New Covenant of Jeremiah 31 Hebrew 8

Heavens said:

Agreed



Hey lamb, do you know the details of how John was able to escape the isle of patmos and deliever the Revelation of Jesus Christ to the New Jerusalem Church in time to re-warn them of His wrath to come in the next year or so in AD 70?
PS, quite the picture you have there of that Old Jerusalem harlot being burnt as prophecied.

Also, do you see these verses in relation to that?



(Gen 38:24) And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy (widowed) daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt.

(Rev 18:7) How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
(Rev 18:8) Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

(Isa 47:9) But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.

(Jer 44:17) But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

(Jer 44:22) So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.


(Amo 2:5) But I will send a fire upon Judah, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem.

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visionary said:

But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My Law in their mind, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Jeremiah 31:33

God never said.. my "NEW" Law will be put into their minds.

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visionary said:

But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My Law in their mind, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Jeremiah 31:33

God never said.. my "NEW" Law will be put into their minds.

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(Heb 7:12) For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

There is nothing similar of the new law of Christ in me, as compared to that old sinai law, thank God.

It is as different as a woman who is an O.T. Israel harlot wife of God, compared to the N.T. Israel pure and beautiful wife of Christ;

Here is one of dozens of scriptures where we see God describing His O.T. old Jerusalem Law wife, a wife of "whoredoms"

(Jer 3:1) They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
(Jer 3:2) Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
(Jer 3:3) Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a harlot's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.


By Contrast, in the NEW CHANGED LAW, we have a beautiful pure white and adorned and crowned New Jerusalem Wife;

(Heb 12:22) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

(Gal 4:26) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

(Rev 12:1) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

(Rev 21:2) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rom 7:4) Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

So yes, we are "dead to the law" that came out of Sinai.

We "live" now in the New Changed Law of Life and Liberty in Christ. A very distinct contrast displayed openly before us. It is just a choice for us to decide upon. Let us choose the Law of Life

(Rom 8:2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

visionary said:

Revelations was written after 70AD...

According to Eusebius, John was sent to Patmos in the year 95 by the Roman emperor Domitian

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So I’ve proven it to myself out of scripture. Here’s the info if anyone else is interested in proving it to themselves also

visionary said:

In Jeremiah 31:31, this indeed is about the new covenant with Judah and Israel. Therefore, if Gentiles are to be brought into this New Covenant, than they would have to be "engrafted" into Israel, as Romans 11 describes.

Its kinda like emig...rating to the United States. A foreigner was once a stranger to the U.S. and not subject to certain promises and blessings of being a citizen, but when he becomes "naturalized" he is now a U.S. citizen and he is subject to the same laws, statutes, etc.

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Heavens said:

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Concerning the date of the writing of the Revelation, there is division, true. So how do we now discern which date is true?

Examples in Hebrews;

Compare Hebrews to Revelation;

Hebrews Revelation
4:12 19:13
4:12 1:16
10:27 20:10
11:10 20:14
9:23 everywhere
1:14 8:3 etc
11:40 6:11

“These things which must shortly come to pass” are without a doubt, in direct reference to the Olivet prophecy, which both Hebrews and Peter use the characters and phrases borrowed from Revelation. Only seeing these things with this light of understanding, can we know the message of Christ to the Churches.

Blessings in Christ

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Originally Posted by LastSeven The difference between the old and the new covenant is described here.

Jeremiah 31:31-34

The old covenant was something the people had to learn and work to keep. The new covenant is written on our hearts by grace as Jesus lives in us.

The only way our sins are remembered no more (new covenant) is if we are washed clean by the blood of the lamb. Therefore anyone who is a follower of Jesus is a member of the new covenant, by definition.

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Heavens said:

Actually, he sure did visionary; The "law" is the "old covenant". A marriage covenant at Sinai.
The New Law is the New Marriage Covenant of the true Israel to Christ, in His blood.
The "law" is "changed";

aka "new heavens new earth";

(Isa 66:22) For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

(Jer 31:31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
(Jer 31:33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

(Heb 7:12) For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

There is nothing similar of the new law of Christ in me, as compared to that old sinai law, thank God.

It is as different as a woman who is an O.T. Israel harlot wife of God, compared to the N.T. Israel pure and beautiful wife of Christ;

Here is one of dozens of scriptures where we see God describing His O.T. old Jerusalem Law wife, a wife of "whoredoms"

(Jer 3:1) They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
(Jer 3:2) Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
(Jer 3:3) Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a harlot's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.


By Contrast, in the NEW CHANGED LAW, we have a beautiful pure white and adorned and crowned New Jerusalem Wife;

(Heb 12:22) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

(Gal 4:26) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

(Rev 12:1) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

(Rev 21:2) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rom 7:4) Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

So yes, we are "dead to the law" that came out of Sinai.

We "live" now in the New Changed Law of Life and Liberty in Christ. A very distinct contrast displayed openly before us. It is just a choice for us to decide upon. Let us choose the Law of Life

(Rom 8:2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

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visionary said:

Even everything you quoted.. where the place, the time, the people, the priests, the temple and the placement of the commandments are all changed.. all these changes are on the parchment that Moses wrote.. but not that which is written on the tables of stone.. they are only transferred to the heart... not a word changed in them though..

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child of Jesus said:

Frequently Asked Questions About Hebrew Roots

Hebrew Roots FAQ's and Myths​

Basic Doctrinal Issues​

Myth. It is a Renewed Covenant, not a New Covenant. It a Renewed Covenant not a New Testament.​

A. There are many in Hebrew Roots or Hebraic Roots and some who call themselves Messianics who believe that Jeremiah 31:31-32 means a renewed covenant, not a new covenant. What is accomplished by calling it renewed? And what do the Scriptures really say?
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: In Jeremiah 31:31 the Hebrew clearly says brit (covenant) chadasha (new). If you were to ask any fluent Hebrew speaker, regardless of their religious beliefs, what chadashameans, they will agree it means "new". Further, the words following it say "lo k´brit ", not like the covenant , that I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand…"

New> H2319 &#1495;&#1491;&#1513;&#1473; cha&#770;da&#770;sh khaw-dawsh' From H2318; new: - fresh, new thing.
Covenant >H1285 &#1489;&#1468;&#1512;&#1497;&#1514; beri&#770;yth ber-eeth' From H1262 (in the sense of cutting (like H1254)); a compact (because made by passing between pieces of flesh): - confederacy, [con-]feder[-ate], covenant, league.
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This tells us that the prophecy that was being laid out by God through Jeremiah, was that it was going to be a new and different covenant to the one made when God took the Israelites out of Egypt.. Scripture records how they did break the covenant, and hence the need of a new covenant. Some compare the concept of the renewed covenant with the moon being 'renewed' therefore it correlates to the covenant not being new, but renewed. However, they neither study to understand the Scriptures nor know them. Most have access to a Strong's Concordance, Thayer's or Brown's Driver Brigg's (BDB), which can help with word studies. If you look at the word Renew, we find it is translated ten times in total from Hebrew.

Ten times we find the word chadash, used in the OT in the KJV: 3 times as "renew"; 3 times as "repair"; 2 times as "renewed"; 2 times as "renewest".

Strong's H2318
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&#1495;&#1491;&#1513;&#1473; cha&#770;dash khaw-dash' A primitive root; to be new; causatively to rebuild: - renew, repair
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H2318 &#1495;&#1491;&#1513;&#1473; cha&#770;dash BDB Definition: 1) to be new, renew, repair...

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Renew: Psalm 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. ( 1Samuel 11:14; Lam 5:21)
Renewed: Psalm 103:5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's. (2 Ch 24:4)
Renewest: Psalm 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth. (Job 10:17)
Repair: 2Ch 24:4, 2Ch 24:12, Isa 61:4

The other two times we see renew and one time as renewed, comes from Strong's 2498, chalaph, which is found used 28 times in the OT in the KJV. 6 times as "changed"; 4 times as "change"; 2 times as "groweth"; 2 times as "pass"; 2 times as "passed"; 1 as "abolish"; 1 as "alter"; 1 as "cut"; 1 as "go"; 1 as "over"; 1 as "passeth"; 1 as "sprout"; 1 as "stricken"; 1 as "strike"
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Strong's H2498 &#1495;&#1500;&#1507;
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cha&#770;laph khaw-laf' A primitive root; properly to slide by, that is, (by implication) to hasten away, pass on, spring up, pierce or change: - abolish, alter change, cut off, go on forward, grow up, be over, pass (away, on, through), renew, sprout, strike through.
BDB Definition :H2498 1) to pass on or away, pass through, pass by, go through, grow up, change, to go on from...
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Renew: Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

Isaiah 41:1 Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment.
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Renewed: Job 29:20 My glory was fresh in me, and my bow was renewed in my hand.

The word NEW is found translated from seven different words in the OT. For space, Strong's concordance will be used:

H1069 &#1489;&#1468;&#1499;&#1512; ba&#770;kar baw-kar' A primitive root; properly to burst the womb, that is, (causatively) bear or make early fruit (of woman or tree); also (as denominatively from H1061) to give the birthright: - make firstborn, be firstling, bring forth first child (new fruit).
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Of the six occurrences in the KJV, it is found as new once in Ezekiel 47:12 "...it shall bring forth NEW fruit according to his months, ..."

H1278 &#1489;&#1468;&#1512;&#1497;&#1488;&#1492; beri&#770;y'a&#770;h ber-ee-aw' Feminine from H1254; a creation, that is, a novelty: - new thing.
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New is found only once in Numbers 16:30 "...But if the LORD make a new thing,..."

H2323
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&#1495;&#1491;&#1514;cha&#774;da&#770;th khad-ath' (Chaldee); corresponding to H2319 ; new: - new.
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It ( cha&#774;da&#770;th) was originally Aramaic. which means new. It corresponds to H2319 which is cha&#770;da&#770;sh which BDB defines as "new, new thing, fresh" . Jesus speaks of the new testament, which means new covenant, in His blood.

Mat 26:27-28
(27) And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; (28) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Strong's Greek > new G2537 - kainos kahee-nos' Of uncertain affinity; new (especially in freshness; while G3501 is properly so with respect to age): - new.
testament, G1242 diathe&#772;ke&#772; dee-ath-ay'-kay From G1303; properly a disposition, that is, (specifically) a contract (especially a devisory will): - covenant, testament.
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In the second chapter of Corinthians we see where Paul lists three differences between these two covenants.

2Corinthians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

...6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
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What Paul was saying was that the Old Covenant which was engraved in stones was glorious but that the ministry of the Spirit was more glorious, because the glory of the ministry of the law given Moses was passing away .The glory of the New overshadows the glory of the old. Thus we see that the first was a temporary one whose glory passed away, yet the New being eternal, remains.

The Old was a ministry of condemnation (v9) and death (v7), the New is the ministry of life(v6) and righteousness(v9).The law is holy but due to man´s inability to adhere to it, it became a ministry of death, showing us that man can never be righteous by his own efforts. As Isaiah the prophet said, all our righteousness is as filthy rags. Hence the need for God to provide the only way to Him, based on the righteousness of Christ.

It has been suggested that some who propagate the faulty scholarship regarding renew do so because if it is called a renewed covenant, they can then justify telling their adherents that they have to obey the Torah of Moses given at Sinai. Those who don't agree are considered non-believers and lost.
Some posit that God would never break His promise, so the Mosaic law or old covenant is still in effect. It is true that God cannot break His Word, which is what sealed the covenant with Abraham, Moses and for all other covenants. But people do break their word and promises, and the Scriptures do show that Israel was not faithful in keeping the Mosaic covenant. God repeatedly prefaced His instructions with "if" you do this, or "if" you don't.

God showed He could change the covenant because of their disobedience--and He broke it so that a better way would be known.

.......see source for more.

HR FAQ's and Myths: Myth. It is a Renewed Covenant, not a New Covenant. It a Renewed Covenant not a New Testament.
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Heavens said:

Actually, he sure did visionary; The "law" is the "old covenant". A marriage covenant at Sinai.
The New Law is the New Marriage Covenant of the true Israel to Christ, in His blood.
The "law" is "changed";

aka "new heavens new earth";

(Isa 66:22) For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

(Jer 31:31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
(Jer 31:33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

(Heb 7:12) For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

There is nothing similar of the new law of Christ in me, as compared to that old sinai law, thank God.

It is as different as a woman who is an O.T. Israel harlot wife of God, compared to the N.T. Israel pure and beautiful wife of Christ;

Here is one of dozens of scriptures where we see God describing His O.T. old Jerusalem Law wife, a wife of "whoredoms"

(Jer 3:1) They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
(Jer 3:2) Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
(Jer 3:3) Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a harlot's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.


By Contrast, in the NEW CHANGED LAW, we have a beautiful pure white and adorned and crowned New Jerusalem Wife;

(Heb 12:22) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

(Gal 4:26) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

(Rev 12:1) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

(Rev 21:2) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rom 7:4) Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

So yes, we are "dead to the law" that came out of Sinai.

We "live" now in the New Changed Law of Life and Liberty in Christ. A very distinct contrast displayed openly before us. It is just a choice for us to decide upon. Let us choose the Law of Life

(Rom 8:2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

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