Bible correct about earth and sky?????

I'd really like to see the hare that chews the cud, and the winged creature with 4 legs.

Was this thread started as an argument for or against flat earth?

oldwiseguy said:

I drive in the country a lot and am struck by how 'flat' the earth seems, and how much the sky looks like a 'dome' over it. Mmmmmmm.

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Does the Bible actually say the Earth is flat. I am unclear on that point.

Stoneghost said:

Does the Bible actually say the Earth is flat. I am unclear on that point.

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If I remember correctly it says it's round, not flat. It still used the 'sky-dome' as a reference though.

Stoneghost said:

Does the Bible actually say the Earth is flat. I am unclear on that point.

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No. You're probably thinking of Isa. 40:22, where it mentions "the circle of the earth".

The Bible clearly depicts the Earth as a flat, round disk covered by a crystal dome or "firmament."

http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/1flat90.html

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

It's funny that for hundreds of years the church vehemently defended the flat-earth theory by using these verses. But here comes Galileo and oh boy, they tried to silence him but eventually his findings got out...

When the church realized they couldn't hide the facts anymore they just changed their dogma. Now modern Christians and Jews will tell you that the Bible supported a spherical earth the whole time!

Sneaky sneaky Christians...

I could write an jet airliner schematic and, just by sheer coincidence, get a few things right using the, albeit next to nil, physics and engineering I happen to understand.

DaneaFL said:

The Bible clearly depicts the Earth as a flat, round disk covered by a crystal dome or "firmament."

The Skeptical Review Online - Print Edition - 1990-2002

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

It's funny that for hundreds of years the church vehemently defended the flat-earth theory by using these verses. But here comes Galileo and oh boy, they tried to silence him but eventually his findings got out...

When the church realized they couldn't hide the facts anymore they just changed their dogma. Now modern Christians and Jews will tell you that the Bible supported a spherical earth the whole time!

Sneaky sneaky Christians...

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This was a very common view of the universe not just for the ancient Hebrews but for pretty much everyone around at the time. The Old Testament is heavily influenced by Mesopotamian myths, including this view of the world (and other stuff like the flood).

One of the things that made me drift early in my apostasy was the realization that the Bible was very much a product of its time, and didn't transcend the ideas about reality of the time.

But I digress.

/gets banned for implying the Bible is wrong

Stoneghost said:

Does the Bible actually say the Earth is flat. I am unclear on that point.

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The Bible is ALWAYS accurate and true. So there is no way the Bible says the earth is flat. Actually the flat earth society had a myth were they were trying to discredit the Bible and promote atheism. The person trying to do that died an early death.

Jamin4422 said:

The Bible is ALWAYS accurate and true. So there is no way the Bible says the earth is flat.

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So anything the Bible says that isn't accurate and true isn't actually in the Bible, right?

Actually the flat earth society had a myth were they were trying to discredit the Bible and promote atheism. The person trying to do that died an early death.

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I'm sorry to hear of his untimely death.

Are you?

oldwiseguy said:

Those foolish Hebrews. They could have won more battles if they had only
'transcended' the spears and swords of their time and grabbed an M-60.

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The Bible was apparently inspired by God, but contains no instructions for vaccine production or how to purify water. Actually, barely helps people improve their situation at all except for teaching them to properly worship their deity

Lion Hearted Man said:

The Bible was apparently inspired by God, but contains no instructions for vaccine production or how to purify water. Actually, barely helps people improve their situation at all except for teaching them to properly worship their deity

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Well, it does show the way toward eternal life, which imo trumps vaccines and pure water.

dysert said:

Well, it does show the way toward eternal life, which imo trumps vaccines and pure water.

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That's the claim, but we have no evidence whatsoever that such a thing exists.

dysert said:

Well, it does show the way toward eternal life, which imo trumps vaccines and pure water.

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How do you really know, though? The afterlife is unknowable.

I'd be far more impressed with the Bible if it had something to strengthen its validity in the world we currently live in. An outline of the germ theory of disease + the instructions on how to make a smallpox vaccine would have been great. Or some sort of prediction/prophecy that could actually be verified externally (and no, New Testament authors with a copy of the Old Testament on hand as they pen their scriptures does not count; I'm thinking more like "this won't make sense until you invent TV, but Arrested Development will be the funniest show you guys ever make.")

This is getting too General Apologetics-y, so we better end this discussion soon.

What does this thread have to do with science?

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oldwiseguy said:

Many of the OT laws were intended to improve the quality of physical and material life, and would today if followed. For example the commandment not to 'murder' would prevent murders, if obeyed. This would certainly improve our 'situation'. (Oops, I meant )

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There are laws against murder in this country, buddy.