Cancer Cure Documentary

hmmm i guess i would talk to some people that i highly respect for their work helping people get rid of diagnoses through health lifestyle practices (for 20 and 30 years) and see what they suggest--don bennett of health101dotorg or doug graham of foodnsportdotorg. don bennett is an excellent independent thinker and researcher and goes to the medical journals and critically examines the stuff that is published. he has some excellent articles on his site of stuff he has researched thoroughly. if he didn't have an article i would ask him directly.

i would look into options such as hippocrates health institute, true north, etc if necessary.

i honestly am not well-informed about melanoma so my response would be to get well-informed (but not going to do that at this moment). i do know vitamin D plays a huge role in cancer prevention and i believe sunlight is also extremely helpful once skin cancer is diagnosed (ironically), covering the problem spot.
burning is problematic, as is having toxins on the skin that interact with the sunlight, from diet and like chlorine and stuff...so i would avoid those.

tashaleeministry said:

hmmm i guess i would talk to some people that i highly respect for their work helping people get rid of diagnoses through health lifestyle practices (for 20 and 30 years) and see what they suggest--don bennett of health101dotorg or doug graham of foodnsportdotorg. don bennett is an excellent independent thinker and researcher and goes to the medical journals and critically examines the stuff that is published. he has some excellent articles on his site of stuff he has researched thoroughly. if he didn't have an article i would ask him directly.

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Bennett is a snake-oil salesman and a fraud.

tashaleeministry said:

i honestly am not well-informed about melanoma so my response would be to get well-informed (but not going to do that at this moment). i do know vitamin D plays a huge role in cancer prevention and i believe sunlight is also extremely helpful once skin cancer is diagnosed (ironically), covering the problem spot.
burning is problematic, as is having toxins on the skin that interact with the sunlight, from diet and like chlorine and stuff...so i would avoid those.

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Time for you to read up on Vitamin D:
Vitamin D and Cancer Prevention - National Cancer Institute

I find it quite interesting that you "believe" sun exposure will help if you have a melanoma. Got any data for that? Do you "believe" it substitutes for seeing an actual doctor for the matter?

If you get a lot of moles, you must see a dermatologist routinely if you don't want to get malignant melanoma. When caught early, melanomas are benign and can be chopped off and it won't return. When caught late, it can spread to your brain and other organs and kill you. In the case of melanoma, screening is prevention. There is no magical concoction of supplements that will prevent it, despite what Bennett and other alt med people will try to tell you (conveniently they have all the products they suggest in their online store!)

I would also love to hear about these "toxins" that cause so much disease. So much talk about these "toxins" yet no one has isolated them...interesting...

if you check into it, you cannot actually purchase the supplements from Don's website. he gives information about the supplements and the link to where they can be purchased, but you need to purchase them from a dealer. if you contact the site from Don's website, the company itself will assign you a dealer. he went to work for the company after doing research and finding them the best so that he could see behind the scenes how the supplements were made. he was looking for a supplement that he would take. all of his research has been to find for himself the healthiest way to live. he has reversed his own diagnoses and now shares what he has learned with others. this is common in the raw vegan world...people are amazed at what they never knew about the fact the diagnoses can be reversed, and they want to help others learn and get healthy too. have you read don bennett's articles and books? it is not right to label someone with those names if they don't deserve it. there are definitely plenty of people that use "raw food" as a way to make money, teaching things that will require you buy their supplements. don bennett sells his books and teaches classes...he lives very simply so that he can do what he loves to do (teach people how to create health and avoid disease), which does not make a lot of money. he practices what he preaches. he is the picture of health.
have you actually read his articles? please read them and then go to the source of the studies and see if you still think he is a fraud.
for instance, read his article on vitamin D and cancer prevention.
to hear about toxins, read "the china study" or watch "forks over knives" if you are not a reader. call them by a different name if you will...cooking damages the things we eat and the body can't recognize the amino acids and reacts to them as invaders, etc, if you want more technical terminology. that is only one of many ways the things we eat do not do well in our body. too much junk and the body can't get rid of it fast enough, it stores it around the body in fat or in organs and causes problems.
i went to a dermatologist last year to get my moles checked. my friend (who eats healthy like me but hasn't for her whole life and has gotten sunburned more than she should) went last year and had one that was cancerous and got it removed. not saying it is a bad thing to see a doctor. i visit my diabetes doctor regularly. however, i don't treat what they say as God. they are not God, and just as Christians are encouraged to test what people say against the Scripture instead of just blindly accepting whatever they hear, i do the same with what i hear at the doctor's office. the doctors i have seen in my lifetime do not look healthy to me. don bennett looks like superman compared to them! he didn't used to be. if someone has knowledge and experience with getting healthy and helping other people get healthy, i will do the same with them- listen and test and see. i have read lots of theories and philosophies and tried them for myself, and found that while some people made a good sell and it sounded great, sure didn't work great in my body.
the conclusions my body reached through research and trial and experimentation were the same that don bennett reached. other things that i couldn't fix or explain were helped by applying new knowledge that he offered. i didn't take it blindly but tried it because other things were NOT working for me, and it worked. doug graham also helped with this a lot on the way.
doug graham helps people heal from diseases, cancers, etc by fasting and letting the body heal itself. he supervises fasts. people may get well but if they go back to junky eating they will get the same results. health conditions happen when we don't take care of our bodies. the body vectors toward health and will heal itself--like a scab on a knee--if we give it what it needs- rest, exercise, proper nutrition, sunshine, pure water, etc etc.

healthresearchforum dot org dot uk/reports/sunlightrobbery.pdf --check out that article if you are interested.

also:
“Sunbathing helped heal the skin cancer of Dr. Harland Call. His
skin cancer was diagnosed by two medical doctors, one of whom was
a surgeon who recommended surgical removal. Dr. Call employed
sunbathing of the affected area. Within a short time, the skin cancer
disappeared, after which he reported back to the M.D. who had
recommended surgical removal. When the local doctor examined him,
it was confirmed that the skin cancer was gone.
Cancer is helped by sunbathing, says Dr. Zane R. Kime. Kime
writes that those who get more sunlight have less cancer. Sunbathing
helps heal cancer by building up the immune system, and increasing
oxygen in the tissues. Sunlight does not cause skin cancer. Healthy
people do not get skin cancer. Repeated sunburning, not suntanning,
causes skin cancer, writes Dr. Michael Gray. Chronic sunburn combines with free radicals to cause skin cancer. Free radicals, dietary
fat, cholesterol, and deranged antioxidants from cooked foods can
cause skin cancer. Cooked foods have had their antioxidants,
particularly vitamins C and E, reduced or deranged by cooking.”

from Mike Adams: “If it seems surprising to you
that the American Cancer Society – which claims to be against cancer
– would dissuade people from taking supplements that could slash
their cancer risk by 77% (vitamin D), then you’ve got much to learn
about the ACS. In my opinion the ACS is an organization that
prevents prevention and thus supports the continuation of cancer. It’s
the wealthiest non-profit in America and has very close ties to
pharmaceutical companies, mammography equipment companies,
and other corporations that profit from cancer. The idea that the
cancer industry could lose 80% of its patients due to widespread
education about vitamin D and sunlight scares the living daylights out
of the cancer industry.”
See preventcancer dot com/losing/acs dot htm for more info on that...

wow this discussion is taking a lot of time that i really should be spending doing other things! i think i am done. feel free to check out don and doug's sites and educational books for any further questions you have.

I'll pass.
Antineoplaston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Clinical trials said:

Burzynski has published several trials claiming effectiveness for antineoplastons, although reviewers have criticized these trials as being "of a rather unclear design,"[9] and the National Cancer Institute reports that no randomized, controlled trials showing the effectiveness of antineoplastons have been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals[17]. Independent researchers have failed to reproduce the benefits reported by Burzynski.[7] A 1999 trial of antineoplastons for malignant glioma found no evidence of tumor responses or efficacy, and all nine patients died before the study closed, all but one death being due to tumor progression.[9][18]

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Sunbathing causes skin cancer, it doesn't cure it.

I am interested in your claim that your raw food diet improves your immune system. Which part, exactly? innate? Adaptive? Does it drive Th2 over 1.7 or 1 responses? Does it upregulate specific TLR responses? Perhaps it replolarizes tumor associated macrophages.

Please, do let us know.

I am thinking about giving up the study of cracking immuno tolerance in the tumor microenvironment, and just telling everyone to go eat an apple.

tashaleeministry said:

healthresearchforum dot org dot uk/reports/sunlightrobbery.pdf --check out that article if you are interested.

also:
“Sunbathing helped heal the skin cancer of Dr. Harland Call. His
skin cancer was diagnosed by two medical doctors, one of whom was
a surgeon who recommended surgical removal. Dr. Call employed
sunbathing of the affected area. Within a short time, the skin cancer
disappeared, after which he reported back to the M.D. who had
recommended surgical removal. When the local doctor examined him,
it was confirmed that the skin cancer was gone.
Cancer is helped by sunbathing, says Dr. Zane R. Kime. Kime
writes that those who get more sunlight have less cancer. Sunbathing
helps heal cancer by building up the immune system, and increasing
oxygen in the tissues. Sunlight does not cause skin cancer. Healthy
people do not get skin cancer. Repeated sunburning, not suntanning,
causes skin cancer, writes Dr. Michael Gray. Chronic sunburn combines with free radicals to cause skin cancer. Free radicals, dietary
fat, cholesterol, and deranged antioxidants from cooked foods can
cause skin cancer. Cooked foods have had their antioxidants,
particularly vitamins C and E, reduced or deranged by cooking.”

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I think you may be confusing exceptions with rules. Giving examples of one or two amazing cures and trying to say that it trumps 10's of thousands of medical reports is sorta odd, don't ya think? If what you are trying to show is proof that your ideas are the correct ones, why do you choose to go with the extremely small sample set of medical opinions rather than the huge majority of medical opinions?

Would you try to prove that your Hummer gets better MPG than your neighbor's Prius? I'm sure you can search the web and find people who say their Hummer gets 45MPG, but because most people understand how MPG is derived, few people will believe these reports. Just because most of us don't understand the mechanics of cancer development doesn't mean that their aren't thousands of scientists who understand it completely.

If the vast majority of the medical community says one thing, who are we to doubt them? Additonally, these altmed quacks can't even agree with each other. They all have their own idea of how to fight cancer. Wouldn't it make sense that they would join together and come up with a unified theory? They don't because not one of them can prove their assumptions.

tashaleeministry said:

i honestly am not well-informed about melanoma so my response would be to get well-informed (but not going to do that at this moment). i do know vitamin D plays a huge role in cancer prevention and i believe sunlight is also extremely helpful once skin cancer is diagnosed (ironically), covering the problem spot.
burning is problematic, as is having toxins on the skin that interact with the sunlight, from diet and like chlorine and stuff...so i would avoid those.

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Realizing that you respect the one off examples of "healing", this should be right up your alley.
You will surely want sunscreen after seeing this man's face


So which side do you think is healthiest?

That's a pretty stark contrast.

tashaleeministry said:

i would suggest that it could be dangerous to blindly follow what doctors suggest, rather than do some independent research. i have heard multiple "anecdotes" of people who have died due to chemotherapy killing their good cells along with the bad cells, too. doctors have been trained by the medical profession, yet there are things that are not included in that training about reversing disease. to learn how to do this, one would need to do independent, unbiased research. reversing disease is not an isolated anecdote. most of us just don't know about it yet.

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You can't prove that any of the methods used in those anecdotes have efficacy for the population; a sample size of 1 is absolutely horrible and cannot be used to make any type of statistical correlation. You have to have a large study conducted with a large enough sample size to determine any type of efficacy a particular treatment may have. Medicine is based on evidence of efficacy, not merely through anecdotes.

Hi there
Your positive 'gonna be the Happiest & Healthiest
best child-of-God I can be' attitude is great! Keep it up!!

Saw your stats; (me 110-120, <23%bf)

tashaleeministry said:

re cancer - i would let them make their own decision.

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Freedom of choice is right. But do they have the requisite? awareness.

tashaleeministry said:

i would give them my input.

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But your own personal experimentation,
Up & down & all around, may not at all work for someone else, so then what?

For instances, can you name the 20 Basic things God created all humanity from?
And how do you define 'health'? is your soul+mind+body generally co-operating synergystically for optimal well-being?

tashaleeministry said:

what we eat
determines if it grows, or gets taken care of by the body.

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except that many people, who do know the Optimum-nutrients for them, still of cancering die. - iow
a healthy physical-immune system is only 1/3 of their own personal cancer puzzle.

tashaleeministry said:

i would tell them that cancer takes decades to develop,

we all probably have it

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True, each day we have aging, broken, cancerous, dying cell-parts that our body competently eliminates, and replaces with new undifferentiated & pluripotent stem cells, right.
Given we regenerate on a daily basis, you now know that cancer takes not 'decades' but only a day to develop.
(Not consciously aware of it, does not mean it ain't lurking), but almost all the time you get to continue sane

tashaleeministry said:

i would guess
most people will be very scared with a cancer diagnosis and opt for the chemo and radiation...

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Unfortunately true. - 4 in my family died.
Not from their cancering processes either, tho plenty weakened from that. But
what killed them in short order, were world war chemical poisons. 100% successful.

tashaleeministry said:

but i do know people
who have opted instead to do a supervised fast (cancer hangs out in fat cells)

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except when the cancer 'hangs out' in the other 2 parts of humans

tashaleeministry said:

or heal from cancer by juicing and alternative health therapies.)

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Sure millions have & do. But - why face umpteen remissions, with soul or mind going 'hey,
I've got wayyy more destructive resources, than you have either $$$ or insurance';
when it is much preferred to uncover the ROOT-causes , & those issues heal

sk8Joyful said:

Hi there
Your positive 'gonna be the Happiest & Healthiest
best child-of-God I can be' attitude is great! Keep it up!!

Saw your stats; (me 110-120, <23%bf)


Freedom of choice is right. But do they have the requisite? awareness.


But your own personal experimentation,
Up & down & all around, may not at all work for someone else, so then what?

For instances, can you name the 20 Basic things God created all humanity from?
And how do you define 'health'? is your soul+mind+body generally co-operating synergystically for optimal well-being?


except that many people, who do know the Optimum-nutrients for them, still of cancering die. - iow
a healthy physical-immune system is only 1/3 of their own personal cancer puzzle.


True, each day we have aging, broken, cancerous, dying cell-parts that our body competently eliminates, and replaces with new undifferentiated & pluripotent stem cells, right.
Given we regenerate on a daily basis, you now know that cancer takes not 'decades' but only a day to develop.
(Not consciously aware of it, does not mean it ain't lurking), but almost all the time you get to continue sane


Unfortunately true. - 4 in my family died.
Not from their cancering processes either, tho plenty weakened from that. But
what killed them in short order, were world war chemical poisons. 100% successful.


except when the cancer 'hangs out' in the other 2 parts of humans

Sure millions have & do. But - why face umpteen remissions, with soul or mind going 'hey,
I've got wayyy more destructive resources, than you have either $$$ or insurance';
when it is much preferred to uncover the ROOT-causes , & those issues heal

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What sort of treatment options would you give to someone with:
1) subarachnoid hemorrhage
2) sepsis
3) meningitis
4) appendicitis
5) septic arthritis

Lion Hearted Man said:

What sort of treatment options
would you give to someone with:
1) subarachnoid hemorrhage
2) sepsis
3) meningitis
4) appendicitis
5) septic arthritis

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wrong thread. This addressed cancering/chronic conditions.

Start a thread for emergencies.

sk8Joyful said:

wrong thread. This addressed cancering/chronic conditions.

Start a thread for emergencies.

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I'm just curious. This thread has been dead for some time, I don't think anyone would mind this tangent.

You're claiming that modern medicine is fundamentally flawed -- is it flawed in relation to the diseases I listed? Or do you give modern medicine the okay when in "emergency" situations?

Lion Hearted Man said:

I'm just curious. This thread has been dead for some time,

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This thread was just posted in two weeks ago, not at all dead.

And the terrible medical proclivity to Declare something dead,
when they are NOT, as done to live people by medicine daily, was just demonstrated again here.

Lion Hearted Man said:

I don't think
anyone would mind this tangent.

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Unless you asked the OP, how could you know?

Lion Hearted Man said:

You're claiming
that modern medicine is fundamentally flawed

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Where did I write those words: "modern medicine is fundamentally flawed"

sk8Joyful said:

This thread was just posted in two weeks ago, not at all dead.

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In a more lively forum, this thread would've passed rigor mortis.

And the terrible medical proclivity to Declare something dead,
when they are NOT, as done to live people by medicine daily, was just demonstrated again here.

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There is a difference between a medical declaration of death and a metaphorical one - you seem to have confused them.

Unless you asked the OP, how could you know?

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The OP hasn't participated in the thread beyond the initial post two months ago. I agree that it's a fair assumption.

Where did I write those words: "modern medicine is fundamentally flawed"

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Paraphrased.

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Documentary
on Stanislaw R. Burzynski's revolutionary cancer cure treatment
based on his discovery on the mechanics of cancer, which lead him to the creation of the Antineoplaston Therapy.

Dr. Burzynski's Therapy has successfully cured thousands of terminal cancer patients for the last 30 years and has demonstrated to be 3 to 5 times more effective than the conventional chemotherapy and radiation treatments.

In spite of the success of his therapy, he has faced the prosecution of big pharma and the FDA which has tried to stop his therapy from spreading in the United States.

Cancer Cure Documentary - Dr. Burzynski Antineoplaston Therapy - YouTube

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It's over an hour, watch the first 3 minutes...

This thread was taken intentionally OFF topic, putting it back on track...