A Kingdom needs a King, it also needs a people, or a Nation, it also has to have a government or "the Law"
Now YAHWEH is King, thru Abraham will come HIS people, HIS people will demand a Human King, not understanding that YAHWEH is the intended King.
According to YAHWEH's law a King must be ordained by a Priest/Prophet. This Authority would have had to somehow pass from the original King.
Saul had to be ordained by Samuel, as well as David was.
1Sa 15:1 Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
ok now YAHWEH could have just given Samuel the right to ordain Saul, but I don not see that anywhere in Scripture. Where YAHWEH gave Samuel the authority to do this. Besides that fact Saul was not YAHWEH's intention of King. YAHWEH was appeasing the people with there demand of a human King.
Personally, I'm not of the mindset that having a King was ever something the Lord was fully against.....but rather, the Spirit people were in when wanting a King. For even within the Mosaic Law, the concept of King was present since the Lord made provision for it....noting that having a king was allowed (and predicted) and the King was to fear the Lord.
Deuteronomy 17:15-17 / Deuteronomy 17
When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, Let us set a king over us like all the nations around us, 15 be sure to appoint over you the king the Lord your God chooses. He must be from among your own brothers. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not a brother Israelite. 16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, You are not to go back that way again. 17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.
18When he takes the throne of his kingdom, he is to write for himself on a scroll a copy of this law, taken from that of the priests, who are Levites.19 It is to be with him, and he is to read it all the days of his life so that he may learn to revere the Lord his God and follow carefully all the words of this law and these decrees 20 and not consider himself better than his brothers and turn from the law to the right or to the left. Then he and his descendants will reign a long time over his kingdom in Israel.
IMHO, the Lord knew Israel would one day have a king, but He wanted to give Israel that king in His own timing...one that would reflect Him and eventually be one who'd begin the work of the Messiah (King, Priest, Prophet, etc). Because Israel was demanding a king out of bad, carnal reasons, God will give them a bad, carnal king. God had a purpose in not giving Israel a king up to that point..and it was because He did not want them to put an ungodly trust in the king, instead of trusting in the Lord. However, Israel rejected this plan of God, a declaring that they do not want the Lord God to reign over them. The goal of having a king, according to the Lord in His word, was to have one who would be a steward ruling according to the Lord's desires...like one speaking in the name of their master even though they themselves have significant influence (a vassal state with people under its authority even though that state was under authority). .....much in the same way Christ came in great authority and yet was under authority (the Fathers)--with Him giving authority to His followers and noting "he who rejects you rejects Me..and the One who Sent me" (Luke 10:16).
And even with SAUL, although he turned out to be exactly what Samuel warned against, I don't see anywhere in scripture where it was FATED to go that route...as if the Lord always felt Saul wasn't a good choice. There are examples of where the Lord truly seemed grieved/regrettable about actions that He did---which many have noted were in many ways "mistakes." Genesis 6:5-7 , 1 Samuel 15:10-12 1 Samuel 15:34-35 are some of the most immediate examples----with the example of Saul being one of the greatest ones since God Himself chose Saul
The Prophet Samuel was in the transition time frame from the era of the Judges to the rise of the Monarchy.
The people wanted a king, as I Samuel 8---and though God said that the people had rejected Him in his reign over them, asking for a king was not wrong in/of itself. For God had mentioned the possibility of having a King within the Law in Deuteronomy 17:14-20. But where the people erred was in wanting a king for its own sake.....to be like the other nations and yet not have one either submitted to God's Laws or one through whom God would live out his reign. Thus, God told the people that even their king would have to obey His standards.....
When the Lord found Saul in I Samuel 9, He was a very meek man--not even considering Himself worthy as a king (I Samuel 9:21-22). He referred to himself as coming from the smallest tribe in Israel...the Benjamites...and this is significant in light of what happened in Judges 20:46-48 as well as Judges 19-21 when the tribe of Benjamin defended men who were rapists/sexually immoral and the tribe was nearly wiped out in war later on.
Later, as seen in I Samuel 10, Saul was crowned King....anointed publically---and the text makes clar that God changed his heart ( 1 Samuel 10:9 ) and instructed Him....with Saul being one who prophesied and worshipped as seen in I Samuel 10:10-13 when he was with the other prophets prophesying. It was so shocking that when Saul's friends heard inspired words coming from Saul they exclaimed, "Is Saul also among the prophets?"............for the scriptures make clear in I Samuel 10:6 that the Spirit of the Lord came upon SAUL.
With this, one must wonder how could Saul be so filled with the Spirit and yet later commit such evil acts....but throughout the OT, God's Spirit came upon a person temporarily so that God could use him or her for great acts. This happened frequently to Israel's judges when they were called by God to rescue the nation (Judges 3:8-10). This was not always a permanent, abiding influence...but sometimes a temporary manifestation of the Holy Spirit (Numbers 11:25-29, Judges 3:10, Judges 14:6, etc).
In many ways, it corresponds to the "filling" of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament..but even in times of the OT, the Spirit even came upon unbelievers to enable them to do unusual tasks (Numbers 24 with Balaam, II Chronicles 36:22-23 with Cyrus King of Persia as also seen in Isiah 44:28 and Jeremiah 25:12). Saul, in his early years as king, had "another heart" as a result of the Holy Spirit's work n Him...and the Spirit of God came upon him strongly in other instances as well-----as seen in I Samuel 11:6 when the Spirit of the Lord came upon Saul when hearing of the Ammonites' threat to humilate/mistreat fellow Israelities---with the Spirit of God leading Saul to become angry and giving the Lord the opportunity to channel anger in constructive ways to bring justice.
But later, as Saul's power grew, so did His pride. Even though he lost the Kingdom at one point, as seen in I Samuel 13:9-12, he was still King. But eventually, after a while he refused to seek God---and the Spirit left him (I Samuel 16:14)...and his good attitude melted away. That's a big issue to raise up someone/change them, ONLY to have Him rebell later on in an increasingly gradual way (1 Samuel 13:8-14) and then do so many evils in the process , from trying to kill David (I Samuel 18, I Samuel 19, I Samuel 21, I Samuel 24, I Samuel 26, etc) to killing to Priests of Nob (I Samuel 22-23) and even consulting a witch in I Samuel 28.
Despite all of Saul's foolishness, the Lord had a plan for Him---and even desired that He'd do right...though sadly, things didn't go well as desired. Saul wasn't just elected by the people and then left alone as if the Lord didn't have what seemed to be a back-up plan for how Saul was to govern as King. For the Lord anointed Him to lead--and without His approval, the job wasn't going to get done. ....and later, Saul was rejected---still remaining as King for decades while the Spirit of God left Him. This has happened before where God will use someone, desiring one thing...only to get another and then adapt in kind.
Like the Lord did with Eli at one point, who later died in I Samuel 4:14-19 as apart of God's judgement against his house/the wickedness of his sons in I Samuel 2:12-17
"Why do you kick at My sacrifice and at My offering which I have commanded in My dwelling, and honor your sons above Me, by making yourselves fat with the choicest of every offering of My people Israel? 30Therefore the Lord God of Israel declares, I did indeed say that your house and the house of your father should walk before Me forever; but now the Lord declares, Far be it from Mefor those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me will be lightly esteemed," (1 Sam. 2:29-36).
As one man said, "God is the only Boss who will fire you and let you keep working."
Of course, with that comes the issue of discussing whether or not God either changes His mind at times or is unable to do so. Some scriptures to examine on the issue would be Exodus 32:13-15 , 2 Samuel 24:15-17 and 1 Chronicles 21:14-16 ...as well as Jeremiah 42:9, Amos 7:2-8, and Jonah 3:9-10.
Num. 13:31-Numbers 14 also comes to mind, with God literally promising in Exodus 15:23-25 not to bring the diseases He inflicted on the Egyptians upon the Hebrews if they followed Him......and of course, it happened. But there seems to be no record of God ever saying He'd forsake His people in the wilderness if they did not follow Him. In Numbers 14, for anyone sincerly reading the passage, anyone can honestly see that there is indeed a "cause and effect" here. For in the words they spoke against the Lord---though He originally promised to deliver Him--they actuallly managed to get on God's bad side through their complaining. And in speaking against the Lord, it literally caused God to change His mind about what He had promised--with the effect being that that they never got into the land but died in the wilderness as they said. That's significant whenever it comes to the mentality that all things have been promised by the Lord ahead of time---and with possibilities, it makes even more sense since the Lord promised opposite would occur in their lives if they did certain actions.
In all of this, it goes back to the issue of whether or not its possible for the Holy Spirit of God to outline something----even in aiding others create something, if for a lasting ordinance or just a season---and then look back realizing that it should have been done differently? Within that, is it also possible (consistent with the theme that "God is not a man that He should change His mind") that God may say something/mean it-------only to have other options in mind that were available and yet He did not let His people become aware of it?
Its always a trip when studying the topic of possibilities, mistakes and God's choosing to work with them as He intervenes in History. Its always a wild topic to cover---as it relates to the possibility of God allowing Himself to have His mind changed on certain things...which often seemed to repeat itself throughout the OT. And though it may sound radical, it would seem to be no more of an issue than to say Christ had to be perfected (Hebrews 2:5-18, Hebrews 5:5-10) or having to Grow in Wisdom/Knowledge according to Luke 2:40/Luke 2:52...and Christ being "surprised"/amazed by the faith of the Centurion in Luke 7:9 / Matthew 8:9-11..as well as by what He saw in Nazareth at Mark 6:6.
If we can accept paradoxes such as the Trinity or God Being Eternal and EVERYWHERE all at once, then why is it difficult to accept the concept that perhaps the Lord who knows all can also be surprised/allows Himself to be and have open-ended possibilities on certain matters? Personally, I find that to be highly interesting. When discussing the issue with some of my Messianic Jewsh Friends, I was amazed seeing how much they'd scoff whenever people accuse all aspects of OPEN THEISM as heresy when that was never even the case in the original Hebraic Culture of the Scriptures. Awhile back, if interested, came by a book entitled
"The Jewish Approach to God" by Rabbi Neil Gillman.
Twas intriguing in seeing this rabbi's approach and how it fits right in with an open view (open theism). And in asking what other Messianic Jews felt/whether there were any aspects in Messianic Judaism that're compatible with the thought that the Lord either learns or that He can be surprised/respond in accordance with what others do first, as one Messianic Jewish Brother said:
When OVT keeps in mind the sovereignty of HaShem to do as he wills, there is no heresy. That HaShem allows us to make mistakes, but neither is it his will for us to sin, is true.