I don't FEEL it to be mandatory. Maybe it is, but it doesn't feel heavy handed or anything. ROCOR priests do extend economia when it is warranted pastorally.
M.
Cradles are typically those raised Orthodox and baptized Orthodox as babies.
The application of economia (Oikonomia) is generally regarded as being a more flexible application or interpretation of the Canons. Pastoral Discretion is of key importance to its application.
Thanks for your post. It helps clarify certain issues I was wondering about.
Dare I ask if what is termed 'White Russian' is a spin off of the ROCOR or is it the same?
I've heard ROCOR referred to as "white" and OCA referred to as "red." That was from a Russian immigrant who told me that as one who grew up in soviet Russia she would naturally go to a red church rather than a white one. She did not mean red pejoratively at all. On the contrary, she asserted that red churches endured persecution and were considered the church of the catacombs.
M.
I mean music. Beliefs are all the same.Can you expound on your reasoning? You mean Byzantine / Greek in just style or belief? Thanks.
"Orthodox Church of Russia". "Moscow Patriarchate". I don't know of any flow charts.This I gathered. What's the actual name of the Russian Church? This I can't remember. Is there a flow chart of this organizational structure from a historical perspective? ...or where would I find such information?
No, the OCA is autocephalous - that means they're completely independent. ROCOR is now under the Russian Church (as of 2007)- it is a part of the Russian Church.Thanks, this is helpful. So OCA is basically considered part of the original church (Russian Church) now while ROCOR still is adrift a fair bit?
Style of service. Not beliefs.Thanks, this is helpful. So there is just a difference in style of service etc. or in beliefs as well?
The Greeks in Canada are in the same hierarchy as the Americans. The Russian one could be either OCA, ROCOR, or directly under Moscow (MP), just like in the USA. The A in OCA is for all the Americas, not just the USA. ROCOR is completely international. The MP has a handful of churches everywhere. In Canada, there are also some Ukrainians - they're their own thing.So considering all of this, where would a Canadian Greek Orthodox Church and a Canadian Russo Orthodox church fit in to all of this? ...and would they both be part of the OAC or what other information would determine this?
the greeks, oca, antiochians, ukrainians, ect (basically non rocor) dont need to wear headscarves or skirts that go below the knee. i know greek churches where some of the girls wear tank tops in the summer.You cannot receive communion without a head scarf in either OCA and ROCOR or just in ROCOR?
I see. Interesting. Thanks Here a 'White Russian' will almost always be seen in a dress / skirt and head covering. I'm not sure how their church fits in with Orthodoxy though. I do know there are differences. Idk?
The Greeks in Canada are in the same hierarchy as the Americans. The Russian one could be either OCA, ROCOR, or directly under Moscow (MP), just like in the USA. The A in OCA is for all the Americas, not just the USA. ROCOR is completely international. The MP has a handful of churches everywhere. In Canada, there are also some Ukrainians - they're their own thing.
ROCOR is not adrift in any way.
M.
I'd wager that someone who said they were "white" with regard to orthodoxy would be ROCOR also known as Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (ROCA).
M.
amen. in any way, shape, or form.
Don't you know? We Greeks and the GOC are too liberal and laid back with our pews and no headscarves and other practices. I wish I were actually joking, but this has been said before that I've heard IRL. That's all I'll say.Can you expound on your reasoning? You mean Byzantine / Greek in just style or belief? Thanks.
Don't you know? We Greeks and the GOC are too liberal and laid back with our pews and no headscarves and other practices. I wish I were actually joking, but this has been said before that I've heard IRL. That's all I'll say.
No. I was never taught to. And cobweb is right on why Greeks don't feel comfortable wearing them. I'll give you an example. My priest told me to bring a headscarf in case I needed to wear one at one of the monasteries I visited in Greece. I brought it and put it on at one at Meteora. My mom got a bit uptight and said "Take that off! Everyone is going to think you're a Muslim!" True story.Do you wear a headscarf, Dot?
No. I was never taught to. And cobweb is right on why Greeks don't feel comfortable wearing them. I'll give you an example. My priest told me to bring a headscarf in case I needed to wear one at one of the monasteries I visited in Greece. I brought it and put it on at one at Meteora. My mom got a bit uptight and said "Take that off! Everyone is going to think you're a Muslim!" True story.