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the only thing is, everwhere Paul stressed abrahamic usage, it was pre circumcision, for us today. rom 4.
This is good and shows the difference between faith in the Lord and faith in the written code ...

When did Abraham receive the request to be circumcized ? It was *after* believing Him . And , it was good - because He was doing what the Lord told him - faith in the Lord .

Now , Paul has a problem with Gentiles *after* belief being coerced into circumcism by believing Jews . And , Paul says it was bad - because if they did so , it would be because others and writings told them - faith in anything *but* the Lord .

Faith comes from hearing the Lord - that is what Abraham did . That is *not* what was happening when the believing Jews were pushing obedience to the Scriptures onto the Gentiles .
 
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We should never throw out the rules, weathered, my beautiful brother in Christ. We should always thank God for His mercy, and His righteousness, and call OURSELVES the sinners that we are.
On the topic of marriage, I will tell you what I eventually learned: marriage is NOT a slip of paper, it is NOT a legal document. Marriage is a covenant before God, and one to be considered with the utmost seriousness. It is also a very hard undertaking for someone such as yourself and me, because when we bind ourselves to a sinful situation, it truly feels right in our fallible hearts! Why, God, I asked, can't I just keep things the way they are?! This is comfortable and I am happy this way!
And then I grew, and got closer to God, and my eyes were opened. We hurt ourselves when we don't do it God's way, but the hurt feels so good, we convince ourselves God is okay with it.
When we finally give our lives over completely, letting go of our comfortable sins, we open ourselves up to a peace and comfort that is so much more than worldly things could ever offer!
God is WORTHY TO BE PRAISED! And His LOVE ENDURES FOREVER! YESSSS!
 
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You ask others when you already know the answers ?

Did not Jesus do the same?

Luke 2:46
And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
 
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Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.:thumbsup:

You beat me to it!^_^
 
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Did not Jesus do the same?

Luke 2:46
And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
No - not quite . Being deceptive is not something I would say that Jesus did . Yet , it *is* something that is done routinely in these forums and in other christian circles . Context is important to show if one is asking for information that they do not know and asking to see if anyone else knows besides themselves .
 
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We should never throw out the rules, weathered, my beautiful brother in Christ. We should always thank God for His mercy, and His righteousness, and call OURSELVES the sinners that we are.
On the topic of marriage, I will tell you what I eventually learned: marriage is NOT a slip of paper, it is NOT a legal document. Marriage is a covenant before God, and one to be considered with the utmost seriousness. It is also a very hard undertaking for someone such as yourself and me, because when we bind ourselves to a sinful situation, it truly feels right in our fallible hearts! Why, God, I asked, can't I just keep things the way they are?! This is comfortable and I am happy this way!
And then I grew, and got closer to God, and my eyes were opened. We hurt ourselves when we don't do it God's way, but the hurt feels so good, we convince ourselves God is okay with it.
When we finally give our lives over completely, letting go of our comfortable sins, we open ourselves up to a peace and comfort that is so much more than worldly things could ever offer!
God is WORTHY TO BE PRAISED! And His LOVE ENDURES FOREVER! YESSSS!


This seems to suggest that a person is not bound by the law in this situation, if my english KJV translation is accurate and i understand it properly.


1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
 
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Luke 11:53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:

Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

Jerm 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

That happens here all the time
 
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is a christian unimputed, on a bad day?


if you say yes, u imply earned righteousness, and that is unmerciful.
Only if it was unmerciful for God to exile man from the garden into a world of pain, suffering, and death for his original act of disobedience.
 
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weathered said:
This seems to suggest that a person is not bound by the law in this situation, if my english KJV translation is accurate and i understand it properly.

1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

I am not sure what the relevance is of this? We are not speaking of anyone who is married to an unbeliever.
 
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No - not quite . Being deceptive is not something I would say that Jesus did . Yet , it *is* something that is done routinely in these forums and in other christian circles . Context is important to show if one is asking for information that they do not know and asking to see if anyone else knows besides themselves .

So now I am a deceiver because you say so? I suppose if I desired to please men then I might be offended.;)
 
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So now I am a deceiver because you say so? I suppose if I desired to please men then I might be offended.;)


John 7:12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.

Obviously you cant please eveyone, even the Son of God couldnt:thumbsup:
 
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weathered said:
Funny marriage comes up, me here struggling in life not knowing which way to go, stuck in a situation where i am living with a women for 13 years, not married, me sleeping on the couch wondering if i should have a piece of paper, a written legal document of marriage, much like was described in another post, and not having money to fix the problem, struggling to get away from weed addiction so i can, struggling against my flesh in many ways, trying my best to obey the Lord in all ways, i cant drive or work right now, things are tough. But i wonder, should i worry about those rules? Its not about rules is it?

I'm confused brother? Are you married now to her? Is she an unbeliever? If you are not married, but in a relationship with someone who does not believe, then you should put the relationship on hold and give her the opportunity to come to Christ before thinking of marriage, "lest ye be unequally yoked."
If you are struggling with the flesh, give God a chance to work in you! He can, and will!
 
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