Starlight and the cosmic ladder fallacy

ReverendDG said:

i guess you don't understand irony dad.

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I use irony.

what no evidence? SHOCKING! shall i quote someone about this drivel?
oh yes:

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The evidence that the cosmic ladder is based on certain things is readily available. The only issue is whether you can provide the same state time and space and laws.

Tiberius said:

You think people care about yours? I don't see anyone here agreeing with you.

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I don't see them proving your same state past, nor making a bible case.

Can you show that the laws are any different? No.

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No need. All that needs to be shown is science doesn't know. That is a win. Once science is exposed for the fraud it is, and men realize no one knows the laws of the past...God's word looms very very very large.

And you've NEVER been able to explain why what we see matches perfectly with what same state laws predict if the laws are different.

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Easy. What is it you think you see?

All you do is keep claiming you are right but you never put your money where your mouth is.

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God gave His only son. He already put more than His money where His word is.

Tiberius said:

And this shows only that there are things we still need to learn. You can not conclude that the laws of nature MUST be different because of this.

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I have no need to conclude. God told us. While you are learning...remember God.

Cromulent said:

I've dropped out of this thread recently. Does Dad know what parallax is yet?

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Yes, he does. It is a belief that earth state space and time and laws extend far beyond where they are known to, and the subsequent connecting lines from here to there that could never equal true distance without a same space.

Loudmouth said:

And those limits are . . . ?

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What you know...rather than what you model on a belief system.

Loudmouth said:

Men wrote the Bible, not God.

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Not according to the men that wrote it, or the things they wrote, which far exceed the ability of any man to write.

But you are not able to participate in a discussion on that. You seem to rationally ignore your limits of knowledge. For example, it is well known that Jesus and the apostles talked a lot of the return of Christ, with His saints and angels to take over earth forever. Now, there was a man alive when Adam was alive if I recall, that told us this same thing. This was before cave men! He wrote that the Lord would come with innumerable multitudes of His saints one day. You have no ability to go back and check what Enoch was inspired by, face it.

Loudmouth said:

Another irony meter explodes.



And the burden of proof is shifted once again. You are the one claiming that the authors were inspired by a supernatural deity. Where is the evidence?

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You are not able to prove what happened long before you were old enough to insanely wave stuff away.

Loudmouth said:

So where is the evidence for this fishbowl you keep going on about? Or is it just part of a belief system?

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The fishbowl is just a term for the present state we live in. How far that extends into space, or time you do not know.

Loudmouth said:

Why isn't it knowable?

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Don't blame me. Do you know how far back in time our laws existed?Do you know how far out in space our spacetime and laws exist?