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He rescued me because He delighted in me (Ps18:19)
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No one said it began in church, and you are making a very strong Straw Man argument that, of course, you will easily defeat. However, try dealing with the facts. No, marriage is not the purview of the church. It is the purview of God. He established it. He ordained it soley as one man, one woman. Now, can you kindly argue against God having exclusivity over marriage rather than the church?That marriage is not something that has a history that began exclusively in the church does not matter.
Another Straw Man. How many of these constructs do you have? No one claims heterosexuals have to "choose" anything. Heterosexuality is the way of the world. Homosexual behavior is labeled by God -- you may remember Him as He who ordained and established marriage between one man and one woman? -- as "an abomination." Homosexuals don't "choose" homosexuality any more than a drug addict chooses cocaine or heroin. Which is to say, they didn't wake up one morning and say "I think I'll be gay" or "I think I'll be a meth addict." It is the life style choices they made earlier, the environmental influences they experienced growing up, the parenting they received has all conspired against them. Yet they are still responsible for their eventual choice to act sinfully just as the addict must accept responsibility for acting sinfully. They may not know it as "sin" as they may not know God, but none of them don't know there is something aberrant about either choice. Bad parenting, bad experiences growing up, poor self-image, perhaps even some very limited genetic influence though I absolutely deny there will ever be found a "gay gene" or a "cocaine gene" or "beer gene", as God does not create for destruction. It is possible that, as with addiction, the piling on of external influences combined with a genetic weakness that predisposes one to react in a certain manner in certain circumstances will be found a scientific reality.That Gays are not Heterosexuals "choosing" to be Gay, because believing that one is admitting they're choosing to be straight and that leaves the option open to changing their mind ...
So we should stop treating alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, bipolar disorders, major depressive disorders, etc. immediately because by defining them as weak, flawed or (God forbid!) sinful, we are fostering hate? Does that really sound logical. However, while I know you think that is ridiculous, it is the same thing you are saying about gays, particularly here ...They have because they imagine sexuality is something controlled by other than the libido, is not only ridiculous but dismissive and particularly insulting to then say all means and measures that show hate and contempt for Gay equality is actually fostered by love for them.
Please don't allow yourself to find as acceptable the warped view of God's love actually being hate. He defines all sin as an abomination, yet He provides a way for all to be delivered from their sin. He has clearly called homosexual behavior as sin. You can deny this, you can argue against it, you can stomp your foot and say "No! It's not," but you will be wrong. This is turning the Bible on its head and choosing to ignore its teaching. Unaccepable. Totally and complete unacceptable.Not insulting to the Gays but insulting to the Christian that believes love hates.
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