is incorrect.
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Now your an expert on ice cores? I think the argument is that one layer represents one snow storm, not a whole season. This is the same discussion we have on the trees that are suppose to be 6,000 years old.
The question is do we trust the so called experts. W
what reason do we have to trust them?
It does not matter to me. The nanodiamond layer is right where I need it to be. You say the volcanoes line up where they should be. So I guess there is no problem.Why would you not trust the experts. What evidence do you have not to trust the experts.
Answers in genesis seems to deal with all of that. So what is the problem?
Do Greenland Ice Cores Show over One Hundred Thousand Years of Annual Layers? - Answers in Genesis
Now your an expert on ice cores?
It does not matter to me. The nanodiamond layer is right where I need it to be.
You say the volcanoes line up where they should be. So I guess there is no problem.
I do not associate any event with the comet itself. It is just a marker. Just like[FONT=arial, sans-serif] Apophis is a marker. This helps me to establish that the dates we are using are correct. But by all means you tell me, when do you think the Holocene extinction took place and when do you think what they call the Neolithic Revolution began?[/FONT] For me 12,900 years ago is as good of a time as any for one era to come to an end and a new era to begin.The nanodiamond layer you keep pounding on is real, the event you associate with it is make believe.
No, I just want folks to understand that there are several ways in which chronologies and paleo data are obtained and that those methods are so robust that even seasons can be distinguished.
More to the teaser AV. CFA = continuous flow analysis.
No, I just want folks to understand that there are several ways in which chronologies and paleo data are obtained and that those methods are so robust that even seasons can be distinguished.
More to the teaser AV. CFA = continuous flow analysis.
This is a reference to the ancient bristlecone pine.
Answers in genesis seems to deal with all of that. So what is the problem?
I do not associate any event with the comet itself. It is just a marker. Just like[FONT=arial, sans-serif] Apophis is a marker. This helps me to establish that the dates we are using are correct. But by all means you tell me, when do you think the Holocene extinction took place and when do you think what they call the Neolithic Revolution began?[/FONT] For me 12,900 years ago is as good of a time as any for one era to come to an end and a new era to begin.
What does this reveal about the paleo diet?
I'm just busting yer chops; interesting stuff!
There is nothing robust about it.
Well, for starters, I know you haven't read any of the reports you linked because that is nothing more than a list of abstracts of papers presented at a conference. Furthermore, none of the abstracts/papers you linked to support the conclusion you arbitrarily manufactured pretending you actually are familiar with paleoclimate methods and processes. True there are areas of non-conformity in all ice cores, that however does not render them a mess by any stretch of the imagination.Take the time to read an entire report, and you'l learn that the process is very difficult. I'm not suggesting anything is faked. I'm telling you that it's a long and difficult journey to figure out what layers one is looking at and how they got there. There is a lot of mingling, and layers removed, and layers moved, and it's a mess.
Careful, your ignorance on the subject is showing.The odds of a second person coming up with the the same results are slim.
Again, you are demonstrating you know little to nothing about the subject. NOAA is an excellent source for information, but your NOAA link does not support your idea that robust resolution is exclusive to D.O. Events by any stretch of the imagination. CFA yields extremely sensitive measurements of ion concentrations on the order of parts per billion (ppb). Conversely to what you are suggesting many annual layers can and are resolved into seasonal divisions, even without CFA. Seasons are determined by ion rations which are unique to specific seasons as well as organic matter such as pollen and conductivity and acidity.But don't take my word for it. No, the word "robust" is used to identify THOUSAND YEAR warming cycles. Not identifying seasons.
It would be a lot easier to establish a date for something like the Clovis Culture because you have an artifact to work with that can be carbon dated. Or in the Middle East clearly you have a date for Gobeki Tepe. But the Holocene extinction is going to be a lot more difficult. Even some believe this was a slow gradual extinction over two or three thousand years. The Bible and dispensationalism demands a lot more precision then science does. Although the ice cores do seem to be able to give us the needed precision.In that context I understand what you mean. Perhaps I have misunderstood what you have meant about it in previous posts.
Make sure you cook it real good because the bacteria may very well come back to life after being dormant all that time.You should try the frozen mammoth.
It would be a lot easier to establish a date for something like the Clovis Culture because you have an artifact to work with that can be carbon dated. Or in the Middle East clearly you have a date for Gobeki Tepe. But the Holocene extinction is going to be a lot more difficult. Even some believe this was a slow gradual extinction over two or three thousand years. The Bible and dispensationalism demands a lot more precision then science does. Although the ice cores do seem to be able to give us the needed precision.
So are you confident of the date assigned to them which is: "Archaeologists' most precise determinations at present suggest that this radiocarbon age is equal to roughly 13,500 to 13,000 calendar years ago." Because that is VERY close to my date of 12,982 years ago for the Nanodiamond layer found in the Greenland Ice Core Samples. Of course the comet is just a marker or a sign. It may not have any significance in and of itself. Although NASA is working on a theory that life came here to the planet earth on comets. I have not done anything with that. I think that is one of Hawkins theorys also.Just to clarify, it is the organic material associated with the clovis points that is carbon dated, not the points themselves which are of cryptocrystalline quartz (chalcedony).
So are you confident of the date assigned to them which is: "Archaeologists' most precise determinations at present suggest that this radiocarbon age is equal to roughly 13,500 to 13,000 calendar years ago." Because that is VERY close to my date of 12,982 years ago for the Nanodiamond layer found in the Greenland Ice Core Samples. Of course the comet is just a marker or a sign. It may not have any significance in and of itself. Although NASA is working on a theory that life came here to the planet earth on comets. I have not done anything with that. I think that is one of Hawkins theorys also.
Sky, I am specifically talking about "Continuous Flow Analysis", which is a high resolution method recently made possible with instrumentation made specifically for analyzing ice cores. It is extremely robust.
Well, for starters, I know you haven't read any of the reports you linked because that is nothing more than a list of abstracts of papers presented at a conference. Furthermore, none of the abstracts/papers you linked to support the conclusion you arbitrarily manufactured pretending you actually are familiar with paleoclimate methods and processes. True there are areas of non-conformity in all ice cores, that however does not render them a mess by any stretch of the imagination. Careful, your ignorance on the subject is showing.
Only what I read.Again, you are demonstrating you know little to nothing about the subject.
NOAA is an excellent source for information, but your NOAA link does not support your idea that robust resolution is exclusive to D.O. Events by any stretch of the imagination. CFA yields extremely sensitive measurements of ion concentrations on the order of parts per billion (ppb). Conversely to what you are suggesting many annual layers can and are resolved into seasonal divisions, even without CFA. Seasons are determined by ion rations which are unique to specific seasons as well as organic matter such as pollen and conductivity and acidity.