Daniel 11:40-45 & 12:1-3 - King Of The South

In Daniel 11, especially verses 40-45, and continuing [as there is no break] in Daniel 12:1-3, there have been many guesses as to who the King of the South is there. Some have said it is the literal country of 'Egypt' [and thus some ruling power there], and others yet say it is literally 'China' [and some ruling power there], and some others still posit that the King of the South is literally the 'Saracens/Arabs/Muslims/Islamists under Mahomet [Mohammed], for some future Islamic leader [12th Mahdi]'. All of these are false. Let us see...

We know from scripture that Daniel 11 and Daniel 8 parallel to a given point, for since in Daniel 8 a vision is given, and a partial audible explanation, and then Daniel 11 begins again where Daniel 8 also began [in the realm of the [2nd] kingdom of Medo-Persia, continuing onward], and so it re-explains the vision of Daniel 8 yet in further detail, but where as Daniel 8 only reaches [basically, though Daniel 8:25 leaps to the very conclusion, "he shall be broken without hand"] to a certain year AD [AD 1844, the end of the 2,300 evening mornings thus day/years], Daniel 11 audible explanation continues past the point where Daniel 8 stops short, and goes until the righteous are made immortal at the 2nd advent of Jesus Christ

We know from scripture that Daniel 11 must perfectly fit all of the already known forces from Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and in all of the previous Daniel 1-10 [and surrounding chapter 12 and even other prophets ].

We know from scripture that Daniel 11 must also find its parallels in Revelation as well, since the last certain portions of Daniel were sealed, and only to be revealed in the Revelation, and could only be rightly understood after a specific given timeframe, as so given in the Book of Daniel itself, being also restated in Revelation [given 7 times in scripture, [1,260 days, 42 months, and Times, Time and Dividing of Time]].

In Daniel 11:40[a], we read:

"And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him..."

Thus:

"And at the time of the end..." is stating at the end of the 1,260 years, thus the year AD 1798 comes into view, as it is the ending, while AD 538 is the beginning. We could also calculate from the year AD 508, and the 1,290 years [Daniel 12:11], ending in the same year, AD 1798.

The perfect parallel in Revelation makes this abundantly clear, especially as the "...scriptures cannot be broken." [John 10:35;p], and so see and compare Daniel 7:25, 12:7; Revelation 11:2,3, 12:6,14, 13:5 [and consider also Luke 21:24;p "...trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." and Revelation 11:2;p "...given unto the Gentiles..."].

In the light of those texts, and the very context and placement within Revelation itself, we are speaking about the timeframe of the latter part of the 6th Trumpet Angel and the 2nd Woe. Notice Revelation 11:1-14.

Thus "...time of the end..." of Daniel 11:40[a] is fixed, first by The Scripture and second by the SoP:

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The message of salvation has been preached in all ages; but this message is a part of the gospel which could be proclaimed only in the last days, for only then would it be true that the hour of judgment [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]had come[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. The prophecies present a succession of events leading down to the opening of the judgment. This is especially true of the book of Daniel. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]But that part of his prophecy which related to the last days, Daniel was bidden to close up and seal [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“to the time of the end.”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] Not till we reach this time could a message concerning the judgment be proclaimed, based on the fulfillment of these prophecies. But at the time of the end, says the prophet, “many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” [/FONT]Daniel 12:4[FONT=Times New Roman, serif].[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The apostle Paul warned the church not to look for the coming of Christ in his day. “That day shall not come,” he says, “except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed.” [/FONT]2 Thessalonians 2:3[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. Not till after the great apostasy, and the long period of the reign of the “man of sin,” can we look for the advent of our Lord. The “man of sin,” which is also styled “the mystery of iniquity,” “the son of perdition,” and “that wicked,” represents the papacy, which, as foretold in prophecy, was to maintain its supremacy for 1260 years. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This period ended in 1798[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. The coming of Christ could not take place before that time. Paul covers with his caution the whole of the Christian dispensation [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]down to the year 1798[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. It is this side of that time that the message of Christ’s second coming is to be proclaimed.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]No such message has ever been given in past ages. Paul, as we have seen, did not preach it; he pointed his brethren into the then far-distant future for the coming of the Lord. The Reformers did not proclaim it. Martin Luther placed the judgment about three hundred years in the future from his day. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]But since 1798 the book of Daniel has been unsealed[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], knowledge of the prophecies has increased, and many have proclaimed the solemn message of the judgment near.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] - The Great Controversy; page 356[/FONT]

Then "...shall the King of the South..." is stating as it has before, the 'King of Egypt', since "Egypt" is always south of "Jerusalem" [just as "Babylon" was always to the north of Jerusalem]. But what is the King of Egypt [thus King of the South in this part of the text, Daniel 11:40[a]?]. We must go to scripture, for it shall define it for us...

Egypt is the Kingdom of the South, as it lay literally South of Jerusalem. Though in Daniel 11:40, which is far after the events of the Cross and the Ascension of Jesus, we are no longer looking for a 'literally south' of 'literal Jerusalem', but rather looking for a 'spiritually south' [and also 'spiritually north, a spiritual Babylon'] of 'spiritual Israel' enemies.

Satan always has two ditches on either side of the Truth. South is Egypt, and open Rebellion, open Denial and open Refusal to acknowledge God or Obey His Voice. While the North, is Mystery Babylon, which is cloaked and hidden denial, it is outwardly claiming to honor God in religion, but in actions and obedience and heart service it denies Him, thus it is hypocrisy. We ought to beware for more that just these powers in the world, but we must also apply them to our personal lives. Do we in instances openly deny God and say, "No" to God as Pharoah? Or do we sometimes cloak our denial behind a mask and facade of outward lip service, outward show and inward denial of heart as does Mystery Babylon? Please think on these things, and let us continue...

Spiritually it [South] represents open hostility and rebellion and rejection of worship towards God and open denial of his Commandments, especially the 4th Commandment [the 7th Day Sabbath], thus openly, rebelliously and high handedly denying God:

Exo 5:2 And Pharaoh said, Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go.

see also: “Lest I be full, and deny [thee], and say, Who [is] the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God [in vain].” - Proverbs 30:9

Exo 5:3 And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the LORD our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.

Exo 5:4 And the king of Egypt said unto them, Wherefore do ye, Moses and Aaron, let [cause to cease] the people from their works? get you unto your burdens.

Exo 5:5 And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest [shabath] from their burdens.

Exo 5:6 And Pharaoh commanded the same day the taskmasters of the people, and their officers, saying,

Exo 5:7 Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves.

Exo 5:8 And the tale of the bricks, which they did make heretofore, ye shall lay upon them; ye shall not diminish ought thereof: for they be idle; therefore they cry, saying, Let us go and sacrifice to our God.

Exo 5:9 Let there more work be laid upon the men, that they may labour therein; and let them not regard vain words.

Exo 5:10 And the taskmasters of the people went out, and their officers, and they spake to the people, saying, Thus saith Pharaoh, I will not give you straw.

Exo 5:11 Go ye, get you straw where ye can find it: yet not ought of your work shall be diminished.

Exo 5:12 So the people were scattered abroad throughout all the land of Egypt to gather stubble instead of straw.

Exo 5:13 And the taskmasters hasted them, saying, Fulfil your works, your daily tasks, as when there was straw.

Exo 5:14 And the officers of the children of Israel, which Pharaoh's taskmasters had set over them, were beaten, and demanded, Wherefore have ye not fulfilled your task in making brick both yesterday and to day, as heretofore?

Therefore let us make the connection in Revelation:

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

see also, "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" - 1 Corinthians 3:16 [and also 1 Corinthians 3:9,17, 6:19; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:21; 2 Thessalonians 2:4; 1 Peter 2:5; Revelation 3:12, 11:19 [and also John 2:21, and also Exodus 25:40, 26:30, 27:8; Hebrews 8:5, 9:23, etc]]]

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

see [Zechariah 4]

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

Thus historically in the prophecy this was Atheistic France [Beast from the bottomless pit] in the years of its Revolution and Reign of Terror [when it cast aside all restraint and godliness], and more specifically in the years AD 1793-1797 [3 1/2 years], and the 1,260 ending in the year 1798 when France [Alexandre Berthier, under Napoleon], gave the deadly wound to the King of the North [Papacy].

Thus again, we have it confirmed first from The Scriptures, but then second by the SoP:

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...“The great city” in whose streets the witnesses are slain, and where their dead bodies lie, is “spiritually” Egypt. Of all nations presented in Bible history, Egypt most boldly denied the existence of the living God and resisted His commands. No monarch ever ventured upon more open and highhanded rebellion against the authority of Heaven than did the king of Egypt. When the message was brought him by Moses, in the name of the Lord, Pharaoh proudly answered: “Who is Jehovah, that I should hearken unto His voice to let Israel go? I know not Jehovah, and moreover I will not let Israel go.” Exodus 5:2, A.R.V. This is atheism, and the nation represented by Egypt would give voice to a similar denial of the claims of the living God and would manifest a like spirit of unbelief and defiance. “The great city” is also compared, “spiritually,” to Sodom. The corruption of Sodom in breaking the law of God was especially manifested in licentiousness. And this sin was also to be a pre-eminent characteristic of the nation that should fulfill the specifications of this scripture. ...” - The Great Controversy, page 269

[/FONT]“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... The papal church will never relinquish her claim to infallibility. All [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]that she has done in her persecution of those who reject her dogmas she holds to be right; and would she not repeat the same acts, should the opportunity be presented? Let the restraints now imposed by secular governments be removed and Rome be reinstated in her former power, and there would speedily be a revival of her tyranny and persecution. ...” - The Great Controversy, Chapter 35, Liberty Of Conscience Threatened; page 564[/FONT]

"...push..." is meaning to "gore, make war with, etc" ["1) to push, thrust, gore;a) (Qal) to gore;b) (Piel) to push or thrust at;c) (Hithpael) to engage in thrusting, wage war" [Strong's Concordance]] [see Exodus 21:28,31,32; Deuteronomy 33:17; 1 Kings 22:11, etc] and is the exact same word used in Daniel 8:4, "I saw the ram pushing...", and thus we see in AD 1798, Atheistic France [the Elder Son of the Papacy] gave the "deadly wound" [Revelation 13:3,12] to the Papacy, and was the very same country which so many years ago, under Clovis, King of the Franks, had at the first 'stood' on its [the Norths] behalf "...arms shall stand on his part..." [Daniel 11:31;p], being the sword of the state in the hands of Rome. It [France] is also the very same country which helped the 2nd Beast [Protestant USA] of Revelation 13 rise to power and throw off the yokes of King and Pope, from 1776-1798.

"...at him. ..." is meaning the "King of the North", which at this time is spiritually speaking of Babylon, or Papal Rome, that Church-State amalgamation, the very power mentioned so many times in the Scripure to arise from littleness ['little horn' of Daniel 7:25, etc].

"...The one withheld from the people the truths of the Bible; the other taught them to reject both the Bible and its Author. ..." - SoP Volume 4, page 192 [but read the surrounding also 190-193, etc]

Thus is the end of Daniel 11:40[a], but what then of Daniel 11:40(b)? Who is the King of the South there? Look closely and you will see the healing of the Deadly wound in Daniel 11:40(b), and he [healed Papal Rome, for it gets military power back in its behalf] comes against this Atheism and all of its derivatives [communism, humanism, secularism, etc] even "...like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over."

Now, who wants to know who the King of the South is from Daniel 11:41-12:3 is? There are many answers, "CHINA!", "TURKEY!", "MUSLIMS!", "ISLAM!" and so many other answers shouted..., but there can only be one correct answer scripturally.

Look closely and the answer is obvious. Read the passages slowly... and notice something... THERE IS NO LONGER ANY KING OF THE SOUTH after vs 40. HE IS GONE PERMANENTLY [and only the "land of Egypt" remains, which represents the 'world', just as Israel was saved out of Egypt then and taken to the Promised land, we are called out of the world, to be taken to the Heavenly Canaan]. For in the end, only Mystery Babylon [and all who follow it] remains and God's remnant, and the whole world is worshipping, for the miracles being done, and the strange thigns to come, then see the typology in the OT, as Babylon conquered Egypt and removed the Pharoah.

BTW the answers to so many questions were already given in The Great Controversy, read from Chapter 15 onward.

Who wants to see the rest of Daniel 11:41-12:3?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:41 “He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many [countries] shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, [even] Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He...”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] = King of the North, Daniel 11:40(b)[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...enter...”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] = Hebrew [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]bow'[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] to go in, enter, come, go, come in;...[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif][Strong's Concordance;p][/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...glorious land...”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]: Land of Palestine/Canaan/Judaea/Israel, for the word in Hebrew is [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]tsĕbiy[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“1) beauty, glory, honour; a) beauty, decoration; b) honour; 2) roebuck, gazelle; a) perhaps an extinct animal, exact meaning unknown”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif][Strong's Concordance], thus shall the “King of the North” even come there, but remember we are looking for "spiritual Israel' which are members of that 'Hevenly" city, New Jerusalem [connect with Hebrews, Romans 9, Revelation][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 4:2[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “In that day shall the branch of the LORD be [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]beautiful[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] and glorious, and the fruit of the earth [shall be] excellent and comely for them that are escaped of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Israel[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 3:19[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “But I said , How shall I put thee among the children, and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]give thee a pleasant land[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]goodly[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] heritage[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] of the hosts of nations? and I said , Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 7:2[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the land of Israel[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 7:20[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “As for the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]beauty[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] of his ornament, he set it in majesty: but they made the images of their abominations [and] of their detestable things therein: therefore have I set it far from them.” [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif][this is saying that Israel was “like a precious Jewel, set in the crown of Jesus”][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 20:6[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “In the day [that] I lifted up mine hand unto them, to bring them forth of the land of Egypt [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]into a land that I had espied for them, flowing with milk and honey[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], which [is] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]glory[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] of all lands[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 20:15[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]into the land which I had given [them], flowing with milk and honey[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], which [is] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]glory[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] of all lands[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif];”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 20:38[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]into the land of Israel[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 20:40[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]in mine holy mountain[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 20:42[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I shall bring you [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]into the land of Israel[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], into the country [for] the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 8:9[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great , toward the south, and toward the east, and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]toward the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]pleasant[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] [land][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:16[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]in the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]glorious[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] land[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], which by his hand shall be consumed.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:45[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]in the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]glorious[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] holy mountain[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...many...”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] = Hebrew [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]rab[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“adj [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] much, many, great; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] much; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]b)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] many; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]c)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] abounding in; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]d)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] more numerous than; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]e)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] abundant, enough; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]f)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] great; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]g)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] strong; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]h)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] greater than; adv [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]i)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] much, exceedingly; n m [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] captain, chief”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif][Strong's Concordance][/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...[countries]...”[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] = a supplied word that is not present in the Hebrew, leave it out. It is rather saying many peoples are overthrown by these events.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:41 “He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many [countries] shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, [even] Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:41: Edom, Moab and the Chief Children of Ammon [who are they?], remmeber we are not looking for literal, but rather 'character', that is to say the 'spiritual' aspects of these, but in order to discren this, we myst go back to the OT and find the 'character' there.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Who is Edom?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Passages which are relevant are:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Samuel 14:47 “So Saul took the kingdom over Israel, and fought against all his enemies on every side, against Moab, and against the children of Ammon, and against Edom, and against the kings of Zobah, and against the Philistines: and whithersoever he turned himself, he vexed [them].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Chronicles 18:11 “Them also king David dedicated unto the LORD, with the silver and the gold that he brought from all [these] nations; from Edom, and from Moab, and from the children of Ammon, and from the Philistines, and from Amalek.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 11:14 “But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 9:26 “Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all [that are] in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all [these] nations [are] uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel [are] uncircumcised in the heart.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 25:21 “Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon,”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edom is Esau [Jacobs [Israel's] Brother, the elder son of Isaac [the son of Abraham]] What was his inheritance?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 25:30 “And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red [pottage]; for I [am] faint: therefore was his name called Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 32:3 “And Jacob sent messengers before him to Esau his brother unto the land of Seir, the country of Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 32:30 “And Jacob sent messengers before him to Esau his brother unto the land of Seir, the country of Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 33:16 “So Esau returned that day on his way unto Seir.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 36:1 “Now these [are] the generations of Esau, who [is] Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 36:8 “Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau [is] Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 36:9 “And these [are] the generations of Esau the father of the Edomites in mount Seir:”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 36:19 “These [are] the sons of Esau, who [is] Edom, and these [are] their dukes.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 36:21[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And Dishon, and Ezer, and Dishan: these [are] the dukes of the Horites, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the children of Seir in the land of Edom[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 36:43 “Duke Magdiel, duke Iram: these [be] the dukes of Edom, according to their habitations in the land of their possession: he [is] Esau the father of the Edomites.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:4 “And command thou the people, saying , Ye [are] to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:8 “And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Eziongaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Obadiah 1:8 “Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise [men] out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mont Seir is Esau/Edom Heritage [which was originally settled by the Horites [Horims, Hori, cave dwellers] in Genesis 14:6, which were expelled by the Edomites; see Genesis 36:20; Deuteronomy 2:12,22], see also passages dealing with Mt. Seir: Genesis 14:6, 32:3, 33:14,16, 36:8,9,20,21,30; Numbers 24:18; Deuteronomy 1:2,44, 2:1,4,5,8,12,22,29, 33:2; Joshua 11:17, 12:7, 15:10, 24:4; Judges 5:4; 1 Chronicles 1:38, 4:42; 2 Chronicles 20:10,22,23, 25:11,14; Isaiah 21:11; Ezekiel 25:8, 35:2,3,7,15.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 32:3 “And Jacob sent messengers before him to Esau his brother unto the land of Seir, the country of Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 32:30 “And Jacob sent messengers before him to Esau his brother unto the land of Seir, the country of Edom.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Numbers 24:18 “And Edom shall be a possession, Seir also shall be a possession for his enemies ; and Israel shall do valiantly.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:4 “And command thou the people, saying , Ye [are] to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:5 “Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau [for] a possession.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:8 “And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Eziongaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:12[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “The Horims also dwelt [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]in Seir[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] beforetime; but [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the children of Esau succeeded them[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], when they had destroyed them from before them, and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]dwelt in their stead[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which the LORD gave unto them.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:22[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “As he did t[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]o the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day:”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 2:29 “(As the children of Esau which dwell in Seir, and the Moabites which dwell in Ar, did unto me : until I shall pass over Jordan into the land which the LORD our God giveth us.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 25:14[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “Now it came to pass, after that Amaziah was come from the slaughter [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of the Edomites[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], that he brought the gods [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of the children of Seir[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], and set them up [to be] his gods, and bowed down himself before them, and burned incense unto them.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joshua 24:4[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I gave unto Esau mount Seir, to possess it[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Judges 5:4[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “LORD, when thou wentest [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]out of Seir[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], when thou marchedst [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]out of the field of Edom[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], the earth trembled , and the heavens dropped , the clouds also dropped water.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What are the Characteristics, or spiritual nature of Edom/Esau? Let us just make a quick list, scriptures may be found and applied for each, look...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What are the Characteristics, or spiritual nature of Edom/Esau? Let us just make a quick list, scriptures may be found and applied for each, look...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Esau is Jacob's [Israel] elder brother, by blood of their Father Issac, and Grandfather Abraham[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Esau sold his birthright for red pottage, sold inheritance for worldly food and[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] was ruled by his passions and sought revenge[/FONT], and [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]married multiple wives, and at least 2 outside of the family [cananite women, and his third was of Ishamel][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mt. Seir is the heritage of Esau/Edom.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Their Land was their inheritance. [Judges 11:15][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Who were Moab and Ammon? What are their characters, origins, etc?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Moab and Ammon were Lot's Sons by His Daughters [Incestuous, through corrupt wine, and the daughters were worldly][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Moab was the son of Lot by his [firstborn] daughter [Genesis 19][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Benammi was the other son by his [other] daughter, and he was the father of the children of Ammon[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edom, Moab and Ammon were enemies of Israel though they beleived in God, and were related to Israel by blood [thus spiritually related to spiritual Israel], and yet were also [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Idolaters [Judges 10:6] and rebellious towards God and His people[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edom, Moab and Ammon were NE, E and SE of Jerusalem[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edom, Moab and Ammon hindered Israel from entering the Promised Land, denying them access through their territory. Thus they represent those which hinder God's people in their effort to move toward the Promised land...

[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edom, Moab and Ammon did not escape the Judgments of God, and eventually turned on themselves and destroyed on another, see Jehoshaphat.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"After passing south of Edom, the Israelites turned northward toward the Promised Land. Their route now lay over a vast, elevated plain, swept by cool, fresh breezes, a welcome change from the parched valley. They pressed forward, buoyant and hopeful. The command had been given, “Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot.” The same was repeated concerning the Ammonites, also descendants of Lot."- From Eternity Past, p. 304.1 (1) and also Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 433.1 (1) [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"Lot’s only posterity, the Moabites and Ammonites, were vile, idolatrous tribes, rebels against God and bitter enemies of His people"- Mind, Character, and Personality Volume 1, p. 147.1 (1) and also Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 167.3 (1) [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"The Moabites were a degraded, idolatrous people; yet according to the light which they had received their guilt was not so great in the sight of heaven as was that of Balaam." - Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 441.1 (1) and also ST November 25, 1880, par. 6[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Moabites sought to seek Israels destruction by Sorcery, through Balaam and Balak [King of Moab].[/FONT]

“The people of Moab had not been molested by Israel, yet they had watched with troubled forebodings all that had taken place in the surrounding countries. The Amorites, before whom they had been forced to retreat, had been conquered by the Hebrews, and the territory which the Amorites had wrested from Moab was now in the possession of Israel. The hosts of Bashan had yielded before the mysterious power enshrouded in the cloudy pillar, and the giant strongholds were occupied by the Hebrews. The Moabites dared not risk an attack upon them; an appeal to arms was hopeless in face of the supernatural agencies that wrought in their behalf. But they determined, as Pharaoh had done, to enlist the power of sorcery to counteract the work of God. They would bring a curse upon Israel. ...” - Patriarchs and Prophets; page 438.2

Now Covering the Same Ground—[Jeremiah 36:1-7 quoted.] This chapter is a record of historical events that will be repeated. Let all who desire to receive warning, read carefully.
[Jeremiah 36:22, 23, 27, 28, 32 quoted] (Manuscript 65, 1912).

"Many are ignorant of how to work for God, not because they need to be ignorant, but because they are unwilling to submit to His training. Moab is spoken of as a failure because, the prophet declares, “Moab hath been at ease from his youth, ... and hath not been emptied from vessel to vessel, neither hath he gone into captivity: therefore his taste remained in him, and his scent is not changed.” - S.D.A. Bible Commentary Vol. 4, p. 1160.6 (1) and also In Heavenly Places, p. 330.5 (1) and also RH May 2, 1907, par. 10

"Thus it is with those whose hereditary and cultivated tendencies to wrong are not purged from them. Their hearts are not cleansed from defilement. They were given an opportunity to do a work for God, but this work they did not choose to do, because they wished to carry out their own plans." - In Heavenly Places, p. 330.5 (1) and also S.D.A. Bible Commentary Vol. 4, p. 1160.7 (1) and also RH May 2, 1907, par. 11 and also Manuscript Releases Volume Eight [Nos. 526-663], p. 424.1 (1)

“And now, behold, the children of Ammon and Moab and Mount Seir, whom Thou wouldest not let Israel invade, when they came out of the land of Egypt, but they turned from them, and destroyed them not; behold, I say, how they reward us, to come to cast us out of Thy possession, which Thou hast given us to inherit. O our God, wilt Thou not judge them? for we have no might against this great company that cometh against us; neither know we what to do: but our eyes are upon Thee.” Verses 3-12. Prophets and Kings, p. 199.3 (1)

10-12. Spirit Does Not Work Beyond Human Power of Resistance—The influence of the Spirit upon the human mind will regulate it after the divine order. But the Spirit does not work in a manner and power beyond the human agent’s power of resistance. A man may refuse to hear the counsels and admonitions of God. He may choose to take the regulating of his conduct into his own hands; but when he does this, he is not made a vessel unto honor. Like Moab, he refuses to be changed, emptied from vessel to vessel, and therefore his scent remaineth in him. He refuses to correct his defective traits of character, although the Lord has plainly pointed out his work, his privileges, his opportunities, and the advancement to be made. It is too much trouble to break up his old ways, and transform his ideas and methods. “His scent is not changed.” He clings to his defects, and is thus unfitted for the sacred work of the ministry. He was not willing to make a close examination of himself, or to closely inquire for light to shine upon him in a clear, distinct manner. His prayers have not ascended to God in humility, while with humble endeavor he sought to live his prayers by understanding and performing his duty.

After the Lord has put one on test and trial, that he may be assured of his calling to the ministry, if he is content to follow his own way and his own will, if he will not heed the manifestations of the Spirit of God, if he refuses to profit by growth in grace and depth of understanding, be assured that the Lord does not need him; for he cannot communicate that which he has never received.

Every soul is to minister. He is to use every physical, moral, and mental power, through sanctification of the Spirit, that he may be a laborer together with God. All are bound to devote themselves actively and unreservedly to God’s service. They are to cooperate with Jesus Christ in the great work of helping others. Christ died for every man. He has ransomed every man by giving His life on the cross. This He did that man might no longer live an aimless, selfish life, but that he might live unto Jesus Christ, who died for his salvation. All are not called upon to enter the ministry, but nevertheless, they are to minister. It is an insult to the Holy Spirit of God for any man to choose a life of self-serving.

Ministry means not only the study of books and preaching. It means service (Letter 10, 1897).

Knowledge of Truth Not Practiced—This description of Moab represents the churches that have become like Moab. They have not stood at their post of duty as faithful sentinels. They have not cooperated with the heavenly intelligences by exercising their God-given ability to do the will of God, pressing back the powers of darkness, and using every power God has given them to advance truth and righteousness in our world. They have a knowledge of the truth, but they have not practiced what they know (Manuscript 7, 1891)

Moses was buried in the land [a valley] of Moab.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edom, Moab and Ammon never were removed/destroyed bvy Israel:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 20:10 “And now, behold, the children of Ammon and Moab and mount Seir, whom thou wouldest not let Israel invade, when they came out of the land of Egypt, but they turned from them, and destroyed them not;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]They did not escape God's judgments, they destroyed one another, realm of Jehoshaphat, miniature Armageddon:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 20:1 “It came to pass after this also, [that] the children of Moab, and the children of Ammon, and with them [other] beside the Ammonites, came against Jehoshaphat to battle.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 20:15 “And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle [is] not yours, but God's.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 20:17 “Ye shall not [need] to fight in this [battle]: set yourselves, stand ye [still], and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD [will be] with you.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 20:22[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “And when they began to sing and to praise, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the LORD set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Chronicles 20:23[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the children of Ammon and Moab stood up against the inhabitants of mount Seir[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], utterly to slay and destroy [them]: and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]when they had made an end of the inhabitants of Seir, every one helped to destroy another[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:1 “The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:2 “Son of man, set thy face against the Ammonites, and prophesy against them;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:3 “And say unto the Ammonites, Hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou saidst, Aha, against my sanctuary, when it was profaned; and against the land of Israel, when it was desolate; and against the house of Judah, when they went into captivity;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:4 “Behold, therefore I will deliver thee to the men of the east for a possession, and they shall set their palaces in thee, and make their dwellings in thee: they shall eat thy fruit, and they shall drink thy milk.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:5 “And I will make Rabbah a stable for camels, and the Ammonites a couchingplace for flocks: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:6 “For thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast clapped thine hands, and stamped with the feet, and rejoiced in heart with all thy despite against the land of Israel;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:7 “Behold, therefore I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and will deliver thee for a spoil to the heathen; and I will cut thee off from the people, and I will cause thee to perish out of the countries: I will destroy thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:8 “Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Moab and Seir do say, Behold, the house of Judah is like unto all the heathen;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:9 “Therefore, behold, I will open the side of Moab from the cities, from his cities which are on his frontiers, the glory of the country, Bethjeshimoth, Baalmeon, and Kiriathaim,”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:10 “Unto the men of the east with the Ammonites, and will give them in possession, that the Ammonites may not be remembered among the nations.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:11 “And I will execute judgments upon Moab; and they shall know that I am the LORD.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:12 “Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Edom hath dealt against the house of Judah by taking vengeance, and hath greatly offended, and revenged himself upon them;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:13 “Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also stretch out mine hand upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it desolate from Teman; and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:14 “And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:15 “Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred;”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:16 “Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 25:17 “And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ammon – see Amos 1:13, see also Jeremiah 40:11[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edomites probationers[/FONT]

“In the directions first given to Moses concerning their passage through Edom, after declaring that the Edomites should be afraid of Israel, the Lord had forbidden His people to make use of this advantage against them. Because the power of God was engaged for Israel, and the fears of the Edomites would make them an easy prey, the Hebrews were not therefore to prey upon them. The command given them was, “Take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore: meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given Mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.” Deuteronomy 2:4, 5. The Edomites were descendants of Abraham and Isaac, and for the sake of these His servants, God had shown favor to the children of Esau. He had given them Mount Seir for a possession, and they were not to be disturbed unless by their sins they should place themselves beyond the reach of His mercy. The Hebrews were to dispossess and utterly destroy the inhabitants of Canaan, who had filled up the measure of their iniquity but the Edomites were still probationers, and as such were to be mercifully dealt with. God delights in mercy, and He manifests His compassion before He inflicts His judgments. He teaches Israel to spare the people of Edom, before requiring them to destroy the inhabitants of Canaan.” - Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 423.2 (1)

““Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? ... Yet I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation forever.”” - SW January 3, 1905, par. 6

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"After passing south of Edom, the Israelites turned northward toward the Promised Land. Their route now lay over a vast, elevated plain, swept by cool, fresh breezes, a welcome change from the parched valley. They pressed forward, buoyant and hopeful. The command had been given, “Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot.” The same was repeated concerning the Ammonites, also descendants of Lot."- From Eternity Past, p. 304.1 (1) [/FONT]
and also Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 433.1 (1)

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:42 “He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Egypt represents the world, and its sin, the worldly, the carnal, even as Moses gave up the wealth of Egypt and the pleasures of sin to follow God...[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Egypt, see Zechariah 14:17-19[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Land Of Egypt, representing the World – see Ezekiel 32:16-18; 2 Samuel 7:23, that which openly denies Christ and His Law, especially His Sabbath, even as Pharaoh did, and the Land of Egypt experienced the very plagues, it is also the House of Bondage, see Exodus 20:2; Deut 5:6; see also Exodus 12:33, Out of Egypt have I called my son [Christ and us] – Matthew 2:15[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Riches of Egypt, see Hebrews 11:26[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Egypt was uncircumcised and in heart as well – Jeremiah 9:26[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Israel was saved out of the Land of Egypt, to be given Canaan – Exo 3:8; Lev 25:38; Judges 2:1, etc.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In the days of Joseph, Money failed in the Land of Egypt and in Canaan.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Israel was a stranger and bondmen in the Land of Egypt – Lev 26:13; Deut 5:15, 6:12, 8:14, 10:19, etc, Acts 13:17, etc is a land of Oppressors – Isaiah 19:20; 1 Samuel 10:18[/FONT]
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Israel was not to do the things of Egypt – Lev 18:3[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Egypt was neighbor to Israel – Ezekiel 16:26[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Egypt was “great of flesh” [many people] – Ezekiel 16:26[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]See Deut 11:10, Land of Egypt is not as the Land of Canaan.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]See Psalms 81:5, The Land of Egypt is the Land of a strange language, contrast to Isaiah 19:18, Language of Canaan.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Land of Egypt is the Land of Pharaoh – Exodus 6:11; Deut 11:3, 29:2, see also Genesis 47:20[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Land of Egypt is the Land of Ham [son of Noah] – Psalms 105:23 [Psalms 78:51, 105:27, 106:22; 1 Chronicles 4:40][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]See Jeremiah 24:8, for Israel trusting in the safety of Egypt, see Jeremiah 42:14-16, Nahum 3:9; Hosea 7:11,16[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In the Land of Egypt is BethShemsh, or House of the Sun God – Jeremiah 43:13, and those that dwell in the Land of Egypt are punished – Jeremiah 44:13, 44:26, etc[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Babylon smote Egypt – Jeremiah 46:13; Ezekiel 29:19, 30:13,25, 32:15; see also 2 Kings 24:7[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The Land of Egypt was filled with Idols and false gods.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]See Amos 9:7 for Israel/Ethiopians[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]See Joel 3:19, for the violence of Egypt and Edom done to Israel.[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...[/FONT]Brethren, whatever business you engage in, whatever department of the work is allotted to you, carry your religion with you. God and heaven should not be left out of the experience and the lifework. The workers in this cause should guard against becoming one-sided men and letting only the worldly element in their characters appear. In the past there have been decided failures on the part of men connected with the office. They have not been spiritually minded; and their influence has not tended to lead toward the heavenly Canaan, but backward toward Egypt. ...” - Testimonies for the Church Volume 5, p. 411.1 (1)

Remember also from the previous of Daniel 11:40

“...Notwithstanding the Lord’s witnesses were clothed in sackcloth, they continued to prophesy throughout the entire period of 1260 years. In the darkest times there were faithful men who loved God’s word, and were jealous for his honor. To these loyal servants were given wisdom, power, and authority to declare his truth during the whole of this time.

“And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” [Revelation 11:7, 8.]

These events were to take place near the close of the period in which the witnesses testified in sackcloth. Through the medium of the papacy, Satan had long controlled the powers that ruled in Church and State. The fearful results were specially apparent in those countries that rejected the light of the Reformation. There was a state of moral debasement and corruption similar to the condition of Sodom just prior to its destruction, and to the idolatry and spiritual darkness that prevailed in Egypt in the days of Moses.
In no land had the spirit of enmity against Christ and the truth been more strikingly displayed than in giddy and godless France. Nowhere had the gospel encountered more bitter and cruel opposition. In the streets of Paris, Christ had indeed been crucified in the person of his saints. The world still recalls with shuddering horror the scenes of that most cowardly and cruel onslaught, the Massacre of St. Bartholomew. The king of France, urged on by Romish priests and prelates, lent his sanction to the dreadful work. The palace bell, tolling at midnight, gave the signal for the slaughter to begin. Protestants by thousands, sleeping quietly in their homes, trusting to the plighted honor of their king, were dragged forth without a warning, and murdered in cold blood.

Satan, in the person of the Roman zealots, led the van. As Christ was the invisible leader of his people from Egyptian bondage, so was Satan the unseen leader of his subjects in this horrible work of multiplying martyrs. For three days the butchery went on; more than thirty thousand perished. The result caused great joy to the hosts of darkness. The Roman pontiff, sharing in the diabolical rejoicing, proclaimed a jubilee to be observed throughout his dominions, to celebrate the event.

The same master-spirit that urged in the Massacre of St. Bartholomew, led also in the scenes of the French Revolution. Satan seemed to triumph. Notwithstanding the labors of the Reformers, he had succeeded in holding vast multitudes in ignorance concerning God and his word. Now he appeared in a new guise. In France arose an atheistical power that openly declared war against the authority of Heaven. Men threw off all restraint. The law of God was trampled under foot. Those who could engage in the most Heaven-daring blasphemy and the most abominable wickedness were most highly exalted. Fornication was sanctioned by law. Profanity and corruption seemed deluging the earth. In all this, supreme homage was paid to Satan, while Christ, in his characteristics of truth, purity, and unselfish love, was crucified. The Bible was publicly burned. The Sabbath was blotted out. Romanism had enjoined image worship; now divine honors were paid to the vilest objects. The work which the papacy had begun, atheism completed. The one withheld from the people the truths of the Bible; the other taught them to reject both the Bible and its Author. The seed sown by priests and prelates was yielding its evil fruit.

Terrible indeed was the condition of infidel France. The word of truth lay dead in her streets, and those who hated the restrictions and requirements of God’s law were jubilant. But transgression and rebellion were followed by the sure result. Unhappy France reaped in blood the harvest she had sown. The war against the Bible and the law of God banished peace and happiness from the hearts and homes of men. ...” - The Spirit of Prophecy Volume 4, p. 190.3 (1) and 191,192.

“...When Satan wrought through the Roman Church to lead men away from obedience, his work was disguised. By the working of the Spirit of God his purposes were prevented from reaching their full fruition. The people did not trace the effect to its cause and discover the source of their miseries. But in the Revolution the law of God was openly set aside by the National Council. And in the Reign of Terror which followed, the working of cause and effect could be seen by all.

The transgression of a just and righteous law must result in ruin. The restraining Spirit of God, which imposes a check upon the cruel power of Satan, was in a great measure removed, and he whose delight is the wretchedness of men was permitted to work his will. Those who had chosen rebellion were left to reap its fruits. The land was filled with crimes. From devastated provinces and ruined cities a terrible cry was heard of bitter anguish. France was shaken as if by an earthquake. Religion, law, social order, the family, the state, and the church—all were smitten down by the impious hand that had been lifted against the law of God. ...” - From Here To Forever, page 177-178.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 11:44 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“[/FONT]But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...tidings...” = news, Revelation 18[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...out of the east and out of the north...” =since the King of the North is down conquering the Land of Egypt, and the Ethipians and the Libyans are at his steps, then after this point we see that a message [news] comes out of the EAST and NORTH of Egypt [spiritually], thus this points to Jerusalem [spiritually], and thus we see a message coming out of God's people at that time...[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...trouble...” = to cause great alarm, to be terrified of[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...him...” = King of the North [endtime Babylon the Great, total coalition, Mystery Babylon the Great, Dragon, Beast and Fasle Prophet and thus also the world which follows it][/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...great fury to destroy...” = Death Decree, see Revelation 13 and also Danmiel 3 and 6 and Esther, etc:[/FONT]

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Revelation 13:15

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...utterly make away many...” = and seek to destroy them forever, to ban, seek to eliminate and or dedicate for destruction.[/FONT]

And thus in Daniel 12:1, is the close of Probation, Christ Jesus stands, ministration as High Priest is over in the Most Holy Place [He who is filthy, he who is righteous let him be still] and the time of Trouble such as never was, Jacobs Trouble, and He is coming as King of Kings.

PS: The Great Controversy Chapter 39—The Time of Trouble begins Daniel 12:1, so between Chapter 15 and 39, is really helpful for Daniel 11:40-45, 12:1 and onward. Hint hint...

Reflections on Daniel 11: https://www.audioverse.org/english/sermons/recordings/490/reflections-on-daniel-11.html

Daniel 12:2 is the Special resurrection [that they may see Jesus come in the clouds of Glory, some righteous and some wicked] before the First Great Resurrection [of all Righteous left in the graves], see Revelation 1:7, 14:13 [after AD 1843, blessed are they, see also the 1,335 years, and the 3 Angels Messages of Rev 14]; Daniel 12:2,12; Matthew 26:64; Mark 14:62, etc, see also SoP.

• The First Resurrection
• 1Th 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
• Second Resurrection
• Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
• Special Resurrection of the Wicked
• Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
• To the Pharisees
• Mat 23:37-39 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (38) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. (39) For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
• Blessed, Second Coming
• The triumphal ride of Christ into Jerusalem was the dim foreshadowing of His coming in the clouds of heaven with power and glory, amid the triumph of angels and the rejoicing of the saints. Then will be fulfilled the words of Christ to the priests and Pharisees: "Ye shall not see Me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord." Matthew 23:39. In prophetic vision Zechariah was shown that day of final triumph; and he beheld also the doom of those who at the first advent had rejected Christ: "They shall look upon Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born." Zechariah 12:10. {DA 580}
• Blessed, After Millennium
• At the close of the thousand years, Christ again returns to the earth. He is accompanied by the host of the redeemed and attended by a retinue of angels. As He descends in terrific majesty He bids the wicked dead arise to receive their doom. They come forth, a mighty host, numberless as the sands of the sea. What a contrast to those who were raised at the first resurrection! The righteous were clothed with immortal youth and beauty. The wicked bear the traces of disease and death. {GC 662.1}
• Every eye in that vast multitude is turned to behold the glory of the Son of God. With one voice the wicked hosts exclaim: "Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord!" It is not love to Jesus that inspires this utterance. The force of truth urges the words from unwilling lips.
• To Caiaphas
• Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
• Special Resurrection of the Righteous
• Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
• Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
• Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
• Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
• The Sequence
• Dan 12:1-2 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (2) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
• The Sequence
• 1. Daniel stands up (probation closes, GC 613)
• 2. Time of Trouble (GC 613)
• 3. God’s people delivered (GC 635-636)
• 4. Special Resurrection (GC 637, next slide)
• Graves are opened, and "many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth. . . awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2. All who have died in the faith of the third angel's message come forth from the tomb glorified, to hear God's covenant of peace with those who have kept His law. "They also which pierced Him" (Revelation 1:7), those that mocked and derided Christ's dying agonies, and the most violent opposers of His truth and His people, are raised to behold Him in His glory and to see the honor placed upon the loyal and obedient. {GC 637.1}
• The Sequence
• 1. Daniel stands up (probation closes, GC 613)
• 2. Time of Trouble (GC 613)
• 3. God’s people delivered (GC 635-636)
• 4. Special Resurrection (GC 637)
• 5. Voice of God announcing the hour (GC 640)
• The voice of God is heard from heaven, declaring the day and hour of Jesus' coming, and delivering the everlasting covenant to His people. Like peals of loudest thunder His words roll through the earth. The Israel of God stand listening, with their eyes fixed upward. Their countenances are lighted up with His glory, and shine as did the face of Moses when he came down from Sinai. The wicked cannot look upon them. And when the blessing is pronounced on those who have honored God by keeping His Sabbath holy, there is a mighty shout of victory. {GC 640.2}
• The Sequence
• 1. Daniel stands up (probation closes, GC 613)
• 2. Time of Trouble (GC 613)
• 3. God’s people delivered (GC 635-636)
• 4. Special Resurrection (GC 637)
• 5. Voice of God announcing the hour
• 6. Small black cloud (Mar 287)
• Small Black Cloud
• And I saw a flaming cloud come where Jesus stood. Then Jesus . . . took His place on the cloud which carried Him to the East, where it first appeared to the saints on earth--a small black cloud which was the sign of the Son of man. While the cloud was passing from the Holiest to the East, which took a number of days, the synagogue of Satan worshipped at the saints' feet. {Mar 287.8}
• Synagogue of Satan
• Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
• The Sequence
• 1. Daniel stands up (probation closes, GC 613)
• 2. Time of Trouble (GC 613)
• 3. God’s people delivered (GC 635-636)
• 4. Special Resurrection (GC 637)
• 5. Voice of God announcing the hour
• 6. Small black cloud
• 7. General resurrection (GC 644)
• General Resurrection
• Amid the reeling of the earth, the flash of lightning, and the roar of thunder, the voice of the Son of God calls forth the sleeping saints. He looks upon the graves of the righteous, then, raising His hands to heaven, He cries: "Awake, awake, awake, ye that sleep in the dust, and arise!" Throughout the length and breadth of the earth the dead shall hear that voice, and they that hear shall live. And the whole earth shall ring with the tread of the exceeding great army of every nation, kindred, tongue, and people. …
• All come forth from their graves the same in stature as when they entered the tomb. Adam, who stands among the risen throng, is of lofty height and majestic form, in stature but little below the Son of God. He presents a marked contrast to the people of later generations; in this one respect is shown the great degeneracy of the race. GC 644
• Why?
• Special privilege to see the last moments as we have a special understanding.
• We will be another living contrast between the wicked and the righteous.
• We will be reunited on earth with our fellow Seventh Day Adventists (pioneers, recently passed friends).

Daniel 12:3, immortality gained, in the twinking of an eye... Christ Jesus is come [Philippians 2:14-15, 1 Corinthians 15:52, etc]

Sorry had to rush all of it... it is not all put together yet...