What Day was Lucifer created?

squint · Jun 18, 2012

mog144 said:
Size it up, if all things that were Created were Created in the seven days of Creation then Lucifer who is a cherubim angel must have been made when all of the other angels were made, which day was that?

BTW, Venus is a celestial planet, the names were twisted just as you can find ties between Lucifer and Jesus, yes, people have even created such progaganda stating that Lucifer is the Mighty Angel Michael and all sorts of myths.

And, Lucifer didn't always exist as GOD has, Lucifer is NOT Alpha and Omega, nor is Satan any of these. The serpent is a creature just like all angels and only masquerades as a man in human agents, spiritually. If you say that Lucifer always existed you then claim that he is also a god, you are his cohort. The devil DID NOT always exist as GOD has existed, the devil is temporal just like humans are and he will perish, GOD CANNOT perish, He is Imperishable and ETERNAL!!!

With this said... Guess again!

All the 'sons of God' were on the 4th day of creation. Star creation day.

Job 38:
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Genesis 1:
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The sons were there, shouting of His Creation Life on star creation day.

Lucifer, the 'covering cherub' of the 'stones' creation preceded them, when light was separated from darkness.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Ezek. 28:
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

A perfect devil by any measure, a devil.

s

rockytopva · Jun 18, 2012

My timeline....

Eternity....

Lucifer was created in some place in eternity... Which I don't know. As the age of the universe is estimated at around 14 billion that would be the time in which he rebelled in heaven.

14 billion years ago... I believe that God said "Let there be light" and with his energy came the big boom (as m = E/c2). He, being a patient God, allowed the cosmos to spread in which at its appointed time he began to create Earth...

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis 1: 4-5

...14 billion years later...

The time in which the Earth was destined to stand seven thousand years began with the first day statement in Genesis 1:5...

mog144 · Jun 18, 2012

squint said:
All the 'sons of God' were on the 4th day of creation. Star creation day.

Job 38:
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Genesis 1:
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The sons were there, shouting of His Creation Life on star creation day.

Lucifer, the 'covering cherub' of the 'stones' creation preceded them, when light was separated from darkness.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Ezek. 28:
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

A perfect devil by any measure, a devil.

s

A lot to address here but I won't until you get your days right. After those stars that were created, you claim the 4th day, if you note that the evening comes first after the creation, then the morning comes after the evening. This day being mentioned by evening and morning point to the day after the 3rd day ended. The evening marks the START of the next day according to God. Day 3 points to the cosmos, you left out verse 13 that marks the start of the 3rd day, Why?

EDIT: I ask your pardon, I stand corrected on this and shouldn't have questioned. I am sorting this math out as it's very new to me, therefore I will also encounter attacks from satan, he's trembling as I type this.

I am still sorting out the pattern and rules for the characters, days and numbers in this algorithm and I can use some help from you brilliant men here.

squint · Jun 18, 2012

mog144 said:
A lot to address here but I won't until you get your days right. After those stars that were created, you claim the 4th day, if you note that the evening comes first after the creation, then the morning comes after the evening. This day being mentioned by evening and morning point to the day after the 3rd day ended. The evening marks the START of the next day according to God. Day 3 points to the cosmos, you left out verse 13 that marks the start of the 3rd day, Why?

Referred to matters of light and dark on day 1 separation.

I am certainly willing to see the evil seed (after it's kind) on day 3 as well if it suits your math. Perhaps even good seed as well.

Depends on what you want to see therein. There is spiritual matter in every Word. Sea and land also contain same on day 2. The serpent inhabits the sea. Dry ground represents solid understandings and the 'saint sand' that holds same.

It's an intricate fabric.

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God,

s

mog144 · Jun 18, 2012

Squint, the math that I present was given me in recent visions starting last February 1st. I'm a man who received a dream 5 years ago and hundreds, maybe thousands of visions since and now I have this algorithm that defines the Creation Record and other numbers and current dates. It opens the mystery of Daniel with a parallel to the last Jubilee, the Golden Shofar and the prophecies in Revelation. It's too vast to mention briefly and to have any persuasion without investigation.

I've tried and tested the numbers and they can only work in one possible combination, or algorithm, if you please. There is still much to learn from this math, I sincerely believe that it's the lost Genesis Code because the Apostle John and other prophets write about numbers that correspond with this algorithm. It "Rightly DIVIDES the Word"

It isn't going to agree with the majority of this current world order but it will soon be quite attractive after the plagues begin to press hard and people find themselves in a broken country.

The truth is being suppressed and you must watch News that you won't hear on our national networks. I'm repeating what I heard on the News. America is too busy watching a game or cooking show. Don't look now but we are about to suffer a nuclear strike. History and Prophecy repeats, we are repeating the Pearl Harbor incident, this time "Nukes"

squint · Jun 18, 2012

mog144 said:
Squint, the math that I present was given me in recent visions starting last February 1st. I'm a man who received a dream 5 years ago and hundreds, maybe thousands of visions since and now I have this algorithm that defines the Creation Record and other numbers and current dates. It opens the mystery of Daniel with a parallel to the last Jubilee, the Golden Shofar and the prophecies in Revelation. It's too vast to mention briefly and to have any persuasion without investigation.

I've tried and tested the numbers and they can only work in one possible combination, or algorithm, if you please. There is still much to learn from this math, I sincerely believe that it's the lost Genesis Code because the Apostle John and other prophets write about numbers that correspond with this algorithm. It "Rightly DIVIDES the Word"

Yes, I've been reading your posts. I listen and weigh all matters. You won't find me beating you over the head. There are a couple posters right here in this thread that do a mighty fine job of rightly dividing in my eyes already.

I am cautious on the numerology angles myself. But I am, like you perhaps, a bit of an aficionado for extra biblical as there is some good writings available there as well.

You have to sort through the good and the bad.

It isn't going to agree with the majority of this current world order but it will soon be quite attractive after the plagues begin to press hard and people find themselves in a broken country.

If one has a firm grip on allegorical patterns, they will see God QUITE active in our present environment in many ways and showings.

The truth is being suppressed and you must watch News that you won't hear on our national networks. I'm repeating what I heard on the News. America is too busy watching a game or cooking show. Don't look now but we are about to suffer a nuclear strike. History and Prophecy repeats, we are repeating the Pearl Harbor incident, this time "Nukes"

I don't discount anything being possible in todays world.

But some will also see, like you do as well, that the knowledge of the Lord will fill and flood the earth.

Noah himself was a picture of comfort in his workings. Some fear the 'like Noah' statement from Jesus. Some will take LIGHT of HOPE from that same statement.

End times are not always fatally slanted in some eyes, except to certain unseen parties, and even with some tears along the separation trails.

They will be turned to JOY. I know.

s

x141 · Jun 19, 2012

The knowledge only fills when the waters cover the sea ... the whole earth is filled with his glory, it always has been.

The giants are between our ears and the way to defeat them or end this war in heaven in each one of us is to follow the pattern, the way back to where our soul has been anchored, a glory before the world was. Everything else is as the serpent said, if you eat this you will become like this, by taking thought, a cubit to your stature, the other gospel that is not another.

For #'s sake it's interesting to note that the bibical year times six days is 144 days and times the amount of time the first born was in bondage in Egypt is 144,000. Numbers are a picture of things and these things are all summed up in one, Father.

In these things as in all things our eye must remain single.

Isa_6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

squint · Jun 19, 2012

x141 said:
The knowledge only fills when the waters cover the sea ... the whole earth is filled with his glory, it always has been.

The giants are between our ears and the way to defeat them or end this war in heaven in each one of us is to follow the pattern, the way back to where our soul has been anchored, a glory before the world was. Everything else is as the serpent said, if you eat this you will become like this, by taking thought, a cubit to your stature, the other gospel that is not another.

x141 · Jun 19, 2012

The God who created the heavens and the earth (and I am no wise pinning this to this one thing, if I did it would become a lie) is not our Father but the knowledge of our Father who was before. The lamb was slain from or because of the foundation of the earth. It is a dualitiy, a heavenly and an earthly. This God is one who builds his habitation with hands. Like a potter does a vessel. This is not the truth, our Father does not dwell in buildings made with hands, just as all who came before Jesus were robbers and thieves. This is why Israel set up their camp in the form of a cross and the tabernacle of Moses (picture of the son) was in the middle or in the midst.

Joh_10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

The Son is the true knowledge of God and he is this in each one of us.

Adam is the cherub that covers, and is the truth cast down of which the advreasry tired to tempt Jesus to do. He is the image on the pole, the covering of the woman just like this is the covering of Moses' tabernalce, ram and badger skins died red which is the word Adam.

The Bible is only a weeks worth, so to speak. Jesus new he was the eighth son of Jesse and that he was the fulfillment of all the hidden knowledge in the scripture that people so diligently looked for this eternal life in. This treasure has always been in the field or in an earhten vessel. The Son is the only one who reveals this just as the Father was the only one that revealed it in the Son.

prodigal brother · Jun 19, 2012

APRIL 1st

x141 · Jun 19, 2012

squint said:

I knew you would like that ...

squint · Jun 19, 2012

x141 said:
I knew you would like that ...

Yeah, I use it often myself...

The Word is not hard to 'rightly' divide once the Word of the Parable is 'eaten' personally.

It's always a delight to me when I see that I'm not the only one who was 'led' into it.

s

mog144 · Jun 19, 2012

squint said:
Referred to matters of light and dark on day 1 separation.

I am certainly willing to see the evil seed (after it's kind) on day 3 as well if it suits your math. Perhaps even good seed as well.

Depends on what you want to see therein. There is spiritual matter in every Word. Sea and land also contain same on day 2. The serpent inhabits the sea. Dry ground represents solid understandings and the 'saint sand' that holds same.

It's an intricate fabric.

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God,

s

Yes, squint, you're correct, my bad. My mind has been over worked lately, I push myself too hard when I find new discoveries and I need to slow down and listen more to Him. This flesh can be a thorn in the spirit if we become careless. I seek others willing to investigate this Algebraic formula.

Though the 3rd day is nature, I still see a possibility for satan to reanimate nature into forming the marijuana species, perhaps? and other plants that is used for drug making, or he gives man the knowledge of alchemy to make these drugs, this is all witchcraft when man mixes God's natural elements because every element has spirit in it, it's identified by DNA code that listens to "phi" codes that comes into our minds by hearing. satan has occults worshiping him through nature; I only speculate before knowing further details about this algorithm and just how far it will take us in knowledge and understanding.

Faith comes by hearing... listening to DNA algorithm that we have in music, TV and you know the rest.

OR, we can have the faith of Jesus if we listen to the Truth in the Correct, Righteous and Divine Proportional Code that forms His Spirit within us and it becomes physically manifested as well.

Here is wisdom; We Americans have been fed "American phi" since 1848. The space of time from 1776 to 1848 is 72 years, do the math... this is the "Lamb-like Beast."

I believe that we have evolved but not from apes, it's actually contrary in order, and we were NOT Created into the image or likeness of what we humans are today. I know that God doesn't want us to even gaze upon the face because it's vanity in flesh, we must be spiritual and above the flesh, just as the Men of God if we are Men of God, indeed!

Paul speaks of a divine knowledge in Romans ch 1, very interesting but there's far greater corresponding evidence that I found in the Gnostic Gospels of John, Enoch & Thomas. I have yet so much to read and research, it's a lifelong experience when living for His Will.

Rom 10:17

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
KJV

Revelation says that there is WISDOM in the image of 666 for him who understands and calculates by counting the number of this beast. This image identifies who the real beast is that is holding God's people in captivity in the "last-day".

This algorithm defines numbers such as (72), this number is seen as (72° degrees) five times in a certain shape, this image of (72°) divided by satan's number-(5) equals the image of (14.4) where the decimal is irrelevant in algebraic images, therefore this image is (144). Knowing that this image of (144) represents the 144,000 elect rulers of God and this angle of 72° belongs to a certain shape used by satan, it must therefore be a counterfeit image.

This counterfeit image would then represent a group of corrupted lawmakers in our natural world. Remember that we live in a spiritual age now and all battles are spiritual and this is how we can see into the supernatural world and see how our behavior affects our spiritual score there, and we can then see how it affects us in return. This is the theory of "What goes around comes around" and we can know all if we use our minds that Yahweh has given us men (males).

I've only scratched the surface and have a very limited education. I never knew what algebra was until receiving these visions on how to calculate 666, just last February. Oh my Lord in Heaven, have a little more patience with me, please! :prayer:

Rev 13:18

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
KJV

We are the pioneers in this re-discovery of the Genesis Code. I know that it is, just have to learn how to use it to it's full potential because it exposes conspiracy. Look at dates, 1776 is not a pretty picture if you can calculate this image, using the same template as used in decoding numbers 0 to 9, 666, 777, 2015 and a bunch of others. There is too much for one man to research in the short time that we have left to prepare. :bow:

Got any ideas? :idea:

squint · Jun 19, 2012

mog144 said:
Got any ideas?

Yes, eat His Bread Word of the parable in Mark 4:15 personally.

The Word will instantly DIVIDE RIGHTLY when this meal is fed internally.

But only God In Truth can serve any man that meal.

Any who 'hear' a voice in their head that says 'this does not happen to me because I am a believer' has pinpointed the location of the enemy. But they may not perceive it as such.

enjoy!

squint

mog144 · Jun 19, 2012

squint said:
Yes, I've been reading your posts...

I am cautious on the numerology angles myself. But I am, like you perhaps, a bit of an aficionado for extra biblical as there is some good writings available there as well.

You have to sort through the good and the bad.

If one has a firm grip on allegorical patterns, they will see God QUITE active in our present environment in many ways and showings.

I don't discount anything being possible in todays world.

But some will also see, like you do as well, that the knowledge of the Lord will fill and flood the earth.

Noah himself was a picture of comfort in his workings. Some fear the 'like Noah' statement from Jesus. Some will take LIGHT of HOPE from that same statement.

End times are not always fatally slanted in some eyes, except to certain unseen parties, and even with some tears along the separation trails.

They will be turned to JOY. I know.

s

You speak profoundly, alike mine. I haven't had opportunity for discussing this much with anyone. I've actually lost my latest (4th) wife and my children, most of my friends. We were told that the world would hate us and He comes to bring division even among family members.

I find that the nineteenth century commentaries, specifically after liberation of women, they steer us from what was once practiced as Truth but these precious Gospels have been omitted from the Bible in whole and kept from us so that the New World Order lifestyle change would evolve us into creatures that oppose the image and likeness of Father.

I believe that we must be careful not to be persuaded by false interpretations, and allow God to put His spirit-code in us, we then become blessed and will receive even greater wisdom and understanding as we think for ourselves as Men of God, using the divine intelligence that we can possess. Let This mind be in you that which is also in Jesus.

I was led to the Gnostic Gospels after receiving the visions. I have not ventured this realm ever before last February. How much could I have learned since then if this was from my own uneducated fleshy mind? It's impossible! The flesh is not capable, therefore it must be spirit and the spirit checks out to be Righteous and True because it vindicates the Word and exposes wicked agendas.

Thanks for being here, to all who agree. :groupray:

squint · Jun 19, 2012

mog144 said:
You speak profoundly, alike mine. I haven't had opportunity for discussing this much with anyone. I've actually lost my latest (4th) wife and my children, most of my friends. We were told that the world would hate us and He comes to bring division even among family members.

Any believer who knows the parable personally will also be shown that not only family members, but every man will hate them.

It is not a hatred of people that we see with our eyes.

I was led to the Gnostic Gospels after receiving the visions. I have not ventured this realm ever before last February. How much could I have learned since then if this was from my own uneducated fleshy mind? It's impossible! The flesh is not capable, therefore it must be spirit and the spirit checks out to be Righteous and True because it vindicates the Word and exposes wicked agendas.

Thanks for being here, to all who agree.

A believer should tread the sight of his own visions cautiously.

The Fixed Plumb Line has already been set. Any vision must align PERFECTLY to what we already have 'in the Way.'

His Word and Spirit is That Way. The Only Way.

If any matter does not line up, it must be immediately discarded or one will go quickly into subjective internal captivity.

s

x141 · Jun 19, 2012

People unknowingly crucify him/truth in themselves everyday, it all happens in the garden/soul or holy place.

The language of God is made up of the word/son of God and each of us are this language, both that which is present, that which is past and that which is to come, so to speak. we arer all of one. All pictures of Truth that can not be contained.

There is a pattern laid out in the OT, that was buried, that found it's fulfillment in Jesus. What was hid had become manifested. It's not an odd thing that the Seed of Abraham was in bondage for 400 years (a picture of something) as it is not a strange thing that there was 400 years between Malchi and Mathew.

Consider in picture that Joseph was the seed that drew Jacob, his wife and his children (Sun, Moon & Stars) into Egypt and caused them to bow down to an image. Another picture of the calling out, of light out of darkness or a son/first born out of Eygpt.

This could be the thread that has no end as long as our eye stays single. The one who has the keys and is himself that key to this mystery has always been the Son/Christ in us.
It is not a strange thing that solomon's temple was rejected ...

squint · Jun 19, 2012

x141 said:
People unknowingly crucify him/truth in themselves everyday, it all happens in the garden/soul or holy place.

The language of God is made up of the word/son of God and each of us are this language, both that which is present, that which is past and that which is to come, so to speak. we arer all of one. All pictures of Truth that can not be contained.

There is a pattern laid out in the OT, that was buried, that found it's fulfillment in Jesus. What was hid had become manifested. It's not an odd thing that the Seed of Abraham was in bondage for 400 years (a picture of something) as it is not a strange thing that there was 400 years between Malchi and Mathew.

Consider in picture that Joseph was the seed that drew Jacob, his wife and his children (Sun, Moon & Stars) into Egypt and caused them to bow down to an image. Another picture of the calling out, of light out of darkness or a son/first born out of Eygpt.

This could be the thread that has no end as long as our eye stays single. The one who has the keys and is himself that key to this mystery has always been the Son/Christ in us.
It is not a strange thing that solomon's temple was rejected ...

Adam had two sons.

Abraham had two sons.

Isaac had two sons.

Jacob had two sons (of the ensnarer wife)

Joseph had two sons.

Moses had two sons.

These are all pictures of Mark 4:15, the elder son represented by that 'elder' who enters the heart, who is represented and physically depicted by WORD ASSOCIATIONS/the understandings of HEBRON (associations,) in each of the elder sons as in error and rejections. God gave us pictures of rejection. And also pictures of the formation of Sons in Truth.

In each case above, it was the youngest son who was chosen and blessed of God. It was not that God hated the elder. They gave their lives AS PICTURES for us.

This matter is shown in many ways in the Old Testament.

It was not the man of the flesh that God hated. But what that represents. Joseph for example only sought out for his younger brother. The 'son of the right hand.' Knowing that one for what is shown. Joseph BOUND SIMEON (hearing) in EGYPT in order to receive Benjamin.

Jacob 'wrestled' with these same matters and became ISRAEL, in Whom God Prevails.

All of these matters Paul was shown in the Way and in the ORDER of God in 1 Cor. 15. First the natural. Then the Spiritual.

The Old Testament is our natural showing. And natural eyes continue to read it naturally. Burrowed away therein though are other matters.

Through the REVEALING of God in Christ, new matters arise. Matters Spiritual. These can seem strange to any hearer. I hold no harm to any believer in what I see and perceive. And every harm to the adversary.

We can see the MERCY of Gods Intentions in binding all to disobedience, that His Mercy would be a first hand known experience to each of us. We partake of judgments, divide from darkness in forgiveness, mercy, faith, hope, GRACE and love from our understandings.

His Life flows through such and all a preamble of...the showing of the coming of Him into our temple Spiritually.

It is only a matter of how much life and glory we can stand to take in.

For those upon whom God has cast His Invisible Eyes, the Glory does cause us to LOOK AWAY from the splendor of Him that overwhelms.

Strange as it may presently seem to others. It remains a riddle for some to be resolved, within. There are deep waters to jump into. Waters of LIFE.

God blesses the thirsty ground of ZION. That dry and parched ground that THIRSTS FOR HIS LIFE.

s

x141 · Jun 19, 2012

squint said:
Any believer who knows the parable personally will also be shown that not only family members, but every man will hate them.

It is not a hatred of people that we see with our eyes.

A believer should tread the sight of his own visions cautiously.

The Fixed Plumb Line has already been set. Any vision must align PERFECTLY to what we already have 'in the Way.'

His Word and Spirit is That Way. The Only Way.

If any matter does not line up, it must be immediately discarded or one will go quickly into subjective internal captivity.

s

I have found that the woman should keep silent in the church, not suffered to speak or to teach. Nothing to do with girls.

We eat of any tree of the garden freely but our own tree yeilds it's fruit to us if we do not eat. A soul poured out.

The scope of this, the woman and her son is overwhelming. Seven to me is the time of separation of the woman's perception set up in three's, her son to her is unclean and everything she touches or sits on is unclean. When the flesh on the eighth day is removed from her son she becomes clean, which is due to the perception of her son, but she contiunes in the blood of her separation.

squint · Jun 19, 2012

x141 said:
I have found that the woman should keep silent in the church, not suffered to speak or to teach. Nothing to do with girls.

And ditto that my friend. The woman of the church ALWAYS keeps silent before our Husband! Even with our head COVERED.

We eat of any tree of the garden freely but our own tree yeilds it's fruit to us if we do not eat. A soul poured out.

The scope of this, the woman and her son is overwhelming. Seven to me is the time of separation of the woman's perception set up in three's, her son to her is unclean and everything she touches or sits on is unclean. When the flesh on the eighth day is removed from her son she becomes clean, which is due to the perception of her son, but she contiunes in the blood of her separation.

The birth process indeed. Many spiritual matters therein.

The First Son has broken the womb of mankind, Jesus, The Only Begotten. We see the command of Holy set aside for the first breaking the womb in the O.T. The males were the Lords as is everything that breaks the womb, HIS.

Exodus 34:19
All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.

This matter may bring some dispute, but when Jesus taught Nicodemus he questioned the knowing of Nicodemus, being an elder in Israel, and not knowing that 'all' Israel are Gods children. They are born of water through the birth canal and of blood and are HIS. God Himself gave them of His Spirit the breath of LIFE.

This was an 'eartly' matter according to Jesus. That of being born again. Their life was planted here, but existed first IN HIM.

It had nothing to do with what many think or teach.

John 3:12
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

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s

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