Thread for 1509

netzarim said:

Shalom, brother 1509. This thread is in response to your query:

Let's first start off with things we agree on: May I assume that we both agree that the Torah/Law and the Neviim/Prophets are indeed Scripture, and were both recognized by Messiah as Scripture (as recorded in the Gospels when He referred to the "Law and the Prophets")?

May I also assume that we both believe that Torah and the Prophets are the foundational Scripture for all writings which come after those two sections? That is to say, anything which is presumed to be "Scripture" must agree with what has come before (e.g. Isa 8:20, 30:9-14, cf Mt 12:5, Jn 5:39, Jn 5:46,47, Lk 10:26, etc.)

If so, then would you also agree that YHWH Himself(!) sends false prophets to test our love for Him by testing our faithfulness to Torah (Deu 13:1-5, cf Jer 8:8, etc.), just as the Tree tested Adam and Eve? That is, those false prophets will falsely perform signs and wonders to induce us to turn away from Torah (cf Mt 24:24, Jn 4:48, etc.)? Also, that Messiah prophesied this as well (Mt 13:24-30,36-42)?

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netzarim said:

Shalom, brother 1509. This thread is in response to your query:

Let's first start off with things we agree on: May I assume that we both agree that the Torah/Law and the Neviim/Prophets are indeed Scripture, and were both recognized by Messiah as Scripture (as recorded in the Gospels when He referred to the "Law and the Prophets")?

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Hello Netzarim, nice to meet you, and I love how you start off. It is always good to see those that love God's word in the unorthodox section.

netzarim said:

May I also assume that we both believe that Torah and the Prophets are the foundational Scripture for all writings which come after those two sections?

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I would be in agreement...wholeheartedly.

Yet I would expand that to include the Psalms as the Lord did when expounding Himself from the scriptures.

Luke 24:44

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44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

netzarim said:

That is to say, anything which is presumed to be "Scripture" must agree with what has come before (e.g. Isa 8:20, 30:9-14, cf Mt 12:5, Jn 5:39, Jn 5:46,47, Lk 10:26, etc.)

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Absolutely.

netzarim said:

If so, then would you also agree that YHWH Himself(!) sends false prophets to test our love for Him by testing our faithfulness to Torah (Deu 13:1-5, cf Jer 8:8, etc.),

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Not necessarily.

While this is a probablility in the life of the believer today, it is not an absolute certainty.

Consider:


2 Peter 2

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2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.



Peter distinguishes between false prophets and false teachers, and we have to consider that it is likely due to the fact that the EConomy of the Law has been abrogated by the New Covenant. Probably the most direct teaching we have concerning the First Covenant as contrasted with the New is Hebrews, and the writer begins this book by saying...


Hebrews 1:1-2

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1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;



And while we understand that the Law, Prophets, and the Psalms definitely contain foundational teachings of Christ, and we do not abandon the first principles of the Oracles of God, we also understand that we are not only to understand those principle teachings, but to go on unto the more complete understanding of Christ:


Hebrews 6

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1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,



We need not lay again the foundational principles but embrace the fuller understanding given us in the revelation of the mystery of Christ.


Hebrews 5:12-14

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12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.



When it comes to false teachers today, we should be able to discernb good and evil by reason os use. Study, that is, and being not just familiar but understanding that which God has spoken today through His Son.


1 John 4:1

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4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.



So testing is, at least in part, given over to us, because we are after all In Christ, whereas those that entered into the physical rest awaited Messiah.

netzarim said:

just as the Tree tested Adam and Eve?

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This makes Adam's sin the result of God's actions, because He put the Tree within reach.


James 1:13

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13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:



I would consider that in Deuteronomy we see the same principle of the responsibility of those addressed to keep themselves from evil, rather than God is intentionally placing something in their path as a test.

Those under the Law would not have been subjected to more than God had prepared them for any more than we are today:


1 Corinthians 10:13

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13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

netzarim said:

That is, those false prophets will falsely perform signs and wonders to induce us to turn away from Torah (cf Mt 24:24, Jn 4:48, etc.)? Also, that Messiah prophesied this as well (Mt 13:24-30,36-42)?

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While it is possible for the born again believer to fall into error concerning doctrine, it is just my belief that if the believer is obedient to the word of God, all of it, then they will enjoy the benefit of the instruction of the Holy Spirit. For some this will take years as they rely on a weekly feeding and have not been brought out of the slothful habits which leave them infantile in their understanding. For others, there is a motivation to know everything they can, as quickly as they can, and even when erroneous doctrine is embraced they will, by reason of use, learn truth, and put away the habit of trying to make thier beliefs fit scripture. We all do this, I believe. As we grow in knowledge we begin to take in a bigger picture wherein the Old Testament becomes understandable, and we can see the harmony of all scripture.

God bless.

netzarim said:

Originally Posted by P1LGR1M

Hello Netzarim, nice to meet you, and I love how you start off. It is always good to see those that love God's word in the unorthodox section.
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Nice to meet you as well, brother.

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Just so you know, I have tried to engage in discussion with Messianinc believers before and it seems that discussion with a "Pauline Gentile" (lol) was of little interest to them. So I look forward to speaking with you Netzarim.

netzarim said:

I would be in agreement...wholeheartedly. Yet I would expand that to include the Psalms as the Lord did when expounding Himself from the scriptures.

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Do you also recognize that Messiah Himself recognized the three separate sections of Scripture, namely Torah, Neviim/Prophets, and Ketuvim/Writings/Psalms? and that during Messiah's time, the three sections were widely recognized to possess different levels of authority?

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I recognize that the Lord expounded the Christ from all three sections. That is enough for me to recognize that I should follow His example in both recognizing all three as scripture and to seek to also expound Christ...which is what I try to make my primary focus.

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That is, Torah had the greatest authority as the direct words of YHWH. Neviim next, as the words of YHWH given through human intermediaries, and verified by authenticated prophecies.

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Yet we see groups like the Sadducees who focused and recognized only the Torah were rebuked by the Lord.

So it is a matter of both recognizing and a right interpretation. Wouldn't you agree?

netzarim said:

Ketuvim having the least authority; this section was generally edifying words but not necessarily inspired?

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According to who?

If we believe the Law and the Prophets are inspired scripture, why would we diminish the Psalms, which the Lord also quotes as writing we can cherry pick.

But I will confess this, my friend, I am not fond of the Song of Solomon or Ecclesiastes. I believe they are intended to be included, but they are not my favorites, lol.

netzarim said:

Not necessarily. While this is a probablility in the life of the believer today, it is not an absolute certainty. Consider: 2 Peter 2 ... Peter distinguishes between false prophets and false teachers, and we have to consider that it is likely due to the fact that the EConomy of the Law has been abrogated by the New Covenant.

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So you elevate Peter's Ketuvim above the authority of Torah (Deu 13:1-5)?

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Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.

I thought I made it clear I consider all of scripture inspired and therefore must be included in the conclusions we arrive at.

As far as the New Covenant, we can see the Lord teaching that He would establish the New Covenant through His death, and that we would commemorate His death in Communion.

Perhaps you might tell which parts of the New Testament you accept as inspired.

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Probably the most direct teaching we have concerning the First Covenant as contrasted with the New is Hebrews ... Hebrews 1:1-2 ... Hebrews 6 ... Hebrews 5:12-14

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Thank you for your references. But 1. on what authority do you maintain that the book of Hebrews is "Scripture"?

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It is a masterpiece of doctrinal address, and it's contrast of the First and New Covenants is unrivaled. Is there something in Hebrews you feel the writer is in error about concerning his doctrine?

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and 2. which level of "Scripture" do you place Hebrews - Torah, Neviim, or Ketuvim?

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If I were forced to place certain scripture above others, then Hebrews would fall into the category of Torah. The writer is apparently well versed in the Torah and has an excellent grasp on Messiah. It cannot be argued that the Law, Prophets, and Psalms spoke of Christ, and when we study this book what the writer does is exactly what I can imagine the Lord doing with the disciples on the road to Emmaus.

But I have to say again, I do not really place one portion over the other, as it is my belief that we cannot have a balanced view when we do that.

For us as believers, we need to have instruction concerning our dealing with each other as well as with the world. I think we can see a parallel in the Law, Prophets, and Psalms.

We can see in the Law itself a shortened form of "Torah, Neviim, and Ketuvim." And just give me a minute to explain what I mean. We see both explicit and implicit teaching in the Torah. We have the will of God seen in the events which transpire, and we see the will of God given in direct commandment. We can, though, see the will of God throughout scripture. We see the explicit and implicit will of God for man, as well as His plan to redeem man.

For this reason we see the Lord quoting the Law, Prophets, and Psalms.

Is Prophecy found in Psalms any less relevant than that found in Exodus> In the Levitical Economy?

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When it comes to false teachers today, we should be able to discern good and evil by reason os use. Study, that is, and being not just familiar but understanding that which God has spoken today through His Son...1 John 4:1

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Yes, and as YHWH commanded, and as Messiah gave example, all things are to be tested against the standard of the Torah and the Prophets.

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...and the Psalms, lol.

I have to disagree, my friend. It is my belief that the New Testament is given to us by God. We see instruction for the Church which was relevant to the issues that arose in the early Church. We see the mystery of Christ explained, and as the Lord said, it is through the Holy Spirit which the Apostles were brought to understand that which they did not understand before Pentecost.

And we cannot test false teachings about Christ solely from the Old Testament, as the mystery of Chrsit was not revealed in the clarity we have in the New. For example, we can understand what Christ taught more clearly because we now know that He died for the sins of all men. The primary understanding of Israel before Pentecost was that the promises of God were temporal. For this reason the disciples, even on the day of Messiah's ascension, asked if the kingdom would, at this time, be restored unto Israel. They did not at that point understand that Christ would die, be buried, rise again, return from whence He came, and send the Holy Spirit, the Comforter.

It was not until the Comforter came that they could preach the Cross with a fuller understanding that was concealed from them, and which they could not understand until they were...born again.

Think about that last statement before responding, please.

netzarim said:

Anything which goes against these are to be rejected.

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I agree wholeheartedly. Every word of God is pure, and this includes every jot and tittle of scripture.

If something does not align with what God has said previously, or falls out of the harmony of God's word...it is to be shunned.

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As the last few verses of Deu 18 also emphasizes (and as Messiah also confirmed), anything Messiah said are actually the Words of YHWH given directly from the Father.

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Amen.

I would take that a little further my friend, as I believe that every time the Lord interacted with man Personally, that was the Son of God. (i.e. in the Garden, on the Plains of Mamre, the fiery furnace, et cetera).

Quick question: Who owned the plains of Mamre?

(and yes, it's a trick question, lol, one of my favorites)


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netzarim said:

I would consider that in Deuteronomy we see the same principle of the responsibility of those addressed to keep themselves from evil, rather than God is intentionally placing something in their path as a test.

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I disagree. I take the commandment of Deu 13:1-5 at face value without attempting to explain it away.

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Then you think the Lord tempted Israel that they should fall?

I know you don't my friend, I can tell that already about you.

The Covenant of Law, called the First Covenant by the writer of Hebrews, is the only Covenant in which man is given "if/then" conditions. We ask if this covenant could annul the Covenant and Promise of God concerning not just Israel, but all men, and it is through Paul we are told...no, it does not.

We also consider that salvation was not the goal of the Law, and we know this by the Prophecy of Christ, and the fact that as promised, Christ came. So when we read Deuteronomy 13:1-5. lets just back up a bit (I am not fond of chapter divisions, the original is better):


Deuteronomy 12:28-32

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28 Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the Lord thy God.


"If you do this...you will live. You and your children after you."

The Lord made it clear that the Pharisees, experts in the Law...totally missed the intent of the Law. We see in the Ten Commandments that keeping the Law is a heart issue, a hint being given in "Thou shalt not covet," which is a sin of the heart first, which leads to sinful action.

So we see that they are called to obey that which God has commanded, and just as we are called to obey the Gospel today, they were not bereft of the Gospel then, and it became a matter of belief, fatih, and obedience to the will of God.

What has to be kept in mind, though, is that even if one kept the Law, it did not negate the need for salvation in Christ. When you read the Law, it should, if nothing else, bring to your attention that...you cannot keep it. The Pharisees thought they did, the Lord denied this. That they could read it and tell others the way they should go did not mean that the intent of the Law either brought them to repentance or negated the fact their sin could only be atoned for through Christ.



29 When the Lord thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;

30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.

31 Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.


Just as the Lord told the disciples, "I have come to die," and they did not understand, even so the children of Israel were told explicitly, "This is what is going to happen...see to it that you do not let it happen."

The Lord told them...explicitly...and they soon forgot the word of the Lord.

They went into Canaan and executed the wrath of God on idolaters, and then soon became forgetful to obey God, and despite the fact that God told them specificly what they were to beware, they fell into it anyway.




32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.



Did they add or take away from the word of the Lord? You betcha.


Deuteronomy 13

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1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Vigilance was necessary concerning the word of the Lord. False Prophets spoke that which was not from the Lord. How would they know? By knowing the word of the Lord which had already been spoken.

And when they failed to obey the Lord, that which He commanded, what would we suspect would be the likely cause? How could these people who had seen signs and wonders fall into error? Would it not be because they forsook the word of the Lord?

While false prophets may have been allowed to test the children of Israel, the false prophets would have quickly been put to death if the children of Israel were sound in their knowledge of God's will.

Just like today, when someone brings a gospel that is contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they do not take in those that have been faithful to seek after God and to know His will, they take in those that are ignorant of the word of God.

How else would we see people like Jim Jones, David Koresh...Hitler, be able to deceive others?


4 Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.


Consider this:

Psalm 37:4

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4 Delight thyself also in the Lord: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.



The same principle taught in Deteronomy 13:1-5 can be seen here: if one delights themself in the Lord...what will the desires of their heart be?

To delight themself in the Lord, of course.

5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.



The principle is, "Obey what I have told you and you will obey what I have told you."

If one succumbs to being led away unto idols, and to forsake the Lord, they fail the testing. Not because it is the Lord Who is to be blamed, but because they have forsaken the Lord already.

netzarim said:

if the believer is obedient to the word of God, all of it, then they will enjoy the benefit of the instruction of the Holy Spirit.

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What books do you consider to be "God's Word"?

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The 66 books you find in the Canon that does not include the Apocrypha.

Even Song of Solomon and Ecclesiastes.

netzarim said:

God bless.
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May YHWH and Messiah bless you and your path as well.

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Look forward to getting to know you Netzarim. This might be a little choppy as I have had a number of interuptions as I was responding.

God bless.

Hello Netzarim, I too will have to be brief, as my very life may depend upon the length of this response, lol (need to help my wife make dinner).

netzarim said:

P1lgr1m: If I may take the liberty of summarizing the main points of your posts:

netzarim said:

1. You believe that all three sections of Torah, Neviim, and Ketuvim, and the additions of the "NT" (and more specifically, the Protestant canon of 66 books) have equal authority and are all equally inspired;

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For the most part, yes. I do think we can divide the teachings as you do with the Old Testament, and as we do in the New (i.e. gospels, Pastoral Epistles, et cetera) but I look at it as we would be lacking if we lacked any part of it.

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2. New covenant promises are eternal, and have been placed into effect through Messiah's death;

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For the most part, yes, though concerning the New Covenant I look at the New as the culmination of the promises and will of God. For example, I believe the plan of salvation, and those that would be saved was predetermined and we first learn of salvation in Christ in Genesis 3:15. We see this progressively revealed in further detail in the Abrahamic Covenant, pictured in the Mosaic which still actually reveals Christ further, then closer in the Davidic, until the promise of the New Covenant lays out the final stage of redemption.

Christ did ratify this Covenant by His blood, and we are ministers of the New Covenant, and it makes little sense that we would minister a Covenant we do not partake of.

So in short, all of the Covenants work together to the predetermined will of God concerning man's redemption.

What is different as each one is established is the knowledge that those that benefit from the Covenant have.

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3. Old covenant promises were temporal and obsolete;

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Not at all. Nothing could be further from how I view the First Covenant.

It is, as the writer says, foundational. We progress, "go on" to the more complete knowledge of Christ, but we do not forsake or abandon Christ as found in the Law, Prophets, and Psalms.

We rather rejoice because we see Him there. We rejoice that God has given us this understanding.

The promises of God are without repentance, they will, every one, be fulfilled.

The First Covenant itself, however, is obviously obsolete. We would not, for instance, again offer sacrifice for sin when there is no need. But the First Covenant demands this, and one is guilty of failing to keep this Covenant if they presume to be under this Covenant and do not do so.

Much in the Old Testament is temporal, this is clear. The eternal is seldom referred to in the Old.

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4. That we cannot keep the law.

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I never said that.

We, as believers indwelt by God Himself benefit under New Covenant promises in that it is God in us that fulfills His own promise:


Ezekiel 36:27

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27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.



What that means is that we have far less excuse to keep God's Law than those prior to the Cross had. But we have to distinguish in scripture when the "The Law" is spoken of, because it sometimes refers to the word of God, and sometimes refers to the Covenant.

We can keep the Law, but we cannot keep the Covenant of Law and the New Covenant.

This is one of the primary points the writer of Hebrews tries to get across to his brethren...Hebrews. They were brought up under Law, and for them to forsake the Law (which is how it would have seemed to them) was a difficult thing to do.

Now, it might surprise you but I am one that believes that Hebrews are not told they must forsake their heritage. THis does not mean they remain in the First Covenant, but that they observe feasts and Holy Days according to the Law is not forbidden them, I believe.

I believe scripture (and this in the Prophets) teaches that animal sacrifice will be observed in the Millennial Kingdom. It will be memorial of Christ's death, even as Communion is memorial, and it will have no atoning value.

But I cannot deny what is written, and to me, that is what it appears will occur at that time.

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Would you say that is a reasonable summary?

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Sort of, but it is difficult to try to cover so much ground in such a short space. You will notice I am long-winded, but I believe there is just a number of issues that cannot be contained to short statements.

The Lord did it in 66 books, so give me at least 66 posts, okay?

lol

Being a little facetious, but you know what I mean, I think.


God bless,

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The number of man is 6. Therefore the antichrist is a man carrying the Protestant bible.

Funny, but not far from the truth!

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Yet we see groups like the Sadducees who focused and recognized only the Torah were rebuked by the Lord.

If we believe the Law and the Prophets are inspired scripture,
why would we diminish the Psalms, which the Lord also quotes, as writing we can cherry pick.

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Jesus didn't just quote from the Psalms, he quoted from the Psalms more than any other book in the Bible:

Mt 5:5, 21:16, 42, 22:43-45, 23:39, 27:46; Jn 10:34, 13:18, 15:25; Lk 24:44-45.

In the faith,
Clare

=netzarim;61861416]Shalom, brother 1509. This thread is in response to your query:

Let's first start off with things we agree on: May I assume that we both agree that the Torah/Law and the Neviim/Prophets are indeed Scripture, and were both recognized by Messiah as Scripture (as recorded in the Gospels when He referred to the "Law and the Prophets")?

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The only books that are inspired by the Holy Spirit are the 66 books from Genesis to Revelation.

May I also assume that we both believe that Torah and the Prophets are the foundational Scripture for all writings which come after those two sections? That is to say, anything which is presumed to be "Scripture" must agree with what has come before (e.g. Isa 8:20, 30:9-14, cf Mt 12:5, Jn 5:39, Jn 5:46,47, Lk 10:26, etc.)

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If so, then would you also agree that YHWH Himself(!) sends false prophets to test our love for Him by testing our faithfulness to Torah (Deu 13:1-5, cf Jer 8:8, etc.), just as the Tree tested Adam and Eve? That is, those false prophets will falsely perform signs and wonders to induce us to turn away from Torah (cf Mt 24:24, Jn 4:48, etc.)? Also, that Messiah prophesied this as well (Mt 13:24-30,36-42)?

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YHWH sent true prophets to the Israelites to test and correct them, and they killed them all.

Rom 11:25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Why is it that we have only 66 books in the Bible? It is because those 66 books are the ones that met the criteria of Apostolic Authority (it written by an apostle, or had apostolic influence), Antiquity (the writing fit within the time-frame of apostle’s lives), Orthodoxy (it taught what was true about God, Jesus, and creation), Catholicity (the writing was universally accepted by the Church body, not the RCC), Traditional Use (the book or letter did not contradict previously accepted beliefs and practices), and Inspiration (the evidence led the Church to believe it was “God breathed”). Conversely, the multitude of competing writings, letters, and books of the apocryphal or pseudepigraphical nature were rejected on the same grounds. It is the same standard that all genuine Christians should consider and use the next time they are confronted by some prophet or mystic claiming special insight into the things of God, and presents his evidence in the form of an alleged direct revelation from Him.

=netzarim;61899175]Thank you. If I may ask the following questions:

1. Who determined that these were valid criteria to determine what is and isn't "Scripture"?

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Historical Apostolic Authority.

2. Where, in these criteria, do the tests given by YHWH Himself - fidelity to Torah and the Prophets - as found in Deu 13:1-5, Deu 18:21-22, Isa 8:20, fit?

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Rom 7:6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
Rom 7:7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet."
Rom 7:8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.
Rom 7:9 I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died.
Rom 7:10 The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.

3. Have you applied YHWH's tests and verified the "NT" canon yourself, as commanded by our Elohim?

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Yes, the old is a foreshadow of things to come, that is a new and better covenant with better promises.

Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

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netzarim said:

Does Paul pass the tests given by YHWH?

I contend that he does not. He taught that the Law was done away with, that obedience to YHWH and Messiah is not necessary. He fails the tests given in Deu 13:1-5, Deu 18:21-22, and Isa 8:20.

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That is nothing more than your untenable opinion.