Clint Eastwood gave the most incredible speech of the Republican convention

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I can just picture Obama in front of a crowd of FOX News fans, racists and ultra right wing fanatics, Arian race thugs, and God forbid (the worst of all) NEO LIBERALS a.k.a. Neo Conservatives or in the US; Libertarians, chanting: "Crucify him, crucify him, crucify him".:doh:

just a suggestion...

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Clint Eastwood is really being bashed in the media, even my beloved Fox News - I guess that means he was a big success. I thought he was great.


The bashing just gets more folks to check it out.
 
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I'm tellin ya he was a dem plant...

Here's a dem plant...

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I can just picture Obama in front of a crowd of FOX News fans, racists and ultra right wing fanatics, Arian race thugs, and God forbid (the worst of all) NEO LIBERALS a.k.a. Neo Conservatives or in the US; Libertarians, chanting: "Crucify him, crucify him, crucify him".:doh:

??? I can't. That would never happen.
This is earth. Welcome to it.
 
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I can just picture Obama in front of a crowd of FOX News fans, racists and ultra right wing fanatics, Arian race thugs, and God forbid (the worst of all) NEO LIBERALS a.k.a. Neo Conservatives or in the US; Libertarians, chanting: "Crucify him, crucify him, crucify him".:doh:
I believe you.

Of course - and it seems we just need to keep repeating this until the truth sinks in - Obama is not Jesus Christ; nor is Obama a Messiah - regardless how some may picture him.
 
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Clint Eastwood is really being bashed in the media, even my beloved Fox News - I guess that means he was a big success. I thought he was great.
He was great - that's precisely why he's being bashed.

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Here's a dem plant...

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How ironic - a walking, talking, "sophisticated" gaff machine, who demonstrates with uncanny regularity and hilarious outcome neither the ability to think nor remember.

Plants cannot “think and remember,” but there’s nothing stupid about them: They’re shockingly sophisticated | Observations, Scientific American Blog Network
"A big mistake people make is speaking as if plants ‘know’ what they’re doing," says Elizabeth Van Volkenburgh, a botanist at the University of Washington.

^_^
 
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Most of the media that I've heard talk about Eastwood's speech was accurate. It could have been really good, but it appeared to be ad-lib. For this I say shame on the organizer or organizers that put him on without going over the material first. If they haven't been fired they should be. Not so much because Clint messed it up so bad, but because this was a distraction from Romney's big moment.

What many of the Republicans on this board don't seem to get is that the convention is not just for the party faithful, it is being watched by millions of people who are not decided yet, and they are looking for something that will help them decide. Distractions from their candidates acceptance speech was not a good idea. The speeches preceding Romney should have all been the folks they had that told about the human side of the candidate-they should have been primetime. Eastwood should have been Tuesday night. And they should have made sure he was prepared, which he clearly was not.
 
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Most of the media that I've heard talk about Eastwood's speech was accurate. It could have been really good, but it appeared to be ad-lib. For this I say shame on the organizer or organizers that put him on without going over the material first. If they haven't been fired they should be. Not so much because Clint messed it up so bad, but because this was a distraction from Romney's big moment.

What many of the Republicans on this board don't seem to get is that the convention is not just for the party faithful, it is being watched by millions of people who are not decided yet, and they are looking for something that will help them decide. Distractions from their candidates acceptance speech was not a good idea. The speeches preceding Romney should have all been the folks they had that told about the human side of the candidate-they should have been primetime. Eastwood should have been Tuesday night. And they should have made sure he was prepared, which he clearly was not.

Your assessment reassures me that it was a big win.

I do note how swiftly you move from "appeared to be" to a firing. The quirkiness multiplies repeat viewings. And repeat viewings sends the message that it is time for Obama to go.

If the schedulers should be fired for botching this event, why in the world should Obama be reelected after botching a four year opportunity ???
 
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Your assessment reassures me that it was a big win.

I do note how swiftly you move from "appeared to be" to a firing. The quirkiness multiplies repeat viewings. And repeat viewings sends the message that it is time for Obama to go.

If the schedulers should be fired for botching this event, why in the world should Obama be reelected after botching a four year opportunity ???
Excellent point.

And by any measure - be it left or right, GOP or DEM, liberal or conservative - this president has failed on every account to do his job.

Frankly, it's a bit pathetic to see the Dems defending him -- let alone feeling they somehow must. What they should be doing is replacing him themselves - I mean, he's failed them as much as he's failed the country.
 
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Frankly, it's a bit pathetic to see the Dems defending him -- let alone feeling they somehow must. What they should be doing is replacing him themselves - I mean, he's failed them as much as he's failed the country.

It would be great if it were possible to swap him out for an actual progressive, but sadly our only other choice is someone who vows to make all the same mistakes Obama has made only more thoroughly since it's a part of the party line. Thanks but no thanks.
 
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Your assessment reassures me that it was a big win.

I do note how swiftly you move from "appeared to be" to a firing. The quirkiness multiplies repeat viewings. And repeat viewings sends the message that it is time for Obama to go.

If the schedulers should be fired for botching this event, why in the world should Obama be reelected after botching a four year opportunity ???

My post had nothing to do with any of this. It was simply an assessment on the topic of this thread.
 
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Excellent point.

And by any measure - be it left or right, GOP or DEM, liberal or conservative - this president has failed on every account to do his job.

Frankly, it's a bit pathetic to see the Dems defending him -- let alone feeling they somehow must. What they should be doing is replacing him themselves - I mean, he's failed them as much as he's failed the country.

What is really pathetic is the republican propensity for diversion.
 
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It would be great if it were possible to swap him out for an actual progressive, but sadly our only other choice is someone who vows to make all the same mistakes Obama has made only more thoroughly since it's a part of the party line. Thanks but no thanks.
Peel away the layers of politics though (no one can please everyone all the time, politically) and I think you've got your wish already - and have for the past 4 years.
 
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Peel away the layers of politics though (no one can please everyone all the time, politically) and I think you've got your wish already - and have for the past 4 years.

To be clear, I'd like someone who consistently pushes for progressive policies. Obama my be, deep down in his presidential heart, a strong progressive. He hasn't acted like much of one so far, however.
 
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To be clear, I'd like someone who consistently pushes for progressive policies. Obama my be, deep down in his presidential heart, a strong progressive. He hasn't acted like much of one so far, however.
Which was my point - no president; no politician can be wholly "one thing" successfully -- regardless how strong their ideology or world view; for they represent not just themselves or their supporters, but the whole of their constituency - those with supporting views, and those without. And to caveat that properly... in a free country, where the people enjoy the fundamental rights of a free country.

It's only in a dictatorship where one can "enjoy" the pure ideology and world view of their leader - and must, or else.
 
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I can easily believe that Mr. Eastwood is not wild about President Obama. But unless he had something to say about Governor Romney (anything, preferably good, of course) everyone would've been better off if Romney's friends and family spoke in his place. Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin said as much, and I absolutely agree. That was embarrassing, and I'm not even voting for Romney. I felt really sorry for Mrs. Romney too -- he didn't say ANYTHING about her husband, and you just don't do that!
 
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I can easily believe that Mr. Eastwood is not wild about President Obama. But unless he had something to say about Governor Romney (anything, preferably good, of course) everyone would've been better off if Romney's friends and family spoke in his place. Rick Santorum said as much, and I absolutely agree. That was embarrassing, and I'm not even voting for Romney. I felt really sorry for Mrs. Romney too -- he didn't say ANYTHING about her husband, and you just don't do that!

Nah, it did a great job of pointing to the need to fire an exec. who had failed. Every speech doesn't do the same thing.

Can you remember any line from Santorum's speech?
 
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I rofl'd BIG time when Jon Stewart pointed out Eastwood's empty chair technique and said the reason the GOP might be so angry with Obama is because they see an Obama nobody else sees.

That really could explain everything. Even if not literal, it does encapsulate everything hilariously and profoundly. The Obama who wasn't there, i.e., the one filtered through the rightwing rage crowd that has already fallen off the cliff of reason.
 
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