Muslims stone Christians in Dearborn police harass Christians

createdtoworship

In the grip of grace
Mar 13, 2004
18,941
1,758
West Coast USA
✟33,173.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
But that isn't what happened. One guy claims to have been hit in the head by a concrete chip, not a "block". The evangelists did get pelted with trash, though.

So you appreciate the good work the ACLU does?

One guy reported one rock. That could have been serious, but he seemed uninjured, thankfully. Yes, that kid should have been arrested, but first he would have to be identified and caught. You can't charge the whole people for the act of an individual.

you obviously didn't see the video, there was blood on his forehead. And you could hear the team saying "ouch ouch, OUCH!"

Does that sound like trash?
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,319
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,512.00
Country
United States
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
you obviously didn't see the video, there was blood on his forehead. And you could hear the team saying "ouch ouch, OUCH!"

Does that sound like trash?

Sounds like a bunch of crybabies to me.
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,319
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,512.00
Country
United States
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
thats what nero said as he persecuted the christians and fed them to the lions.

You were there? Or are you just looking to make martyrs out of these idiots?
 
Upvote 0

createdtoworship

In the grip of grace
Mar 13, 2004
18,941
1,758
West Coast USA
✟33,173.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
You were there? Or are you just looking to make martyrs out of these idiots?

nero lit christians on fire and said "how does it feel to be the light of the world now?"

true story.

I can only imagine what tortures we would go through if we were not in america and doing what ruben israel does.
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,319
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,512.00
Country
United States
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
nero lit christians on fire and said "how does it feel to be the light of the world now?"

true story.

Funny thing -- Christians always seem more nostalgic about those kind of stories than the most rabid Atheist. Why is that?

I can only imagine what tortures we would go through if we were not in america and doing what ruben israel does.


You can only imagine because you want to imagine -- Is American Christianity so short of heroes that you need to manufacture them out of these bozos?

Or is it something deeper? Is it because Christianity has its origins as the underdogs, and now that you guys are in charge, you simply don't know what to do with yourselves? You hear stories about persecution back in the old days, and, thinking that's what you're supposed to be doing, go looking for it?

Why else would anyone honestly bring a pig's head to a mosque except to pick a fight? And who else but Christians would pick a religious fight in order to lose it?
 
Upvote 0

Supreme

British
Jul 30, 2009
11,890
490
London
✟22,685.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Single
nero lit christians on fire and said "how does it feel to be the light of the world now?"

true story.

I can only imagine what tortures we would go through if we were not in america and doing what ruben israel does.

True, no one would doubt the horrific rule of Nero and its impact on Christians. Let's just be thankful to the Lord that we are no longer facing such persecutions and are free to be saved by Jesus without fear of persecution.
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,319
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,512.00
Country
United States
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
True, no one would doubt the horrific rule of Nero and its impact on Christians. Let's just be thankful to the Lord that we are no longer facing such persecutions and are free to be saved by Jesus without fear of persecution.

So why is it that too many Christians not only don't fear persecution, but they welcome it, seek it out, and if necessary, manufacture it?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Kelly

Dungeon Master
Mar 20, 2003
7,032
419
55
USA
Visit site
✟24,334.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
How about they get a booth at the festival and hand out free bottled water? Be available for conversation about Jesus but don't have condemning signs or insulting pig heads? Christ presented his message for those who had ears and wished to hear.

Did anyone here who wasn't born into a Christian life convert because someone's crappy sign told them they were going to hell or handed them a tract about how wrong they are living? Probably no.

Live a great life as an example of what to be. Be honest, friendly, real and actually helpful to people. They will want to know WHY you are like that in this world where everyone's out for their own interests. Feed the needy, visit people in prison, help people out - all without wanting fame, praise or reward.
 
Upvote 0

ranunculus

Well-Known Member
Aug 21, 2008
898
575
✟270,430.00
Country
Luxembourg
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
So why is it that too many Christians not only don't fear persecution, but they welcome it, seek it out, and if necessary, manufacture it?

Matthew 5:11-12

11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
 
Upvote 0

Supreme

British
Jul 30, 2009
11,890
490
London
✟22,685.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Single
So why is it that too many Christians not only don't fear persecution, but they welcome it, seek it out, and if necessary, manufacture it?

Most Christians have never (and thankfully, will never) experience persecution, so I guess some automatically think anything that doesn't go their way to be persecution. It is insulting to the millions of Christians in Egypt, Pakistan or North Korea that do face persecution.
 
Upvote 0

createdtoworship

In the grip of grace
Mar 13, 2004
18,941
1,758
West Coast USA
✟33,173.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
How about they get a booth at the festival and hand out free bottled water? Be available for conversation about Jesus but don't have condemning signs or insulting pig heads? Christ presented his message for those who had ears and wished to hear.

Did anyone here who wasn't born into a Christian life convert because someone's crappy sign told them they were going to hell or handed them a tract about how wrong they are living? Probably no.

Live a great life as an example of what to be. Be honest, friendly, real and actually helpful to people. They will want to know WHY you are like that in this world where everyone's out for their own interests. Feed the needy, visit people in prison, help people out - all without wanting fame, praise or reward.

water bottles were what was throne at them (as well as various pieces of trash, and concrete chunks to boot!)

just saying, do you really want to arm the other side?
 
Upvote 0

createdtoworship

In the grip of grace
Mar 13, 2004
18,941
1,758
West Coast USA
✟33,173.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
True, no one would doubt the horrific rule of Nero and its impact on Christians. Let's just be thankful to the Lord that we are no longer facing such persecutions and are free to be saved by Jesus without fear of persecution.

:amen:

very thankful
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

createdtoworship

In the grip of grace
Mar 13, 2004
18,941
1,758
West Coast USA
✟33,173.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
And who else but Christians would pick a religious fight in order to lose it?

I actually agree with you here, Christians know that the last is the first and the first is the last. It's called humility.
 
Upvote 0

createdtoworship

In the grip of grace
Mar 13, 2004
18,941
1,758
West Coast USA
✟33,173.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Citation needed.

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

heard it on the radio, sorry to disapoint. But just look up nero,and you will see He fed Christians to lions, and burned them, and crucifed them (I think as well)
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,319
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,512.00
Country
United States
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
water bottles were what was throne at them (as well as various pieces of trash, and concrete chunks to boot!)

just saying, do you really want to arm the other side?

Well, as long as you're thinking in terms of "our side" and "the other side," can you honestly act surprised when such "evangelism" attempts fail miserably?

Treat people like the enemy and don't act shocked when they act like it.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,319
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,512.00
Country
United States
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
I actually agree with you here, Christians know that the last is the first and the first is the last. It's called humility.

Picking a fight in order to play the victim card is not called humility.

It's called many things, most of which I cannot repeat without getting an infraction, but humility is not one of them.
 
Upvote 0