Is evolution a theory?
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So you are admitting evolution just another creation story, the creation created itself? Do you admit you are accepting the "little eyeball that could" story by faith?
Let's use Darwin requirement to disprove his theory , that is you must show it's not possible for something to evolve. (must prove a negative) Can you prove to me it's not possible for a snake's ancestor (with legs) to talk. Since a bird can talk then using your imagination you can see a snakes in the past could talk.They learned it from the talking snake.
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The talking snake was satan and it was a one time event never to be repeated. If snakes are talking to you today then you had a little too much to drink.
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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest!Would we be more or less convincing if we told you a talking snake told us?
How do we know Satan didn't appear to Jesus as a "nacash/serpent"?
Mark 1:13 And He was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted by Satan, and was with the wild beasts;
and the angels ministered to Him.
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Where did I admit that? What I am saying is that the fundamental aspect of creationism is a story found in a religious text. It is story telling, from start to finish.
Again, this is nothing more than storytelling. When you want to discuss EVIDENCE please let me know.
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You mean elephants having smaller tusk because man is killing the ones with bigger tusks. There are many examples of man screwing up the balance of nature. This seem to be more of an example of artificial selection than natural selection as with wolves becoming dogs.
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Selection, whether caused by man or otherwise, is a factor in evolution.
Long before Darwin, it was known that man could change the characteristics of plants and animals by culling/selection. What Darwin showed, via Malthus, was that the environment, unreasoning as it is, could also cull the species, producing change.
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If evolution is true, then nature is never in balance. Predators will continue to evolve new adaptations to increase their success rate. Prey will continue to evolve new adaptations that make it harder for predator's to eat them.
Also, humans are as much a part of nature as any other species.
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Nobody is arguing that science isn't real. In fact, the greatest scientists in history have been Christians who affirmed the Biblical view of the nature of the Universe.
Hey, Mr. Science-is-real! That's not evolution. That's adaptation as the result of tusked elephants being removed from the breeding pool through poaching.
Evolution is always the addition of information into the genetic code of the species, not the subtraction of information.
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Selection of one trait over another due environmental conditions is evolution. That is exactly what Darwin described in Origin of Species.
The way in which creationists define information, evolution actually requires a subtraction of information. Creationists define any change in DNA sequence as a subtraction of information.
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And evolution is part of science.
As long as "having a tusk" is a genetically controlled trait, removing tusked elephants from the breeding pool is evolution, as science defines evolution. (You seem to have your own definition, but it's the scientific one that matters when talking about science.]
That is simply wrong. What do they teach in schools these days?
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Which is the same as evolution.
"In fact, evolution can be precisely defined as any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next." - Helena Curtis and N. Sue Barnes, Biology, 5th ed. 1989 Worth Publishers, p.974
With these elephants, we see a change in the frequency of tusk alleles within the elephant gene pool from one generation to the next.
Yep.
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Right. And adaptation of organisms to their environment is precisely what Darwinian evolution was intended to explain.
Frequently, yes, as when it is claimed that all mutations reduce information. Creationist definitions of information tend not to be consistent, however.
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Not lately.
Not since the religious folks stopped torturing and killing those who disagree with them.
Removing tusked elephants from the breeding pool, results in the change of allele frequency in the species genome. That is the definition of evolution.
In information theory, information is quantified as the level of uncertainty.
1) I state "'A' is true, OR 'B' is true, OR 'C' is true". Three possibilities, two degrees of freedom.
2) I state "'A' is true, OR 'B' is true". Two possibilities, one degree of freedom.
3) I state "'A" is true". One possibiity, zero degrees of freedom.
Note that statement 3 carries more information than statement 2, which in turn carries more information than statement one.
It may be adaptation, but it is adaptation by evolution.
Now an animal might adapt by by migrating to follow seasonal changes in food supply. This may or may not involve a change in the gene pool. If it doesn't, it is adaptation without evolution.
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Removing an allele from the gene pool, increases information because it decreases uncertainty. Adding an allele to the gene pool, increases uncertainty and so decreases information. But whether you add or subract an allele from the gene pool, and whether this results in an adaptive, maladaptive, neutral, or no change in phenotype, it is evolution.Publius said:
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