What makes the USA a Christian nation?
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Dress it up how you will, cover it with however many platitudes or claiming to follow the "laws of Nature and of Nature's God" it still was rebelling and the Bible's not going to support it.
The Bible sure does support the American Revolution.
King George was no longer our King, he was the king of a foriegn nation. The Bible tells us not to place foriegners as kings above us. The Bible also tells us that the Earth is not to be united under a single empire, but is to be divided into nations.
Jesus told us that good shepards care for their sheep. The men of the Continental Congress were acting as good shepards for the American people by protecting them from an oppressive foriegn nation. The Founders laid down their lives for the American people, and Jesus told us that is what good shepards do.
The American revolution was legal, because the Continental Congress was following these natural laws, and it cited this law in the Declaration of Independence.
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In order for a government's laws to be "legal", that government must believe in the legality of it's own existence. Otherwise the government is illegal, and everything it does is illegal.
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I believe that while we may have been founded as a Christian nation this is no longer the case.
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having fire power sure helps when you make a law you want obeyed.
Guns don't make the law in America. Laws in America are made legally, not criminally.
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That's the point secular law which sometimes is NOT the same law God would have is supreme in the land. It is those laws that will get you arrested and time in prison ECT.
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Which is actually quite easy if the government defines the legality of its own existence.
According to whom? Who's going to rein in an "illegal" government?
Britain tried to rein in some illegal colonies; they failed.
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I've read them both... closely.
The DoI is a nice piece of political propaganda, but has no force of law behind it. (you were the one going on about laws, weren't you?)
The Constitution, OTOH, is the Supreme law of the land, that which every government leader and soldier is sworn to protect and uphold. Now, where in there does it declare us a Christian Nation?
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I'm pretty sure America is an officially Discordian nation.
Here is Washington about to take hold of the Apple of Discord.
Here is Washington about to take hold of the Apple of Discord.
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The Constitution tells us that the United States of America became independent in the year 1776, because it was signed in the twelfth year of America's independence. This makes the Declaration of Independence constitutional.
In the first sentence, the D of I tells us that the USA derives its legal right to be independent from the "laws of Nature and of Nature's God". These laws of Nature and of Nature's God must be constitutional, because the D of I itself is constitutional. We can say with certainty that the God the Continental Congress believed in was the Christian God, because of various Christian acts of the Congress. This title "Nature's God" is consistent with the description of the Christian God in the Holy Bible.
Because the Preamble to the Constitution states that one of the primary purposes of the Constitution is to protect "the Blessings of Liberty", the US Government must believe in the God mentioned in the D of I inorder to perform its primary constitutional function.
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People can say whatever they want. Fact of the matter is nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about God giving anyone anything like the Bill of Rights. Period.
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Itself. If a government does not believe in the legality of its own existence, it will reject the rule of law if it wants to preserve itself, because the lawful thing for it to do would be to abdicate.
This would destroy the USA, because the USA's existence is dependent upon the rule of law.
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No, it really doesn't.
LOL! Nice circular reasoning:
Circular reasoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Could be, or it's not. Doesn't make any difference as far as the laws here in America are concerned.
Still flogging the "18th century verbiage is all that matters!" argument huh? You should discuss that with that new poster pennsylmark he might be convinced by your argument.
tulc(noticed penmark has been gone for a while so welcome back!)
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